Is poker the most "human" game?

[Yunyi]

I play "go", an Asian board game once considered the most human board game because computer could not handle. However recently years google software (alphago) has been defeating top human players like machine cutting grass... now I found poker seems more "human" than go, because of its character of being so "relative". Anyone knows that machine poker players can beat human players yet? I suppose computer can calculate odds much easier than humans but somewhere I read that poker is still the only game that computer can't do well.

 

[onione6ix]

Libratus has beaten the best heads up players. Full ring No limit cannot be solved yet to many variables. Game has more variables then atoms in the universe. Only a matter of time before computers solve 9max NL.

heads up limit has been Solved. That's why limit poker is dead . Heads up NL has been beaten . thats why heads up is on it way out. Where have you been, under a rock ?

 

[Datdude1]

I think that typically, any game where odds are involved a computer can calculate those odds quicker than humans can...advantage computer. Fortunately poker is about more than just odds and it is in these aspects that humans have a far greater advantage.

 

[Zvezda kz]

I think it is still impossible to be 100% confident of winning a poker tournament due to many uncertainties. Of course, the chances of a computer are higher, but this does not guarantee victory.
And in the near future this will not happen.

 

[psuedosuited]

I think that is an accurate description. Donks keep the game incapable of solving.

 

[neptun1914]

I wish good luck to any computer trying to play against 10000 people no limit holdem in an open freeroll.

 

[Yunyi]

I wish good luck to any computer trying to play against 10000 people no limit holdem in an open freeroll.

lol... but at least computer won't get "tilt"

 

[Yunyi]

would computer bluff?

 

[Yunyi]

human emotion is a huge disadvantage when fight against machine. when i was watching human top Go players played computer their nervousness was such obvious weakness.
i also found that emotion is number 1 weakness in poker. whenever i got emotional i would be punished. so i wonder if machine does odds way better and never gets emotional, what else it needs to defeat humans? bluff?

 

[Erpherk]

If you look up poker AI vs players you can see some AI game play. They make moves and jam with A high in some spots when missing the flop. They are capable of bluffing and running big plays and i'm sure they are so advanced now you might mistake some of them as players. Some may think they have an edge on AI, but AI remembers everything and takes it into account when making future decisions. It's a scary concept to think about but it is very real.

 

[Inequitas]

Monopoly.... Maybe Jumanji lol Those Games and any game that has "Chance" at the root or basis is still a human game...

Laws of Probability cant define a specific outcome and when its a roll of a dice or the distribution of cards in a shuffled pack then the same can be said for its math...

Human Game!?!?! lol Don't know that there are games that aren't Human or It's a subject of relativity...

I'd like to see a computer or AI play the game of life... Be a good Father, Friend, husband, Wife or Play The Great Game of Love...

Human and AI hmmmm AI's playing human Games...

How About Dog's? I mean can a human play a game that dog's are good at? Maybe Chase a Hare round a track? lol Would an AI be able to play every game that animals in their natural environment play...

I suppose AI's will be able to play Poker as good as any human one day but like the game Snap which is played by chance the ability to win is based on reaction speed... May Be AI's will have us beat in that regard...

 

[jekan85]

I think a person is stronger than a computer in poker, although a person has a lack of emotion and impatience

 

[Yunyi]

Monopoly.... Maybe Jumanji lol Those Games and any game that has "Chance" at the root or basis is still a human game...

Laws of Probability cant define a specific outcome and when its a roll of a dice or the distribution of cards in a shuffled pack then the same can be said for its math...

Human Game!?!?! lol Don't know that there are games that aren't Human or It's a subject of relativity...

I'd like to see a computer or AI play the game of life... Be a good Father, Friend, husband, Wife or Play The Great Game of Love...

Human and AI hmmmm AI's playing human Games...

How About Dog's? I mean can a human play a game that dog's are good at? Maybe Chase a Hare round a track? lol Would an AI be able to play every game that animals in their natural environment play...

I suppose AI's will be able to play Poker as good as any human one day but like the game Snap which is played by chance the ability to win is based on reaction speed... May Be AI's will have us beat in that regard...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2t7r3GsCYM

good point. everything is relative, i suppose. and i do think AI can do as good as humans... the video is funny

 

[molokheia]

Hi There
I Think that tri-dimensional chess that Spock plays is the most human board that
anyone could invent.....LOL

No really,,,, maybe poker is the one
Rgds

 

[Lena M]

Hello.
No doubt poker is one of the most popular games. In addition, I am convinced that the popularity of this great game will grow with each passing year.

 

[Russian Idiot]

I do not know how everything is programmed there, I feel like in a casino, when I play on a computer, everything is completely unpredictable. dealer cyborg!

 

[ANATOLII1981]

human game

It seems to me that now any game can already be played with a computer. The software and the modern increase in computer performance have already increased so much that people have absolutely no chance against a computer. It’s already incorrect and senseless to consider the humanity of the game from such a position. I don’t think that poker a very human game - because it gathers many different amazing people at the same table and makes them willy-nilly meets, hangs, gets to know each other and exchange the necessary information ( not even on the subject of the game):icon_sant:icon_sant:icon_sant

 

[alfiyka]

I have always believed that when you play online be sure to participate the computer program.There everything is calculated and even determined your winnings.So on the table go the incredible a combination of.

 

[Vasilii813]

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I think you are wrong computer does not make mistakes if there is an artificial intellect to play against the person then at the stage he will be the winner but for this just need to make such a program quality, chess program can beat the ledger once from Twenty draw once out of five do the conclusion of a man lack izvilin be equal to the computer and to win constantly we can already forget, so

 

[Rob Hobson]

lol... but at least computer won't get "tilt"

Tilt is part of the poker
Tilt is the greatest challenge the human poker players has to face
You have to deal with it
You have to overcome it
That's why bots or computer players, in my opinion, should never play with humans, unless if it's purely for fun (no profits). The computers miss this special item that poker is about too, tilt.
Is just unfair.

Best of Luck

 

[ganbat]

Poker is that struggle of human versus human, regardless of gender, religion, political affiliation, or economic status.

 

[MishkaZL]

Poker has two components, skill and luck. And although the computer can be very skilled, the factor of luck remains always relevant.