i cant even begin to tell you how many times ive been rocked by 88 vs AA on bovada, but AA wins overall. all i know its best not putting 100% of your stack in so you have some chips to fall back on.
You are right on target; AA and KK are highly overrated. Like any pair, it's only one pair. It needs improvement, like they all do before going to town. That is why I would rather be holding a SSC facing those pairs. Far greater options.
One big mistake I often see is shoving with KK early in an MTT. That is when the weakest players are abundant and likely to call with ANY ace at all. Then they get a lucky flop, turn, or river, and it's over for KK. Early, it's better to see a flop with KK before going nuke, IMO.
i cant even begin to tell you how many times ive been rocked by 88 vs AA on bovada, but AA wins overall. all i know its best not putting 100% of your stack in so you have some chips to fall back on.
Missed your post before posting mine.If you're all in pre with a single player, they show 88, and you can pick your hand, then you take 99 to block some straights. If they have 44 you take 55, then 66, then AA in that order. Against 22 or 33 you take AA. Odds calculators are fun.
If they are the one with AA and you had to pick a smaller pair for yourself, you'd take 66, then 88, then 77, then TT in that order. KK incidentally is one of the worst pairs to have against AA. Only 22 fares worse.
That would be AA vs AK (one of the AA same suit as the K).Anyone want to hazard a guess as to which two hands you'd select if you could pick the hand for both yourself and your opponent?
Good guess, and it's up there, but it's wrong (A6 fares worse than AK in that spot). The single most lopsided pre flop match up in texas holdem is KK vs K2o. Specifically, when the suit of the deuce is covered by one of the kings in the other hand.
Going back to straights and such, ATs is a favourite over 33 but 33 is a favourite over AJs. Note also that 52o does better against 77 than either 42o or 62o. Good luck wrapping your head around that one gentlemen.
I'm just full of useless crap like this lol.
I've got one for you, Dunning. I was in an MTT (9-handed) the other day and I was dealt KK in early position. I got all my chips in the middle preflop, got three callers, and lost. I looked up the hand afterward on a poker calculator and, as it turns out, I had a 0.01% chance of winning the hand. See if you can use the info I've given you and your poker experience to reason what the other three hands were.
Regardless, before this hand I would have said it was impossible for a player holding KK to get all his chips in the middle of the table preflop and only have a 0.01% of winning the hand --- but I would have been wrong.
-HooDooKoo
What immediately comes to mind off the top of my head would be if the other hands were AA, AA, and KK. You're drawing pretty slim in that instance, and if those were in fact the three hands you were up against then that's one heck of a story to tell... seeing 4 hands at the same time KK or better.
You'd definitely have more than 0.01% equity in that situation, but as far as winning the pot outright yeah that's probably going to happen around 0.01% of the time give or take (can't stove anything atm). I can take a couple of minutes to work out the exact probability since it would be relatively straightforward to do (only a straight flush to the K will win you the pot), but anyone could just stove it and get the precise figures that way so there's no real point.
If the hands were AA, KK, and QQ, and the aces and queens both happened to match your kings in suit, then you can never win that pot at all. Your overall equity would still be greater than 0.01% thanks to splits but it would be lower than in the AA AA KK scenario above.
As an aside, having literally 0% equity in a pre flop confrontation and no hope of even a split is very difficult to do. You need a minimum of 6 callers, and even then, coming up with the correct 7 hands to make this work is not a simple task. Heh.
Ah I see. Yeah it amounts to the same thing as all of the aces and kings in the deck comprise the hands in play.
You got your reply in before I got my edit in. I didn't have my phone handy so I worked out the exact odds of hitting your straight flush... just for fun lol.