Luck better than skill?

[dj11]

Once upon a time I fixed computers for a living. I was very good., Fast and accurate about diagnosis. I seldom missed.

Then I ran into a head scratcher. Every now and then this one particular machine would just do a wobble. On the display, it would be sort of like when you or I get one of those uncontrollable shivers that lasts only a few seconds. Disconcerting, as you can imagine, to the operator.

Over the course of a week I had replaced everything (except the Bakelite like frame) in the machine, and nothing changed. I had to bring in the big guns. Guys who the company thought were better than me.

One morning we spent several hours trying to figure things out, no joy. Come lunch time, and I was getting hungry. The other guy didn't want to move, while I went to the door and was trying to coax him to break, eat, and think it all over.. I had the office door open, then the wobble happened, Outside the office door, the elevator door opened. EUREKA!

Case in point of sometimes having to get lucky to let your skills prevail.

For those not electrically/electronically savvy, turns out the elevator in question was next to the wall where that computer was. We only had to move the computer to the other side of the room to fix the problem. .We notified the building maintenance people who got to the elevator people who ended up determining there was a problem with a big motor on that particular elevator car.

 

[Superman2102]

Luck may win you a tournament or two, but skill will carry you in the long run. It's best to make sure you got the skill part down and hope for a little luck to go along with it!

 

[hffjd2000]

"A good player is always lucky." by: Jose Raul Capablanca, 3rd World Chess Champion.

 

[donkysnake]

"A good player is always lucky." by: Jose Raul Capablanca, 3rd World Chess Champion.

kinda true but still not

 

[lowlimitfish]

it's a proven fact that some people are just luckier than others. Think about it people have won the lottery jackpot more than once 1 in 7 million chance could be more while others have been struck by lightening more than once again 1 in 1 million chance +. Some people are plauged with bad luck, while others in life always lucky.

That's bad luck and good luck.There Luck is a part of life and a part of poker but i think poker is most skill else their wouldn't be pro's. Darvin moon from from wsop 2009 is a prime example of luck in poker guy ran like god for 8 days and made the final, and also joe cada who got it in bad every all in on the final table an won every single time.

I don't think randomness is the cause of someone running bad it's luck. If your lucks out in poker you ain't gonna win simples, just when the better players run bad they minimise thier losses were as the less skilled may tilt. Poker is a mix of skill, luck and variance and i think they will al determine short term success, where as skill will always determine the long term

 

[alunelu33]

Its good to be lucky, but that doesnt happen very often. Most of the time you are unlucky. In 6 month, a year or more, youll see that luck wont help you every day, skill will.

 

[ChipsOwnerRO]

I agree with you, if you have luck you will always win, because this is luck The skill is an important aspect in poker that helps you to take the best decision.
So, if you want to win, always you need both:luck and skill.If you don't have one of this very important things you will not have success.

 

[tothbopo]

No way luck is better then skills in the long run.

Skills is what you need to build a prober bankroll.

Luck can not give you a big cashin in poker.

 

[chinomoreno]

On card games that require skills, luck is just a bonus. But casino games like slots, roulette, bingo etc. luck should be 100%

 

[ThomasDelgado]

It depends upon the player's mentality, if he believes in luck then for him poker is about luck charm game. Some people believe on skill more than luck. I personally think there is a strong relation between skill and luck.

 

[PokerFunKid]

To be a profitable player over a long time, you will need the skill. But to win a tournament, you will need some luck with you also. In my opinion luck vs skills should we around 25/75 in poker.

 

[guutox]

These days Im prefering luck than skill

 

[Slicc50]

Yeah, luck vs skill. I would normally say better to be skillful than lucky. Here lately though. It seems I have run into a string of bad luck that has lasted 10,000 hands or so. So right about now I could use a little bit of luck. In the long run though, people are right. It's better to be skillful than lucky. The luck seems to even out in the end.

 

[Henry Minute]

Luck is temporary, skill is permanent.

To win, or even place well, you usually have a little luck but mostly it is your skill that does the heavy lifting.

If you regularly win games by only playing hands where you are ahead then you are super skilled. For most of us (i.e. the other 99.999999999% of players) we have to win at least one, probably more than one, hand that we shouldn't really win and that's where the luck comes in.

 

[kingiukas]

you can't won without both of them but to win regularly you need much more skill then luck.

 

[somersetlad9]

Think luck plays important part in poker but the higher up in stakes u go then the skill % becomes that much more

 

[Staneff]

If luck was enough to beat skilled players then most of poker pros would be unknown poker players.

 

[urbanekpyrotic]

Luck is good for wining in the short term but, skill is essential to being successful in the long run.

 

[somersetlad9]

Luck short term Skill long term. Also find on pokerstars you need to live in Eastern Europe to run better than EV as well

 

[nmolliso]

If you are a skillful player, it hurts to see a less skillful player win more money than you do simply because that player got lucky. But this does not mean that it's better to be lucky long term.

Like IPlay said above, luck will not usually stay with the same person. When you become skillful at something, it usually lasts much longer.

A skillful player should be able to overcome bad luck by changing game structure and utilizing bankroll management, much more than a lucky player should be able to sustain their good fortune over a long period of time.

 

[arizoney]

yup skill wins out in the long run. but sometimes if i didnt have bad luck i wouldnt have any luck at all

 

[Raven5150]

I honestly think its 60% skill and 40% luck. Like others have said, in order to go far into a tournament you need to be able to win some coin flips, and races. But being able to make important folds when you feel your beat, is certainly the skill factor.

 

[chinomoreno]

The never ending discussion of luck and skill.

 

[wincwales]

Your luck is another players variance and your skill is another players bad beats and suck outs

 

[bigjay2007]

Luck is never better thank skill if you play according to the odds and situations. Most lucky players are true gamblers and will lose before they hit the big $$$. however that means that many of us get knocked out of games due to reckless play. Just my opinion