pantin007
member
Silver Level
hes tilted because he is being pwndThen WTF is he even talking about?
Snow
kinda like helmuth against adam levy in last years main event
kinda like helmuth against adam levy in last years main event
OzExorcist
Broomcorn's uncle
Bronze Level
Aaahhh, Salty Joe. Doing what he does best - getting salty
He's probably just tilted because he had to make a big laydown or something, it's hardly the first time he's gotten a bit, erm, "emotional" during a big tournament.
Personally, the wire service's attempts at explaining how a poker tournament works tilt me a lot more than Hachem's comments.
As to how this hurts his marketing potential, I don't think it'll do anything.
For one thing, it's vastly outweighed by all his positive achievements. He's far and away the most successful of the Stars-sponsored ME winners and even if he never wins another major tournament again he'll have a steady stream of opportunities with Australian B&M casinos and poker media for the rest of his life. Srsly, he's the god of poker down here.
And to the best of my knowledge he doesn't really get into coaching or writing books, so meh.
For another thing, who's about the most famous person in poker? Phil Hellmuth. What's he famous for? Pissing and moaning. Case closed.
He's probably just tilted because he had to make a big laydown or something, it's hardly the first time he's gotten a bit, erm, "emotional" during a big tournament.
Personally, the wire service's attempts at explaining how a poker tournament works tilt me a lot more than Hachem's comments.
As to how this hurts his marketing potential, I don't think it'll do anything.
For one thing, it's vastly outweighed by all his positive achievements. He's far and away the most successful of the Stars-sponsored ME winners and even if he never wins another major tournament again he'll have a steady stream of opportunities with Australian B&M casinos and poker media for the rest of his life. Srsly, he's the god of poker down here.
And to the best of my knowledge he doesn't really get into coaching or writing books, so meh.
For another thing, who's about the most famous person in poker? Phil Hellmuth. What's he famous for? Pissing and moaning. Case closed.
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stevemeacham
Rising Star
Bronze Level
hey folks how are you all,,good good ,i hope y'all arent having a jab at joe hachem here in these forums cause ,,well hey let me introduce myself im steve im just an "average joe" (not referring to hachem) i play btween pokerstars and full tilt maimly but am just recently staring to explore Ultimatebet also i play more than 50hrs a week online and live in about 4 tournaments a week so majority of my time playing poker is online...i have an open mind about differrent opinions and am always keen to hear just another side of things as a person im easy going and quite respectful and i try to take this to the tables with me when i play poker especially in important events.........glad to join cardzchat as i have noticed this community in lobby's across the different sites i use,,will be keen to meet y'all.......now back to joe'y hachem my opinion on the bloke is that he is a gentleman fully respectful to play poker with a great pokermind and being a natural of reading body language and combines this well with a very solid sortve "hard to KNOCK' player that will use his stack to the best of ITS ability not always his ability he is great to watch a a fine character when he is in form and on top of his game...i love the bloke and i say it proudly that he is one of my faourite pro's amongst all of the names on the pro curcuit..
Stick66
Legend
Silver Level
Didn't he have like a 5-1 or 7-1 chip lead though and was HU for hours? And wasn't he on a bully bluff or something? I could be wrong.
pantin007
member
Silver Level
not the same thing and different situation
Cheezymadman
Rock Star
Silver Level
Don't forget Dragomir. That was a legendary Poker Brat blowup.
pantin007
member
Silver Level
not the same thing, drago was actually quite bad
Cheezymadman
Rock Star
Silver Level
No, Losev was bad. That string bet, and the shoves afterwards? Made me tilt just watching it.
Stick66
Legend
Silver Level
OzExorcist
Broomcorn's uncle
Bronze Level
Completely different. It was heads up and (more importantly, for this argument) Hachem had already made the straight when the money went in.
Stick66
Legend
Silver Level
Wow! Even more spouting from Hachem calling them "monkeys":
http://www.pokerlistings.com/hachem-slams-main-event-monkeys-42706
He was short stacked at the time and most likely grumpy.
http://www.pokerlistings.com/hachem-slams-main-event-monkeys-42706
He was short stacked at the time and most likely grumpy.
Surf Rat
Visionary
Silver Level
:joyman: cguru: Bitch...Bitch...Bitch....I don't think hyper aggressive play is desrespectful after all its NO LIMIT HOLDEM !! it may make it harder to get a "read" on them but in poker you have to have paitence and be able to adjust your game to events/people/play around you at the table and besides Donks also have money to buy those chips to play ...you just have to figure out how 'n when to take the chippies from them.
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Aaronftw
Rock Star
Silver Level
My take on this.. It seems hashem would notice a difference In playing style year to year.. Maybe he's noticing a trend? The disrespect comes in when old pros like Barry greenstein raises he's standard 3BB.. And you have some amateur fist pumping an over sized reraise with a marginal hand.. You may not know this at the time but it can make your play hard becuase the time you 3 bet they may show up with a hand. Not many people would just openly reraise Barry greenstein with any pp or broadway cards... Basically respect the old schoolers learn to play levels and don't bust all your chips so early.
dj11
Legend
Silver Level
would really prefer the HH, but this will have to do....
Joe Hachem waited until after 2 am to make his move. His stack sunk as low as $2 million and peaked at $20M for a while. Most of the night he had been short stacked. He didn't play too many pots and patiently waited for good hands. Joe Hachem eventually came from behind to win the 2005 WSOP main event after he knocked out Steve "Bloody Mary" Dannemann. Hachem flopped a straight with 3-7o. Danneman moved all in with A-3 when an Ace spiked on the turn. Steve Dannemann won $4,500,000 for his stellar work. Joe Hachem won his first WSOP bracelet.
From the first google site when looking for "winning Hand 2005 WSOP"
sorry for not giving proper credit...
Joe Hachem waited until after 2 am to make his move. His stack sunk as low as $2 million and peaked at $20M for a while. Most of the night he had been short stacked. He didn't play too many pots and patiently waited for good hands. Joe Hachem eventually came from behind to win the 2005 WSOP main event after he knocked out Steve "Bloody Mary" Dannemann. Hachem flopped a straight with 3-7o. Danneman moved all in with A-3 when an Ace spiked on the turn. Steve Dannemann won $4,500,000 for his stellar work. Joe Hachem won his first WSOP bracelet.
From the first google site when looking for "winning Hand 2005 WSOP"
sorry for not giving proper credit...
Dwilius
CardsChat Regular
Silver Level
...so what's your point, that just shows Oz was right, the money went in after he hit a huge flop heads up.
lektrikguy
Legend
Silver Level
He really does have a point...how many times have we seen someone go all in first hand with A 6? It would be different if they were in a brick and mortar casino and had to walk to another tourney for sure. But the old timers probably said the same thing about his generation and the way they played. But what does it really matter??? It gets him closer to the money so he should sit back and enjoy it.
GeoffLacey
Visionary
Silver Level
The words Hachem and respectful should not have any sort of interaction. Ever. Or the world might just explode
OzExorcist
Broomcorn's uncle
Bronze Level
Maybe it's just my national pride kicking in, but I've gotta take issue with that. Sure he has a rant from time to time, and he absolutely says "one time" too much.
But to say that he's always disrespectful? C'mon, seriously...