**** April's Micro MTT Thread ****

[Debi]

ok cool, if u want to do it, just hit me up on msn

Okay will do. I usually play the $11 double stack games - like the 30k guaranteed at 2pm - if I miss that I play the 3:15 game. I will sometimes play the $22 game (at noon I think). If I am doing really well I treat myself to the $55 80k. That won't be this week lol.

All of those games are at pokerstars. But I might start trying to find some at Full Tilt since my bankroll there is twice as big as Pokerstars. I just hate their tournament lobby. I did find a $24 double stack game at 6pm and played it last night. I felt like I was playing in a foreign country - I am just so much more comfortable at Pokerstars.

Oh and I don't have HUD for tournaments because I have HEM now. I had a paid for PT2 account but it is not installed on this computer and trying to get my registration codes from them was a pain in the ass.

 

[KingCurtis]

Dakota TBH i wouldn't worry too much about a HUD, although it helps, they are not as useful as they are for cash games.

If you would like I could easily watch you with TV at that stage you are struggling, OR you could watch me and take notes? The thing is most of my deep runs are always pretty late unless it's the weekend or on wed. when I start early. I think the best thing I could do is just look to see if you are on and shoot you a quick PM asking if you have time to watch since at that point I would be getting close to ITM....

Also this is not just for Dakota...ANYONE else who wants to do sweats for parts of mtts or the whole thing, I'm down

 

[pantin007]

Also this is not just for Dakota...ANYONE else who wants to do sweats for parts of mtts or the whole thing, I'm down

+1 for me, lets get some sweats going ITT

 

[KingCurtis]

Here are to interesting hands early in the 11$ 30k last night.

Stacks:
MP3 with 3280
CO with 2880
BTN with 2920
SB with 3060
BB with 2890
UTG with 2860
UTG+1 with 3160
MP1 with 3000
MP2 with 2950

Blinds: 10/20
Site: Pokerstars
Dealt to UTG+1:J♠ J♦
Sklansky group 1
Preflop:
1 players fold.
UTG+1 raises 80 to 100
1 players fold.
MP2 calls [100]
3 players fold.
SB calls [90]
BB calls [80]
Total folds this street: 5
Potsize: 400
Flop:
10♠ Q♣ 8♠
SB: checks
BB bets [80]
UTG+1 calls [80]
2 players folded.
Total folds this street: 2
Potsize: 560
Turn:
A♣
BB: checks
UTG+1 bets [340]
3 players fold.
Uncalled bet (340) returned to UTG+1
UTG+1 collected 560 from pot
UTG+1: doesn't show hand
Total folds this street: 1

I like my PF bet here but didn't like 3 flats behind it. I think on the flop, since the guy bet 80 in to a 400 chip pot, I should have reraised instead of called, because his check/fold on the turn was a clear sign of his weakness.


Stacks:
UTG with 4410
UTG+1 with 2880
MP1 with 2730
MP2 with 2960
MP3 with 2700
CO with 2080
BTN with 3510
SB with 2980
BB with 2750

Blinds: 10/20
Site: Pokerstars
Dealt to BTN:A♣ K♥
Sklansky group 2
Preflop:
2 players fold.
MP1 raises 100 to 120
1 players fold.
MP3 calls [120]
1 players fold.
Hero raises 460 to 580
2 players fold.
MP1 raises 2150 to 2730 [ all-in ]
1 players fold.
Hero calls [2150]
Total folds this street: 7
Potsize: 5610
Flop:
4♥ Q♦ 5♥
Potsize: 5610
Turn:
7♥
Potsize: 5610
River:
9♠
Results:
MP1 shows a pair of Eights:
8♣ 8♠
Hero shows high card Ace:
A♣ K♥
MP1 collected 5610 from pot

FWIW this early in the mtt, I want to take flips to build a big stack in order to dominate later. Many say to play tight since you have so many BBs and you don;t have to risk your life on a 50/50 situation, but that's not how i set myself up later...I'm not looking to blind out or just min cash, I"M GOING FOR 1ST!

As for the 4 bet shove, I think my call was a little loose...FWIW he was a gold star also so maybe some credit for AK+ was needed but it was early...any thoughts?

 

[Debi]

If you would like I could easily watch you with TV at that stage you are struggling, OR you could watch me and take notes? The thing is most of my deep runs are always pretty late unless it's the weekend or on wed. when I start early. I think the best thing I could do is just look to see if you are on and shoot you a quick PM asking if you have time to watch since at that point I would be getting close to ITM....

That would be great Curtis. Yea -if you get to that stage and see me online let me know. And if you are around any afternoons when I would be likely to be playing check with me and see if you can watch me.

 

[pantin007]

well i like ur 3 bet but i probably fold to the 4 bet, i dont have a problem with wanting to flip early but in this situation where most ppl are playing hella tight, i think ur up against a much bigger hand most of the time

 

[KingCurtis]

Here is a hand in the middle of the tourney. Blinds are 200/400.

Stacks:
MP1 with 9420
MP2 with 10161
MP3 with 19235
CO with 9775
BTN with 5773
SB with 11450
BB with 23653
UTG with 7356
UTG+1 with 10300

Blinds: 200/400
Site: Pokerstars
Dealt to BB:9♣ 7♥
Preflop:
4 players fold.
MP3 raises 400 to 800
2 players fold.
SB calls [600]
Hero calls [400]
Total folds this street: 6
Potsize: 2400
Flop:
5♠ 8♥ 10♠
SB: checks
Hero: checks
MP3 bets [2000]
1 players fold.
Hero calls [2000]
Total folds this street: 1
Potsize: 6400
Turn:
6♥
Hero bets [20803] [ all-in ]
1 players fold.
Uncalled bet (20803) returned to Hero
Hero collected 6850 from pot Hero: doesn't show hand
Total folds this street: 1

OK, as you can see a guy in MP min raises and i am in he BB and call. Some may think my call is bad..tbh I think it is justifiable due to the fact that I had a big stack+it was only a min raise . I'm OOP but i think i can/know out play this guy.

As for the flop call, he made a good bet but with both our stacks and the open ended I'm looking to hit and bank off of his overpair(at least thats what my read was).

I was really upset after i made my bet on the turn, I think I got a little anxious and just thought my read of his over pairs was right and he'd call and i'd fist pump all the way to stacking town. BUT i think the right line was to check and let his AK/AQ maybe even low PP bluff at it one more time...? Any suggestions/thoughts?

 

[KingCurtis]

well i like ur 3 bet but i probably fold to the 4 bet, i dont have a problem with wanting to flip early but in this situation where most ppl are playing hella tight, i think ur up against a much bigger hand most of the time

exaclty which is why I was suprised he had 88..i think int he 20$< BIs players can do this a lot with AK< -99< but with him being a supposed solid reg/player I could have easily made this laydown.

 

[pantin007]

Here is a hand in the middle of the tourney. Blinds are 200/400.

Stacks:
MP1 with 9420
MP2 with 10161
MP3 with 19235
CO with 9775
BTN with 5773
SB with 11450
BB with 23653
UTG with 7356
UTG+1 with 10300

Blinds: 200/400
Site: Pokerstars
Dealt to BB:9♣ 7♥
Preflop:
4 players fold.
MP3 raises 400 to 800
2 players fold.
SB calls [600]
Hero calls [400]
Total folds this street: 6
Potsize: 2400
Flop:
5♠ 8♥ 10♠
SB: checks
Hero: checks
MP3 bets [2000]
1 players fold.
Hero calls [2000]
Total folds this street: 1
Potsize: 6400
Turn:
6♥
Hero bets [20803] [ all-in ]
1 players fold.
Uncalled bet (20803) returned to Hero
Hero collected 6850 from pot Hero: doesn't show hand
Total folds this street: 1

OK, as you can see a guy in MP min raises and i am in he BB and call. Some may think my call is bad..tbh I think it is justifiable due to the fact that I had a big stack+it was only a min raise . I'm OOP but i think i can/know out play this guy.

As for the flop call, he made a good bet but with both our stacks and the open ended I'm looking to hit and bank off of his overpair(at least thats what my read was).

I was really upset after i made my bet on the turn, I think I got a little anxious and just thought my read of his over pairs was right and he'd call and i'd fist pump all the way to stacking town. BUT i think the right line was to check and let his AK/AQ maybe even low PP bluff at it one more time...? Any suggestions/thoughts?

i dont think i have a problem with the shove on the river, most ppl dont react to them well and ull probably get value from his overpairs whereas if u c/r all in i think he may well fold those overs.

was he prone to triple barrelling tho?

 

[KingCurtis]

was he prone to triple barrelling tho?

Tbh, I can't remember, but I think another reason why I shoved was due to the flush draw as well. I still think that I would play it the same way though, especially since the way he played it looked like overpairs.....it's rediculous how many people min raise later/mid mtts in order to induce a raise, since many see this a s a pesky bet. If you read the article I posted from pocket5s, they talk about the fact that no one is going to use this bet to bluff...and if they do its like rediculous level thinking against an opponent like me that will fold AJ/AQ oop to it....

 

[KingCurtis]

OK, here is the hand that basically knocked me out of the mtt last night.

Stacks:
SB with 55042
BB with 73783
UTG with 181880
UTG+1 with 164259
MP1 with 156178
MP2 with 507469
CO with 108228
BTN with 56013

Blinds: 2500/5000
Site: Pokerstars
Dealt to BB:7♣ 7♥
Sklansky group 5
Preflop:
4 players fold.
CO raises 7500 to 12500
BTN calls [12500]
1 players fold.
Hero raises 60783 to 73283 [ all-in ]
1 players fold.
BTN calls [43013] [ all-in ] Uncalled bet (17770) returned to Hero
Total folds this street: 6
Potsize: 143796
Flop:
9♦ 8♥ 8♠
Potsize: 143796
Turn:
Q♠
Potsize: 143796
River:
J♦
Results:
Hero shows two pair, Eights and Sevens:
7♣ 7♥
BTN shows two pair, Nines and Eights:
A♥ 9♥
BTN collected 130026 from pot

I thnk I did everything right. The only thing I don't understand is why would this guy flat A9H. I mean the initial raiser, is/was stealing a lot in LP so why would he flat then call my raise. TBH if i had A9 OTB and a known stealer raised I would have moved in...which makes me wonder what I would have done if he did push?

 

[S93]

Gonna play a few MTT´s tonight and im wondering if any one whants to do a sweet?
Let me know we can use msn/aim or w/e...

 

[S93]

OK, here is the hand that basically knocked me out of the mtt last night.

Stacks:
SB with 55042
BB with 73783
UTG with 181880
UTG+1 with 164259
MP1 with 156178
MP2 with 507469
CO with 108228
BTN with 56013

Blinds: 2500/5000
Site: Pokerstars
Dealt to BB:7♣ 7♥
Sklansky group 5
Preflop:
4 players fold.
CO raises 7500 to 12500
BTN calls [12500]
1 players fold.
Hero raises 60783 to 73283 [ all-in ]
1 players fold.
BTN calls [43013] [ all-in ] Uncalled bet (17770) returned to Hero
Total folds this street: 6
Potsize: 143796
Flop:
9♦ 8♥ 8♠
Potsize: 143796
Turn:
Q♠
Potsize: 143796
River:
J♦
Results:
Hero shows two pair, Eights and Sevens:
7♣ 7♥
BTN shows two pair, Nines and Eights:
A♥ 9♥
BTN collected 130026 from pot

I thnk I did everything right. The only thing I don't understand is why would this guy flat A9H. I mean the initial raiser, is/was stealing a lot in LP so why would he flat then call my raise. TBH if i had A9 OTB and a known stealer raised I would have moved in...which makes me wonder what I would have done if he did push?

Btn is flatting with 11BB stack witch imo is insane since original raisers range is a lot of steals that fold to a shove but he still only like 60/40 against his range. so what is the value of going to flop with 9BB behind in a basicly coinflip situation when u know u can fold out the majority of the CO range by shoving?
Your push is pretty standard since both villains are in steal postion and the dead money in the pot+some fold equity+ the image u had at the time means flipping there is something we should be happy about.

 

[KingCurtis]

Gonna play a few MTT´s tonight and im wondering if any one whants to do a sweet?
Let me know we can use msn/aim or w/e...

I might be able to later this evening, but I'm not completely positive. I'll see you on aim?

 

[S93]

I might be able to later this evening, but I'm not completely positive. I'll see you on aim?

Sure im on aim. Pantin also offered so im sure with u two on my side i will win atleast 5MTTs

 

[KingCurtis]

Other than Sindri, is anyone playing anything tonight? I'm in about 4-5 mtts

 

[Debi]

I played in the 30k today and went out with JJ right before the bubble. (10 spots)

Slap me for not posting that hand - I was so crushed I closed the table too fast.

 

[KingCurtis]

I played in the 30k today and went out with JJ right before the bubble. (10 spots)

Slap me for not posting that hand - I was so crushed I closed the table too fast.

look for it

or explain it, what did they have, it sounds like you did the right thing even thought it was the bubble

 

[Debi]

Well here was the situation the best I remember it. As I said it was 10 spots to the bubble. The tournie paid 630 and I was in the 400's - would make it to the money. Blinds were 150/300. I think I was 1 spot in front of the CO. I am dealt JJ. My heart sinks lol. I say - I am not playing this hand. Everyone folds to me. I raise 3x BB and the BB calls. He has me covered on chips. Flop comes Q52.

These were my thoughts. He was no idiot - but not extremely aggressive either. I thought maybe he had a medium pair or AK, AQ, AJ.

If I put a bet out there he was going to call with any of those hands - and I still would not know what he had. And he may hit on the turn or river. IMO my options were to check and fold to a raise or shove.

I was thinking of how I rarely have a good chip stack after I get in the money because I play chicken trying to get itm. So I shoved.

He had AQ.

I contemplated suicide by drug overdose. I was so happy with how I had played to that point and felt I was getting back to where I needed to be.

Maybe in retrospect I should have raised bigger pre-flop.

 

[pantin007]

what was ur stack size?

 

[Debi]

what was ur stack size?

I don't remember exactly but I think it was over $8k.

 

[pantin007]

ok, preflop is fine, i might even raise less to like 700 or 750

the flop is where u made ur mistake, i much preflop a standard c-bet on this flop. check call is not horrible becuase it induces bluffs from ur opponent but if u have him pegged as a station who will call u with A high here, it is best u bet about 1/2 to 2/3 pot bet and fold to a re-raise because only a hand that beats u will re-raise here and if he just smooth calls on the flop, it is pretty safe to double barrell on any non danger card board and if he calls again, u probably need to check the river. u have position on him and by double barrelling on the turn he may well check back a queen on the river so u will be able to see a cheap showdown.

the shove is pretty bad because, ur risking 7K for a pot that contains about 2K and u lose a lot of of $EV when u get called and u never get value from hands u beat.

 

[KingCurtis]

yeah i like pF, and I think flop is c-bet/fold to reraise or push

if he flats on flop then check/fold from there

 

[Debi]

Thanks guys - I appreciate the feedback which is pretty much what Joe had told me too. (But you know women don't like to get feedback from their husbands lol)

Why does learning how to be a good poker player have to be such a painful process? I still feel the pain of losing that hand over 5 hours later lol. And it is not the pain of money - it is the pain of knowing I made a mistake at a crucial point.

 

[pantin007]

Thanks guys - I appreciate the feedback which is pretty much what Joe had told me too. (But you know women don't like to get feedback from their husbands lol)

Why does learning how to be a good poker player have to be such a painful process? I still feel the pain of losing that hand over 5 hours later lol. And it is not the pain of money - it is the pain of knowing I made a mistake at a crucial point.

been there, the more u play, the less mistakes u will eventually make
poker is really just trial and error, see what works and see what doesnt and stick with what does