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The 2+2 Forums: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)
For anyone who doesn't want to wade through all that, I'll summarize...
- A hand is posted where some guy makes a ridiculous turn call with T high which is actually good. Not really suspect on its own, could be a misclick or w/e.
- Dunno where it started, but a rumour appears to be in circulation that AP has a 'superuser' account for testing purposes that can see other players hole cards.
- Some crazy PT screenshots and stats are posted (doubledrag, potripper and graycat are apparently all the same person).
Note not only the fact that the guy is playing with an insane VPIP/PFR and winning, but also the ridiculous river aggression factor. Pretty much exactly as you'd expect someone to play if they knew other player's hole cards.
- A bunch of HS regulars have sent HHs to adanthar, who notes that he can never see any instance of the guy calling with a worse hand on any street that subsequently goes to showdown.
Some hands...
Here's the T high hand I mentioned at the start.
Basically, the play really does identically and consistently match what one would expect from an uncultured player who can see his opponents holecards.
If you're still not feeling it, read through the thread. Many of the people who are onside with the 'something is amiss' theory are high stakes regulars who are much better at interpreting these sort of things than I am. Nevertheless, it makes for pretty unpleasant viewing even for me, although I've never played at Absolute (or played $3k NL, lol).
Who'd have thought I'd ever be making a serious "ZOMG RIGGED" thread?
The 2+2 Forums: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)
For anyone who doesn't want to wade through all that, I'll summarize...
- A hand is posted where some guy makes a ridiculous turn call with T high which is actually good. Not really suspect on its own, could be a misclick or w/e.
- Dunno where it started, but a rumour appears to be in circulation that AP has a 'superuser' account for testing purposes that can see other players hole cards.
- Some crazy PT screenshots and stats are posted (doubledrag, potripper and graycat are apparently all the same person).
Note not only the fact that the guy is playing with an insane VPIP/PFR and winning, but also the ridiculous river aggression factor. Pretty much exactly as you'd expect someone to play if they knew other player's hole cards.
- A bunch of HS regulars have sent HHs to adanthar, who notes that he can never see any instance of the guy calling with a worse hand on any street that subsequently goes to showdown.
Some hands...
Here's the T high hand I mentioned at the start.
Stage #896976330 Tourney ID 1883389 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit $4500 - 2007-09-13 01:43:49 (ET)
Table: 14 (Real Money) Seat #3 is the dealer
Seat 3 - POTRIPPER ($765740 in chips)
Seat 8 - CRAZYMARCO ($214260 in chips)
POTRIPPER - Ante $450
CRAZYMARCO - Ante $450
POTRIPPER - Posts small blind $2250
CRAZYMARCO - Posts big blind $4500
*** POCKET CARDS ***
POTRIPPER - Calls $2250
CRAZYMARCO - Checks
*** FLOP *** [4h Kd Kh]
CRAZYMARCO - Checks
POTRIPPER - Bets $9000
CRAZYMARCO - Calls $9000
*** TURN *** [4h Kd Kh] [7s]
CRAZYMARCO - Checks
POTRIPPER - Bets $13500
CRAZYMARCO - All-In(Raise) $200310 to $200310
POTRIPPER - Calls $186810
*** RIVER *** [4h Kd Kh 7s] [5s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
POTRIPPER - Shows [10c 9c] (One pair, kings)
CRAZYMARCO - Shows [9h 2h] (One pair, kings)
POTRIPPER Collects $428520 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($428520)
Board [4h Kd Kh 7s 5s]
Seat 3: POTRIPPER (dealer) (small blind) won Total ($428520) HI
Seat 8: CRAZYMARCO (big blind) HI:lost with One pair, kings [9h 2h - B:Kh,B:Kd,P:9h,B:7s,B:5s]
Basically, the play really does identically and consistently match what one would expect from an uncultured player who can see his opponents holecards.
If you're still not feeling it, read through the thread. Many of the people who are onside with the 'something is amiss' theory are high stakes regulars who are much better at interpreting these sort of things than I am. Nevertheless, it makes for pretty unpleasant viewing even for me, although I've never played at Absolute (or played $3k NL, lol).
Who'd have thought I'd ever be making a serious "ZOMG RIGGED" thread?
