Baldy86
Legend
Bronze Level
Herkstwin
Legend
Bronze Level
Responders in this thread seem to have different definitions of 'slow-roll'. From my experience, a slow-roll is only possible in a live game, not online, because, by definition (macmillan dictionary) a slow-roll is when a player with a winning hand deliberately takes a long time to turn over their cards, so as to make the loser anxious, angry, and ticked off.
Online, the poker site automatically exposes the hands and the player has no impact on the time it takes for that to happen.
With this definition in mind - a slow-roll in a live game is one of the biggest sins you can commit at the poker table. It shows disrespect for your opponents and for the game. Don't do it.
Gallarado777
Legend
Loyaler
I think it's normal when you really have something to think about when it's hard to make a decision and you really spend time thinking, and not when a person just sits and takes time every move to infuriate players who are going to work soon and they go to play poker, you don't need to do this even in home games
takinitSLEAZEE
Legend
Loyaler
Wow, this is a crazy thread. The miscomprehension is startling. The "slowroll" is not eating the clock. It's a check-call move. It used to be called "sandbagging", but it changed over time.
Slow-playing is just making your opponent(s) sweat a little while being a slight d!ck doing so, which is totally fine. If the situation calls for it I'll gladly put on my pr!ck-slippers and play accordingly.
And there should be no penalty.
Slow-playing is just making your opponent(s) sweat a little while being a slight d!ck doing so, which is totally fine. If the situation calls for it I'll gladly put on my pr!ck-slippers and play accordingly.
And there should be no penalty.
Aballinamion
Sleeping with the Dark Lady of the Sith
Loyaler
Good to know you don’t like it: I will use it as a tool to irritate you at the tables.
skaniol
Visionary
Bronze Level
You seem to forget about the situation when a player is last to act, they hold the nuts or someting close, and they take a lot of time to call, like they are considering folding. Even when that player holds the winning hand, the call is not done automatically. If they call and their strong hand is exposed, such players can be accused of slow rolling.
I don't like to jump to conclusions whenever I am on the receiving end of that situation: there could be many legitimate reasons why the player took a long time to act despite holding a strong hand. I was even accused of slow rolling a few times when I was considering folding near the bubble with a hand that was strong, but not the nuts. IMO, when the tournament survival is at stake, one is free to take all of their alloted time to make their decision, especially near the bubble.
Wow, this is a crazy thread. The miscomprehension is startling. The "slowroll" is not eating the clock. It's a check-call move. It used to be called "sandbagging", but it changed over time.
Slow-playing is just making your opponent(s) sweat a little while being a slight d!ck doing so, which is totally fine. If the situation calls for it I'll gladly put on my pr!ck-slippers and play accordingly.
And there should be no penalty.
We aren't discussing slow playing in this thread, which is a different term.
Kenzie 96
Legend
Loyaler
I favored drawing & quartering for years ,but to be honest, where the hell are you going to find 4 horses at 2 a.m.
Now days, on those rare cases where I feel certain that it was a deliberate slowroll, I just comfort myself with the old saying; You can't cure stupid & move on.
Now days, on those rare cases where I feel certain that it was a deliberate slowroll, I just comfort myself with the old saying; You can't cure stupid & move on.
Pokerpoet2
Legend
Loyaler
There is some difference between slow playing and slow rolling, I have been in some situations where I have made the "Nuts" on the River and depending on my position in the betting order, I have had to think how much I should bet in order to extract more chips from my opponents, Too big and they could run away and too little will not give much in return, So obviously if someone shoves All-in I am going to take some time to think if others are still involved in the hand, But if we were the last two playing in the hand, My chips would be in faster than the other player who declares all-in.
There is nothing clever about winning a hand with the "Nuts" and tanking in order to drag it out, all you are doing is prolonging the other players agony in defeat which is never Funny or Clever. It is a sure way to lose Respect and Friendship.
Penalties would be a way to stop such behaviour, but nothing short of a forced sit out for a full rotation of the table would do any damage to an offending player, Something similar to the Shark Tank games I have seen on TV.
There is nothing clever about winning a hand with the "Nuts" and tanking in order to drag it out, all you are doing is prolonging the other players agony in defeat which is never Funny or Clever. It is a sure way to lose Respect and Friendship.
Penalties would be a way to stop such behaviour, but nothing short of a forced sit out for a full rotation of the table would do any damage to an offending player, Something similar to the Shark Tank games I have seen on TV.
NoWuckingFurries
Legend
Silver Level
Was watching a Lex Veldhuis 11 hour stream yesterday and he was becoming quite annoyed with a player that had done it to him 4 times during the tournament. Poker is a mind game as well as a mental arithmetic challenge. If some people become stressed out by slowrolling then you can guarantee that other players will use it to try to trigger them. Lex managed to pull right back from a chip and a chair, and eventually managed to make it to the final table, incidentally.