Poker is Gambling

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While there is luck in any given hand poker is not about a given hand but a sting of hands we play over time. You maybe unlucky in the next hand you play but poker is a game of skill were long term success is demanded. If poker was all luck you would not see certain player winning year after year.
 
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I absolutely disagree with this point of view! It's just that in poker, unlike chess, you need a longer distance to show the advantages of a stronger player!
 
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Yes poker is a game of chance! There are ups and downs in this game! poker is so addictive to people
 
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i disagree . poker is not gambling because there are too many factors in the game that you can influence . you can decide if you play a hand or fold it . if you limp or raise or reraise or push all in . position , bluffing (very important point to say it is not gambling) . also if you have reading abilities . bankroll management . tilt management . if you are playing drunk or not . etc.

poker is only gambling if you treat it as gambling and if you let it become gambling for you
 
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I don't think poker is a game of chance. After all, if you study and train, then try to make money playing poker, it's more like a job. If you do not deposit, but create your bankroll from freerolls, how can you call it excitement? If you lose and make a deposit all the time, then it will be exciting.
 
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As Kenny Rogers said, " "If you're gonna play the game, boy You gotta learn to play it right.
You've got to know when to hold 'em, Know when to fold 'em, Know when to walk away, And know when to run. Every gambler knows
That the secret to survivin' Is knowin' what to throw awayAnd knowin' what to keep
'Cause every hand's a winner And every hand's a loser And the best that you can hope for
Is to die in your sleep"
 
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Poker is winning a percentage of your investment.

For example, investing 1000 dollars to earn 150 or 200.

The percentage of your profit depends on your level of play and the duration depends on the number of tables you play at the same time.
 
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Poker is Gambling. Chess is not. Therefore in Poker Luck plays a big amount on one’s success. If you are dealt AA, KK over & over there is little strategy. We see WSOP poker champions like Jamey Gold win one year & nothing after. When analyzing his hands he made hand after hand by luck.. there was little skill. So Poker is gambling-Luck plays a big part. Chess is skill, little to no luck involved
Poker certainly depends on luck, but not entirely. If you make low-value plays, the chance of winning is greatly reduced.
That's still part of the game. What makes me sad and angry is manipulated software, which reduces your chance of winning to zero.
 
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Poker will be a gambling, until you understand the game, acquire the proper knowledge base and train discipline)
 
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Poker certainly depends on luck, but not entirely. If you make low-value plays, the chance of winning is greatly reduced.
That's still part of the game. What makes me sad and angry is manipulated software, which reduces your chance of winning to zero.

The thing is, when all players at the table know how to play, skill is similar, so the big differencial is pretty much luck.
 
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Poker is a game of chance. And that's why many people love it. Poker combines both luck and skill. In roulette or slot machines, nothing depends on the player, and knowledge and adequate solutions are important in poker.
 
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slots are gambling. Poker is less gambling than slots. Skill will win in advantage over luck! But it's correct - chess have nothing to do with gambling in total!
 
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Poker is played for money, and the only significant indicator of success is the amount of money won. In poker, you can win a lot and lose a lot - and this is a sign of gambling. Secondly, poker is played in casinos, that is, where gambling is usually played. There is no doubt that poker is not roulette, and skill plays an essential role in poker.
 
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why wouldn't chess be gambling aswell? cause there is no money involved? when you make a chess move you gamble it's the right one right?
you also need luck the other play makes a mistake so there isn't a tie.
 
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There is luck involved in poker for short term but in long term there is so much math and probabilities
 
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Chess is a game of pure strategy, in poker, even though strategy is the most important part, there is still the question of luck, which often ends up deciding the winner
 
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Poker is Gambling. Chess is not. Therefore in Poker Luck plays a big amount on one’s success. If you are dealt AA, KK over & over there is little strategy. We see WSOP poker champions like Jamey Gold win one year & nothing after. When analyzing his hands he made hand after hand by luck.. there was little skill. So Poker is gambling-Luck plays a big part. Chess is skill, little to no luck involved
Poker is not gamble, any thing that requires skill and tactics is not gambling. Craps is gambling, if you have no poker skills what so ever and only rely on luck then it may be considered gamble/more appropriate it should just be called stupidity.
 
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I totally disagree, poker is demonstrably not a game of luck, you can see a lucky round, or rather a bet of chance, but the game ends 70% of the time on the flop, which proves that the game is strategic and psychological .
 
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if you play all hands in the expectation that luck will help you it will not work out very well, poker was created so that players with superficial knowledge would think that luck is the essence of the game
 
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All-in on preflop is always gambling. No matter what is your hand.
 
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Chess has nothing to do with gambling, predicting or anything of sorts. It is a game of analysis and strategy. Pool or snooker is similar in terms of strategy, planning moves ahead and putting your opponent in difficulty, but it also involves some coordination of your body, like many other sports. Only mentioned it cause it is also a board/table game.

I see poker more like day trading. It is more like investment opportunities rather than gambling. As in, you have information and you are constantly given information which you can use. Wether you interpret it correctly or not, that's your job. But, at the same time, day trading is considered gambling, while I see both as "prediction based on information" kind of act. Gambling would be simply tossing cards without a clue and hoping for the best.
 
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Poker is Gambling. Chess is not. Therefore in Poker Luck plays a big amount on one’s success. If you are dealt AA, KK over & over there is little strategy. We see WSOP poker champions like Jamey Gold win one year & nothing after. When analyzing his hands he made hand after hand by luck.. there was little skill. So Poker is gambling-Luck plays a big part. Chess is skill, little to no luck involved
The skill factor in poker is only known until you know ;)

Luck is in everything in life, people graduate with honors and become unemployed, people without education are successful. Poker is very complex and involves so many aspects that I'm not surprised by its comparison and misunderstanding. It's very difficult to maintain a high level of poker and understand all the information you need to make good decisions. I'll name a few: Position, range, size bet, player style, tournament stage, stack size, tells and psychological factors, facial expressions, concentration, optimism, that's just the tip of the iceberg. Poker involves everything!:love:
 
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Poker is not Luck and Chess is level skill, ranking against similar rankings is skill but there is such a broad range of ranks that its only competitive to you at approximately your specific rank. Poker is massive skill with luck most often helping those that need it to continue to play. The sprinkle of luck in poker is what keeps it competitive when you are against a much (higher ranked)better player.
 
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Poker is Gambling. Chess is not.
This subject keeps coming up and up, and my answer is always the same: Of course Poker is gambling. You're risking money on an uncertain outcome -- a gamble. However, gambles come in three varieties.

1) -EV: This includes games such as Craps, Roulette, the Slots, and all the other games I never play. You can get lucky and win big, but over many plays, that -EV will eat you alive.

2) 0EV: Bet a dollar to win a dollar on the flip of a fair coin fairly tossed. You neither win nor lose over the long run.

3) +EV: Casinos don't give you these bets unless it's by mistake, part of a promotion, or a progressive slot jackpot that grows high enough to make it +EV to play for it. You can lose and lose big over a limited interval, but inevitably, you profit just as surely as the Roulette wheel wins for the house.

The only way to gat +EV bets are with games the casino doesn't bank. That would include horses, dogs, sports, Hai-Jahlai, other parimutual propositions, Chemin de Fer (watch out for this one as the rake can swing it -EV) and Poker. You can win at all of them if you have the SKILL to recognize overlays. As Bobby Baldwin pointed out the good Poker player doesn't depend on luck: he's at war with luck.
 
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