**** April's Micro MTT Thread ****

[Debi]

Just to prove I am not scared of bubbling since I was literally on the bubble - we went in hand to hand mode after I called with all of my dinky stack:

pokerstars Game #26908514365: Tournament #153492855, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (350/700) - 2009/04/09 16:49:30 ET
Table '153492855 318' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Robson Silva (37072 in chips)
Seat 2: Haikana (6680 in chips)
Seat 3: dakota-xx (1670 in chips)
Seat 4: leglessdog (9452 in chips)
Seat 5: tricasse sc (11449 in chips)
Seat 6: snapper23 (14847 in chips)
Seat 7: wowa99 (28597 in chips)
Seat 8: spatz99 (18729 in chips)
Seat 9: Donny_boy45 (18407 in chips)
Robson Silva: posts the ante 85
Haikana: posts the ante 85
dakota-xx: posts the ante 85
leglessdog: posts the ante 85
tricasse sc: posts the ante 85
snapper23: posts the ante 85
wowa99: posts the ante 85
spatz99: posts the ante 85
Donny_boy45: posts the ante 85
tricasse sc: posts small blind 350
snapper23: posts big blind 700
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to dakota-xx [9s 9h]
wowa99: folds
spatz99: raises 2100 to 2800
Donny_boy45: folds
Robson Silva: folds
Haikana: folds
dakota-xx: calls 1585 and is all-in
leglessdog: folds
tricasse sc: calls 2450
snapper23: folds
*** FLOP *** [8c 7d 2d]
tricasse sc: bets 700
spatz99: calls 700
*** TURN *** [8c 7d 2d] [Js]
tricasse sc: bets 700
spatz99: calls 700
*** RIVER *** [8c 7d 2d Js] [Tc]
tricasse sc: checks
spatz99: bets 2800
tricasse sc: folds
Uncalled bet (2800) returned to spatz99
*** SHOW DOWN ***
spatz99: shows [Kh Qc] (high card King)
spatz99 collected 5230 from side pot
dakota-xx: shows [9s 9h] (a straight, Seven to Jack)
dakota-xx collected 6220 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 11450 Main pot 6220. Side pot 5230. | Rake 0
Board [8c 7d 2d Js Tc]
Seat 1: Robson Silva folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Haikana folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: dakota-xx showed [9s 9h] and won (6220) with a straight, Seven to Jack
Seat 4: leglessdog (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: tricasse sc (small blind) folded on the River
Seat 6: snapper23 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: wowa99 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: spatz99 showed [Kh Qc] and won (5230) with high card King
Seat 9: Donny_boy45 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

 

[Irexes]

mmm, why?u got it in good but i cant see how u get value from ur hand if u do this

I don't know if it's peel's rationale but I love the shove there.

It screams low mid pair or bluff and at low levels is getting called by most ovepairs "OMG I HAS OVERPAIR CALL!!". don't want to be shoving QQ to a check on many flops when that stacked, but there it's not a bad variation to have, your not getting much value out of draws or AK-AJ hands anyway.

 

[orangepeeleo]

exactly, the 2 guys in the blinds would've called with anything from 22- Ace high lol they didnt have a scoobies how to play 6max and were totally overadjusting, as his call with T5s and subsequent call with his 5's shows, i think a shove here would scream of 2 high cards that have missed the flop and would be called v.wide by bad players like those 2

 

[Debi]

BTW, dakota I've been railing your mtt that you are playing now and think I have found a leak....Your stack is getting smaller and smaller and when I'm not watching I go back and look in the hand replayer what you did OTB and in CO situations....and you never steal

I think at this point you should start to open up your range OTB and on the CO pos only and atleast try to keep your stack at a nice level

Also what a lot of people don;t realize is that stealing helps in so many ways other tha taking blinds here and there. Once you do get a monster OTB and on the CO, many give you no credit and you usually get paid a lot more then you would if youd be tight..since many will know you have a good hand

True about the stealing being important for metagame reasons. Only caveat would be that for certain stack sizes it can sometimes be inapropriate to steal unless you intend to get your whole stack in (which I guess isn't really a steal). Against decent opponents it is also easy for them to make a pretty decent assessment of their equity and risk when they reraise you. If they have a decent stack they also know they have a relatively small maximum liability.

For example you have 12-15BBs and QTo in th Cut off. If you raise to steal are you really calling a shove? If you are folding then for a start it doesn't really matter what your hole cards are, but more importantly assuming you raised to 3bbs if you are folding you now have 9-12bbs and are in push or fold mode.

Of course there are plenty of situations (villain, card and own image dependant) where it's appropriate to be stealing with a stack in the 12-15bb zone, but sometimes the stack size dicates that it's better to take your chance waiting for a better opportunity to double up basedon the strength of your hand and get back to relative comfort 24-30bbs than to risk entering the real danger territory of <10bbs because of a marginal steal when the best situation is moving to 15-18bbs and you are still in the same area stacksize.

Not disagreeing with your post KC as it's important but I see people forcing the issue in the mid-portion of tourney with stacks that don't allow it when perhaps the better % play is to be patient.


(talking to debi again due to excellent AA shove)

Oops - missed this.

It really isn't a good game to judge that KC - I usually steal loads more from co and button than you would have seen today. But I don't do it with ATC - and I am particularly picky when my chip stack gets too small due to what Rex is saying above.

After that AA hand early in the game I rarely got anything at all to play. I had a pocket pair 5 times I think in that entire tournament and won 3 times. I think I folded a 44 from UTG and folded 66 with a raise in front of me. I had AK once - every other hand was total crap lol. I played a few of them here and there but I was very card dead today.

But my stealing really does depend on my chip stack. I am not saying I might not have missed a couple of opportunities - you need to sweat me sometime to help out with that. But it may not have been as bad as it looked lol.

 

[KingCurtis]

I think i totally forgot about you possibly being card, and I also think i didnt watch long enough...kind jumped to conclusions.

@ rex: yeah i think when i talk about it, I make it seem like you should steal all the time and ATC, and I am really tight at times too. I think I just steal with ATC when I have good reads. I also know I have to have a leak somewhere, so everything I say isn;t correct...I am no expert

 

[Irexes]

I think i totally forgot about you possibly being card, and I also think i didnt watch long enough...kind jumped to conclusions.

@ rex: yeah i think when i talk about it, I make it seem like you should steal all the time and ATC, and I am really tight at times too. I think I just steal with ATC when I have good reads. I also know I have to have a leak somewhere, so everything I say isn;t correct...I am no expert

Me neither, there's so much about MTTs that is context dependant that it's so hard to make hard and fast rules about anything. The more I play Ring and MTT the more I think that compared to the (almost) Science of ring, MTTs are more Art.

And I'm regularly wrong about stuff fwiw

 

[Debi]

It's great to have this thread to talk this stuff out - it is an added level of support and inspires me to concentrate more and pay attention to the players at my table. Cause I know you guys are gonna ask me for details if I get stuck and want to talk about it lol.

 

[KingCurtis]

It's great to have this thread to talk this stuff out - it is an added level of support and inspires me to concentrate more and pay attention to the players at my table. Cause I know you guys are gonna ask me for details if I get stuck and want to talk about it lol.

+1

This has made me want to learn everything possible lol. If we don't get a 1k plus cash out of this group this month I'll be dissapointed

 

[pantin007]

+1

This has made me want to learn everything possible lol. If we don't get a 1k plus cash out of this group this month I'll be dissapointed

1K cash and a few wins imo. 6 more days till i can come back

 

[KingCurtis]

Same Villian twice in a row.....dream back to backs!


PokerStars Game #26916045341: Tournament #153493223, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (20/40) - 2009/04/09 20:43:56 ET
Table '153493223 31' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: boomerang420 (4720 in chips)
Seat 3: franck8888 (10170 in chips)
Seat 4: 7 ElSeb 7 (2949 in chips)
Seat 5: KingCurtis67 (2735 in chips)
Seat 6: cupcakes.com (4385 in chips)
Seat 7: Magicmuff (12190 in chips)
Seat 8: hondacr659 (6025 in chips)
Seat 9: St3pbySt3p (4606 in chips)
Magicmuff: posts small blind 20
hondacr659: posts big blind 40
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to KingCurtis67 [As Ac]
St3pbySt3p: folds
boomerang420: calls 40
Magicmuff said, "motorcross.lol"
fizzy10 is connected
franck8888: calls 40
Magicmuff said, "crash and burn"
7 ElSeb 7: calls 40
KingCurtis67: raises 260 to 300
cupcakes.com: folds
Magicmuff: raises 3580 to 3880
hondacr659: folds
boomerang420: folds
franck8888: folds
7 ElSeb 7: folds
KingCurtis67: calls 2435 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (1145) returned to Magicmuff
*** FLOP *** [7c 9h Kh]
*** TURN *** [7c 9h Kh] [9d]
*** RIVER *** [7c 9h Kh 9d] [4h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Magicmuff: shows [Qs Jc] (a pair of Nines)
KingCurtis67: shows [As Ac] (two pair, Aces and Nines)
KingCurtis67 collected 5630 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5630 | Rake 0
Board [7c 9h Kh 9d 4h]
Seat 2: boomerang420 folded before Flop
Seat 3: franck8888 folded before Flop
Seat 4: 7 ElSeb 7 folded before Flop
Seat 5: KingCurtis67 showed [As Ac] and won (5630) with two pair, Aces and Nines
Seat 6: cupcakes.com (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Magicmuff (small blind) showed [Qs Jc] and lost with a pair of Nines
Seat 8: hondacr659 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: St3pbySt3p folded before Flop (didn't bet)







PokerStars Game #26916074774: Tournament #153493223, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (20/40) - 2009/04/09 20:44:56 ET
Table '153493223 31' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: fizzy10 (7165 in chips)
Seat 2: boomerang420 (4680 in chips)
Seat 3: franck8888 (10130 in chips)
Seat 4: 7 ElSeb 7 (2909 in chips)
Seat 5: KingCurtis67 (5630 in chips)
Seat 6: cupcakes.com (4385 in chips)
Seat 7: Magicmuff (9455 in chips)
Seat 8: hondacr659 (5985 in chips)
Seat 9: St3pbySt3p (4606 in chips)
hondacr659: posts small blind 20
St3pbySt3p: posts big blind 40
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to KingCurtis67 [As Ac]
fizzy10: folds
boomerang420: folds
franck8888: folds
7 ElSeb 7: folds
KingCurtis67: raises 160 to 200
cupcakes.com: folds
Magicmuff: raises 9255 to 9455 and is all-in
hondacr659: folds
St3pbySt3p: folds
KingCurtis67: calls 5430 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (3825) returned to Magicmuff
*** FLOP *** [6h 6c 2s]
Magicmuff said, "lol"
*** TURN *** [6h 6c 2s] [8d]
*** RIVER *** [6h 6c 2s 8d] [5h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
KingCurtis67: shows [As Ac] (two pair, Aces and Sixes)
Magicmuff: shows [Qd Th] (a pair of Sixes)
KingCurtis67 collected 11320 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 11320 | Rake 0
Board [6h 6c 2s 8d 5h]
Seat 1: fizzy10 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: boomerang420 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: franck8888 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: 7 ElSeb 7 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: KingCurtis67 showed [As Ac] and won (11320) with two pair, Aces and Sixes
Seat 6: cupcakes.com folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Magicmuff (button) showed [Qd Th] and lost with a pair of Sixes
Seat 8: hondacr659 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: St3pbySt3p (big blind) folded before Flop

 

[eNTy]

Lol at magicmuff hating his life now.

 

[Jillychemung]

LOL at getting 8-1 to see the flop and then getting crushed!!

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HAND 1
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120/240 blinds, 25 ante No Limit Hold'em Tourney, 9 Players
Poker Tools by Stoxpoker

Hero (BB): 4,290 (17.9 bb)
UTG+1: 13,230 (55.1 bb)
UTG+2: 4,440 (18.5 bb)
MP1: 4,375 (18.2 bb)
MP2: 12,075 (50.3 bb)
MP3: 14,629 (61 bb)
CO: 11,760 (49 bb)
BTN: 9,285 (38.7 bb)
SB: 13,605 (56.7 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BB with 2

2

UTG+1 raises to 490, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls 490, MP2 calls 490, 4 folds, BB calls 250

Flop: (3,160) J

3

2

(4 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets 1,190, MP1 folds, MP2 raises to 2,380, BB raises to 3,775 and is all-in, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls 1,395

Turn: (11,900) Q

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: (11,900) 8

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: 11,900 pot (855 rake)
BB showed 2

2

(three of a kind, Twos) and lost (-4,385 net)
MP2 showed J

J

(three of a kind, Jacks) and won 11,045 (6,660 net)

 

[KingCurtis]

sigh, coolers Jilly

In other news.....SNAP CALL FIST PUMP(open shoves into your Aces..is teh best)

Stacks:
SB with 24080
BB with 22594
UTG with 27279
UTG+1 with 56828
MP1 with 18443
MP2 with 25265
MP3 with 34359
CO with 34515
BTN with 50748

Blinds: 500/1000
Site: Pokerstars
Dealt to BB:A♦ A♣
Sklansky group 1
Preflop:
1 players fold.
UTG+1 calls [1000]
2 players fold.
MP3 calls [1000]
CO raises 33415 to 34415 [ all-in ]
2 players fold.
Hero calls [21494] [ all-in ]
2 players fold.
Uncalled bet (11921) returned to CO
Total folds this street: 7
Potsize: 59409
Flop:
9♠ 6♠ 4♠
Potsize: 59409
Turn:
5♠
Potsize: 59409
River:
8♦
Results:
Hero shows a pair of Aces:
A♦ A♣
CO shows high card Ace:
A♥ K♥
Hero collected 48388 from pot

 

[pantin007]

standard raise to 34bb

pretty sick cooler jilly

 

[KingCurtis]

Sigh, Was so patient here at the end of this and finally after what seemed like a million 42 os and K4 os I finally shoved 99 with 200k and AJ hits an Ace. O well as loong as I keep playing well and running deep, when i win this flip next time I'm going farther...same old same old lol...

81/4680 isn't bad though

 

[KingCurtis]

Playing all the afternoon games today! Let's take one down for CC!
Bluff, steal, win, suck out, whatever you have to do to win! I'm think later tonight we can get some sweats set up so I'll PM some peeps this evening.

*my shot at motivational typing?

 

[pantin007]

Playing all the afternoon games today! Let's take one down for CC!
Bluff, steal, win, suck out, whatever you have to do to win! I'm think later tonight we can get some sweats set up so I'll PM some peeps this evening.

*my shot at motivational typing?

motivated to play, but cant play

 

[KingCurtis]

motivated to play, but cant play

all in good time

btw 1k+ cash tonight for this group or 100 push ups and/or 5 miles running! MTT BOOT CAMP yo!

 

[eNTy]

I'm playing a 40 euro live mtt tomorrow.

hello

 

[pantin007]

I'm playing a 40 euro live mtt tomorrow.

hello

the same home game?, what is the structure like?

 

[KingCurtis]

I'm playing a 40 euro live mtt tomorrow.

hello

gl wish i could come and play

plane ticket and hotel would be -EV though for such a low buyin

 

[KingCurtis]

out of 2 mtts already..not going well so far, but im not giving up that easy!

 

[Debi]

Missed the 30k today so will play the 15k at 3:15. Will post some hands if I have any tough ones!

 

[KingCurtis]

Missed the 30k today so will play the 15k at 3:15. Will post some hands if I have any tough ones!

I'm in both glglglglgllglglglgl

 

[KingCurtis]

nothing going today, a lot of me flopping TPTK and villian flopping set...o well it happens, I'll play later tonight when all the drunk fish are playing