beantownmaniac
Enthusiast
Silver Level
That shows how much the drunk know about the rules. even if you use one of your chips as a card protector, if you announce all-in, it's part of your bet.
That shows how much the drunk know about the rules. even if you use one of your chips as a card protector, if you announce all-in, it's part of your bet.
Tammy
Can I help you?
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Yeah, if you're using a chip from your stack as a card protector, and announce all-in, you have to put that chip in the pot as well. Just make sure to hold onto your cards after that.
beantownmaniac
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horrible situation no doubt , luckily she got some back . can you imagine having a very large stack and being close to the money and losing the WSOP on a dealers mistake . I guess card protectors would stop it , so the rules should say everyone must use a card protector . or it should be in my opinion the same as a bet if your chips are out past a certain point , it's a bet . the same should go for the cards , if they are not out past the line , then the dealer should not touch them . I do understand that anyone can make a mistake but why would any dealer be so stupid as to take cards that are right up against the rail in front of you ? would anyone fold and just leave their cards there ?
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the dealer did not acknowledge his all in or even have the sense to realize it , as with the dealer in the youtube clip . I assume the dealers are just trying to do their job and not really paying attention to the game itself . imo a good dealer of WSOP caliber would know who was in and who was out and where the hand stood at all times .
I agree. In the video, her cards weren't way out in front of, they right along the rail. The dealer screwed up big time.
illphillllllll
Rock Star
Silver Level
too many people blaming the dealer for an honest mistake. it was the OP's fault for not protecting his hand bottom line. like juicee stated earlier, if you see a player who is not protecting his hand and you fling your cards at the hand it is dead. standard floor ruling except that he gave villian opportunity to let OP keep some chips. i never bring a card protector with me but always use my lighter. also, dont ever use a tampon to protect your cards during a womens only event if you are a man, it was frowned upon last year.
beantownmaniac
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Why didn't you tell the dealer what really happened? That guy should have been escorted out and banned from the casino.
Tammy
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Believe me, I thought about it. But the guy was pretty ****ing scary looking/acting. And since I was there all by my lonesome, I figured I'd let the floor do their job.
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OzExorcist
Broomcorn's uncle
Bronze Level
FYP
Sven Deuceman
Rock Star
Silver Level
i think just anything above five foot round is though not across the board prohibited just kinda unsportsmanlike, so no plumpy ex gf's . just to be a hippie might i suggest getting a gemstone or something similar. tons of them bring "luck" or "wealth"and are moderately heavy so if you get po'ed by a one outter you could crack someone over the head with it. just to go for the blue saphhiresuckout stone, long story
i feel for ya but the rule is there for tons of reasons. like putting your hand forward with chips or calling without pushing the chips in are binding for a reason.
i feel for ya but the rule is there for tons of reasons. like putting your hand forward with chips or calling without pushing the chips in are binding for a reason.
JusSumguy
Chipmonger
Silver Level
It should be pointed out that if the cards can be identified, they can be retrieved.
The floor will ask which two cards are yours. Then he'll seek a witness. If there is someone at the table (hopefully the dealer) that can confirm that those are the cards, he/she will either give them back then, or ask you to whisper to him/her what they were for further verification.
I learned the same way. Sitting in seat one with AA. Was waiting on the guy for an hour too.
Dealer just made a mistake, which I invited. What are you gonna do? Oh well.
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The floor will ask which two cards are yours. Then he'll seek a witness. If there is someone at the table (hopefully the dealer) that can confirm that those are the cards, he/she will either give them back then, or ask you to whisper to him/her what they were for further verification.
I learned the same way. Sitting in seat one with AA. Was waiting on the guy for an hour too.
Dealer just made a mistake, which I invited. What are you gonna do? Oh well.
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OzExorcist
Broomcorn's uncle
Bronze Level
This is an ancient thread bump, but what the hell...
Sometimes it's just not possible to confirm that they're your cards. You can tell them you had AK until you're blue in the face, and there might even be an ace and a king in the muck. But if they can't be sure that they're your specific cards then there's no guarantee you'll get them back.
The situation you've described sucks, BTW, but it is one of the risks of playing live poker. If you're going to use your hand to protect your cards, actually keep your hand on your cards as opposed to just near them or hovering over them.
Sometimes it's just not possible to confirm that they're your cards. You can tell them you had AK until you're blue in the face, and there might even be an ace and a king in the muck. But if they can't be sure that they're your specific cards then there's no guarantee you'll get them back.
The situation you've described sucks, BTW, but it is one of the risks of playing live poker. If you're going to use your hand to protect your cards, actually keep your hand on your cards as opposed to just near them or hovering over them.
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nlcatter
Rising Star
Bronze Level
Omaha hi.lo, I had already turned over my high cards - they WERE VISIBLE even dealer was on my side, player complained, we got gaming division people to see camera VIDEO - said since 2 cards were IN muck ( i had them protected) didnt care about low hand all cards were dead! that is STUPIDITY!
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beerobrian
Enthusiast
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Wow, I've played a lot of live games and I have never really witnessed this much drama as on this thread. I am lucky I guess. Lucky for the other people at the table because I would have become homicidal. Just saying. I was thinking, a large clear mixing bowl to completely cover your cards would be perfect. Electrify it if necessary! Sorry bro!
OzExorcist
Broomcorn's uncle
Bronze Level
Not sure I understand... you've got your two "high" cards face up, did you never turn your other two cards over?
You have to show all four to claim any part of the pot anyway so why not just turn all four up? How did the other two end up in the muck?
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nlcatter
Rising Star
Bronze Level
why dont you pay attention, 4 cards
had placing 2 face up for high up first on right
and in middle of placing 2 low cards (3 5) for possible low hand on the left
and DEaler said WAIT , since he was trying to figure out who had the SIde poT!
had placing 2 face up for high up first on right
and in middle of placing 2 low cards (3 5) for possible low hand on the left
and DEaler said WAIT , since he was trying to figure out who had the SIde poT!
OzExorcist
Broomcorn's uncle
Bronze Level
In any Omaha game, just turn all four of your cards over at once and let the dealer sort it out. No need to get cute arranging them into the high and low cards or anything, you're going to have to show them all anyway.
And since you need to show all four to claim any part of the pot (same as you need to show two cards to claim any part of the pot in NLHE) it's standard that if two of your four cards get mucked (even if it's no fault of your own) and they can't be retrieved then your whole hand gets killed.
And since you need to show all four to claim any part of the pot (same as you need to show two cards to claim any part of the pot in NLHE) it's standard that if two of your four cards get mucked (even if it's no fault of your own) and they can't be retrieved then your whole hand gets killed.