Logan2
Legend
Silver Level
Some standard some spew, 4k hands so it will take some time for review.
3 of them, hand 3 maybe could bet flop but still don´t think change much, never folding because lot of times will see lower flush or trips
poker stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
BTN: $7.53
SB: $4.87
BB: $2.50
UTG: $2.48
UTG+1: $5.75
UTG+2: $5.02
MP1: $2.67 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 17, 3B: 2, AF: 1.5, Hands: 398
Hero (MP2): $5.00
CO: $5.58
Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is MP2 with 3
3
3 folds, MP1 raises to $0.17, Hero calls $0.17, 4 folds
Flop: ($0.41) 3
4
6
(2 players)
MP1 bets $0.30, Hero raises to $0.94, MP1 raises to $2.50, Hero calls $1.56
Turn: ($5.41) T
(2 players)
River: ($5.41) K
(2 players)
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Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
BTN: $5.00
SB: $5.02
BB: $7.64
UTG: $5.65
Hero (UTG+1): $5.00
UTG+2: $10.41 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 14, 3B: 6, AF: 8.0, Hands: 111
MP1: $1.18
MP2: $5.61
CO: $4.64
Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is UTG+1 with K
K
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.15, UTG+2 raises to $0.50, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.50, 4 folds, Hero raises to $5, UTG+2 raises to $9.50, 1 fold
Flop: ($10.57) 5
J
3
(2 players)
Turn: ($10.57) 3
(2 players)
River: ($10.57) 7
(2 players)
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Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
BTN: $5.42
SB: $18.89
BB: $0.58
UTG: $10.14 - VPIP: 52, PFR: 26, 3B: 9, AF: 1.5, Hands: 23
UTG+1: $1.63
UTG+2: $1.64
MP1: $6.47
MP2: $4.89
Hero (CO): $5.72
Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is CO with Q
A
UTG raises to $0.10, 3 folds, MP2 raises to $0.20, Hero raises to $0.51, 3 folds, UTG calls $0.41, MP2 calls $0.31
Flop: ($1.60) 9
5
J
(3 players)
UTG checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks
Turn: ($1.60) 9
(3 players)
UTG checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets $1.15, UTG raises to $2.30, MP2 folds, Hero raises to $5.21, UTG calls $2.91
River: ($12.02) 2
(2 players)
3 of them, hand 3 maybe could bet flop but still don´t think change much, never folding because lot of times will see lower flush or trips
poker stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
BTN: $7.53
SB: $4.87
BB: $2.50
UTG: $2.48
UTG+1: $5.75
UTG+2: $5.02
MP1: $2.67 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 17, 3B: 2, AF: 1.5, Hands: 398
Hero (MP2): $5.00
CO: $5.58
Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is MP2 with 3
3 folds, MP1 raises to $0.17, Hero calls $0.17, 4 folds
Flop: ($0.41) 3
MP1 bets $0.30, Hero raises to $0.94, MP1 raises to $2.50, Hero calls $1.56
Turn: ($5.41) T
River: ($5.41) K
Final Pot: $5.41
MP1 shows K
K
Hero shows 3
3
MP1 wins $5.19
(Rake: $0.22)
MP1 shows K
Hero shows 3
MP1 wins $5.19
(Rake: $0.22)
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Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
BTN: $5.00
SB: $5.02
BB: $7.64
UTG: $5.65
Hero (UTG+1): $5.00
UTG+2: $10.41 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 14, 3B: 6, AF: 8.0, Hands: 111
MP1: $1.18
MP2: $5.61
CO: $4.64
Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is UTG+1 with K
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.15, UTG+2 raises to $0.50, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.50, 4 folds, Hero raises to $5, UTG+2 raises to $9.50, 1 fold
Flop: ($10.57) 5
Turn: ($10.57) 3
River: ($10.57) 7
Final Pot: $10.57
Hero shows K
K
UTG+2 shows A
A
UTG+2 wins $10.13
(Rake: $0.44)
Hero shows K
UTG+2 shows A
UTG+2 wins $10.13
(Rake: $0.44)
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Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
BTN: $5.42
SB: $18.89
BB: $0.58
UTG: $10.14 - VPIP: 52, PFR: 26, 3B: 9, AF: 1.5, Hands: 23
UTG+1: $1.63
UTG+2: $1.64
MP1: $6.47
MP2: $4.89
Hero (CO): $5.72
Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is CO with Q
UTG raises to $0.10, 3 folds, MP2 raises to $0.20, Hero raises to $0.51, 3 folds, UTG calls $0.41, MP2 calls $0.31
Flop: ($1.60) 9
UTG checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks
Turn: ($1.60) 9
UTG checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets $1.15, UTG raises to $2.30, MP2 folds, Hero raises to $5.21, UTG calls $2.91
River: ($12.02) 2
Final Pot: $12.02
UTG shows 9
J
Hero shows Q
A
UTG wins $11.52
(Rake: $0.50)
UTG shows 9
Hero shows Q
UTG wins $11.52
(Rake: $0.50)
TheKid84
Legend
Silver Level
I respectively disagree (but I'm not good, so take that with a grain of salt...). I don't think betting there is ideal, especially your position against two others. After that flop, you're really hoping someone is holding the K high flush draw (maybe KJ or something like that), and hopefully they're able to hit it. Them flopping 2 pair also is nice, but very unfortunate that they hit their 4 outer on ya. The outcome would have been the same regardless on how you played Hand 3. Checking the flop provides you that option to let them either try and steal the pot, attempt at a semi bluff draw bet, or hit a hand (maybe A9 suited) that could put you in a nice position to cash nicely. It's just unfortunate he hit his best possible outcome. (again, I'm not the brightest crayon in the box, but there's my two cents)
Logan2
Legend
Silver Level
3 more
H5 i think should bet less on turn like $1.20 and considering villain stats probably should fold river
because a 9/7 not gona call from utg with less than AK or PP which mean i will be beat here mostly.
other 2, well KK was a kill
H4
Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
BTN: $2.20
SB: $10.44
BB: $9.73
UTG: $7.86 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 10, 3B: 5, AF: 4.7, Hands: 263
UTG+1: $4.28
UTG+2: $6.44
MP1: $5.99
MP2: $4.54
Hero (CO): $5.00
Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is CO with K
K
UTG raises to $0.20, 4 folds, Hero raises to $0.60, 3 folds, UTG raises to $1.65, Hero raises to $5, UTG calls $3.35
Flop: ($10.07) J
Q
6
(2 players)
Turn: ($10.07) 7
(2 players)
River: ($10.07) 3
(2 players)
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H5
Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
BTN: $6.11
SB: $6.44
BB: $2.37
Hero (UTG): $6.22 - VPIP: 14, PFR: 11, 3B: 3, AF: 2.9, Hands: 96258
UTG+1: $5.72 - VPIP: 9, PFR: 7, 3B: 3, AF: 2.2, Hands: 382
UTG+2: $8.79
MP1: $13.59
MP2: $7.18
CO: $2.31
Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is UTG with Q
A
Hero raises to $0.18, UTG+1 calls $0.18, 6 folds, BB calls $0.13
Flop: ($0.56) K
5
A
(3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.44, UTG+1 calls $0.44, BB calls $0.44
Turn: ($1.88) 2
(3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.80, UTG+1 calls $1.80, BB folds
River: ($5.48) 5
(2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $2.60, Hero calls $2.60
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H6
Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
BTN: $4.92
SB: $8.91
BB: $5.00
UTG: $3.53
UTG+1: $5.25
UTG+2: $5.17
Hero (MP1): $5.19
MP2: $7.37
CO: $4.64 - VPIP: 39, PFR: 33, 3B: 17, AF: Infinity, Hands: 18
Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is MP1 with K
K
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, 1 fold, CO raises to $0.25, 3 folds, Hero raises to $5.19, CO calls $4.39 all in
Flop: ($9.35) A
8
2
(2 players - 1 is all in)
Turn: ($9.35) T
(2 players - 1 is all in)
River: ($9.35) A
(2 players - 1 is all in)
Final Pot: $9.35
Hero shows K
K
CO shows A
5
CO wins $8.96
(Rake: $-0.16)
H5 i think should bet less on turn like $1.20 and considering villain stats probably should fold river
because a 9/7 not gona call from utg with less than AK or PP which mean i will be beat here mostly.
other 2, well KK was a kill
H4
Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
BTN: $2.20
SB: $10.44
BB: $9.73
UTG: $7.86 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 10, 3B: 5, AF: 4.7, Hands: 263
UTG+1: $4.28
UTG+2: $6.44
MP1: $5.99
MP2: $4.54
Hero (CO): $5.00
Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is CO with K
UTG raises to $0.20, 4 folds, Hero raises to $0.60, 3 folds, UTG raises to $1.65, Hero raises to $5, UTG calls $3.35
Flop: ($10.07) J
Turn: ($10.07) 7
River: ($10.07) 3
Final Pot: $10.07
UTG shows A
A
Hero mucks K
K
UTG wins $9.65
(Rake: $0.42)
UTG shows A
Hero mucks K
UTG wins $9.65
(Rake: $0.42)
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H5
Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
BTN: $6.11
SB: $6.44
BB: $2.37
Hero (UTG): $6.22 - VPIP: 14, PFR: 11, 3B: 3, AF: 2.9, Hands: 96258
UTG+1: $5.72 - VPIP: 9, PFR: 7, 3B: 3, AF: 2.2, Hands: 382
UTG+2: $8.79
MP1: $13.59
MP2: $7.18
CO: $2.31
Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is UTG with Q
Hero raises to $0.18, UTG+1 calls $0.18, 6 folds, BB calls $0.13
Flop: ($0.56) K
BB checks, Hero bets $0.44, UTG+1 calls $0.44, BB calls $0.44
Turn: ($1.88) 2
BB checks, Hero bets $1.80, UTG+1 calls $1.80, BB folds
River: ($5.48) 5
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $2.60, Hero calls $2.60
Final Pot: $10.68
Hero mucks Q
A
UTG+1 shows A
K
UTG+1 wins $10.24
(Rake: $0.44)
Hero mucks Q
UTG+1 shows A
UTG+1 wins $10.24
(Rake: $0.44)
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H6
Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
BTN: $4.92
SB: $8.91
BB: $5.00
UTG: $3.53
UTG+1: $5.25
UTG+2: $5.17
Hero (MP1): $5.19
MP2: $7.37
CO: $4.64 - VPIP: 39, PFR: 33, 3B: 17, AF: Infinity, Hands: 18
Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is MP1 with K
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, 1 fold, CO raises to $0.25, 3 folds, Hero raises to $5.19, CO calls $4.39 all in
Flop: ($9.35) A
Turn: ($9.35) T
River: ($9.35) A
Final Pot: $9.35
Hero shows K
CO shows A
CO wins $8.96
(Rake: $-0.16)
S
ScottishMatt
Legend
Silver Level
Thinking more on this. I feel the absolute best line to take is bet/check/bet.
We GII vs 2P/sets/flushes
We extract from his Ks and give him a free chance to hit
We are also pretty much guaranteed two streets vs his Jx so long as the draw doesn't come in.
Overall, the hands that are going to GII vs us are hands that we don't lose any value from by checking turn because we are already all in by that point. We could go bet/bet for turn and river but a turn check lets his draws get there and makes our river valuebet look like a bluff to his Jx. In fact we may even GII on the river with this line if he spikes two pair with his Jx.
Edit - This is for H3, I'll look at the others now.
Others are pretty standard. H5, it seems like a X/C might be best on that turn, looks to be the only way you can extract value from AJ. Problem is river would then have to be a X/F and he can value river with AQ. Overall a tough spot. I probably would have fired turn too but seeing as I have the liberty of criticizing here where it is easy I'll say X/C turn and X/F river. If the flush comes in you get to showdown vs his hands that beat you, if it doesn't then AJ is too thin for a player like this to valuebet, in which case you know to fold river vs his valuebet.
We GII vs 2P/sets/flushes
We extract from his Ks and give him a free chance to hit
We are also pretty much guaranteed two streets vs his Jx so long as the draw doesn't come in.
Overall, the hands that are going to GII vs us are hands that we don't lose any value from by checking turn because we are already all in by that point. We could go bet/bet for turn and river but a turn check lets his draws get there and makes our river valuebet look like a bluff to his Jx. In fact we may even GII on the river with this line if he spikes two pair with his Jx.
Edit - This is for H3, I'll look at the others now.
Others are pretty standard. H5, it seems like a X/C might be best on that turn, looks to be the only way you can extract value from AJ. Problem is river would then have to be a X/F and he can value river with AQ. Overall a tough spot. I probably would have fired turn too but seeing as I have the liberty of criticizing here where it is easy I'll say X/C turn and X/F river. If the flush comes in you get to showdown vs his hands that beat you, if it doesn't then AJ is too thin for a player like this to valuebet, in which case you know to fold river vs his valuebet.
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Logan2
Legend
Silver Level
Need to get out so only 2 more, i think this are spew
H7maybe should fold to flop raise but was min- and FD there so think he was on a draw and get on trouble because of that, on turn with 2 FD i just jam, the other hand well at that point was fish again.
Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
BTN: $9.30
SB: $8.76
BB: $3.85 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 10, 3B: 14, AF: 3.0, Hands: 21
UTG: $1.02
Hero (UTG+1): $5.00
UTG+2: $3.98
MP1: $11.30
MP2: $8.03
CO: $6.97
Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is UTG+1 with K
A
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.15, UTG+2 calls $0.15, 5 folds, BB calls $0.10
Flop: ($0.47) J
K
2
(3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.38, UTG+2 folds, BB raises to $0.76, Hero calls $0.38
Turn: ($1.99) K
(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4.09, BB calls $2.94 all in
River: ($7.87) 2
(2 players - 1 is all in)
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Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
BTN: $1.79 - VPIP: 26, PFR: 12, 3B: 4, AF: 3.3, Hands: 50
SB: $4.27
BB: $5.00
Hero (UTG): $5.39
UTG+1: $5.14 -
UTG+2: $2.62 -
MP1: $4.29 -
MP2: $5.03 -
CO: $8.76 -
Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is UTG with A
A
Hero raises to $0.20, 3 folds, MP2 calls $0.20, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.20, 2 folds
Flop: ($0.67) 7
J
2
(3 players)
Hero bets $0.42, MP2 folds, BTN raises to $0.84, Hero raises to $5.19, BTN calls $0.75 all in
Turn: ($3.85) K
(2 players - 1 is all in)
River: ($3.85) 5
(2 players - 1 is all in)
H7maybe should fold to flop raise but was min- and FD there so think he was on a draw and get on trouble because of that, on turn with 2 FD i just jam, the other hand well at that point was fish again.
Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
BTN: $9.30
SB: $8.76
BB: $3.85 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 10, 3B: 14, AF: 3.0, Hands: 21
UTG: $1.02
Hero (UTG+1): $5.00
UTG+2: $3.98
MP1: $11.30
MP2: $8.03
CO: $6.97
Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is UTG+1 with K
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.15, UTG+2 calls $0.15, 5 folds, BB calls $0.10
Flop: ($0.47) J
BB checks, Hero bets $0.38, UTG+2 folds, BB raises to $0.76, Hero calls $0.38
Turn: ($1.99) K
BB checks, Hero bets $4.09, BB calls $2.94 all in
River: ($7.87) 2
Final Pot: $7.87
BB shows 2
2
Hero shows K
A
BB wins $7.54
(Rake: $0.33)
BB shows 2
Hero shows K
BB wins $7.54
(Rake: $0.33)
Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
BTN: $1.79 - VPIP: 26, PFR: 12, 3B: 4, AF: 3.3, Hands: 50
SB: $4.27
BB: $5.00
Hero (UTG): $5.39
UTG+1: $5.14 -
UTG+2: $2.62 -
MP1: $4.29 -
MP2: $5.03 -
CO: $8.76 -
Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is UTG with A
Hero raises to $0.20, 3 folds, MP2 calls $0.20, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.20, 2 folds
Flop: ($0.67) 7
Hero bets $0.42, MP2 folds, BTN raises to $0.84, Hero raises to $5.19, BTN calls $0.75 all in
Turn: ($3.85) K
River: ($3.85) 5
Final Pot: $3.85
BTN shows 7
7
Hero shows A
A
BTN wins $3.69
(Rake: $0.16)
BTN shows 7
Hero shows A
BTN wins $3.69
(Rake: $0.16)
B
bnasp2
Visionary
Silver Level
Because it seems like very profitable call.
Logan2
Legend
Silver Level
No more poker for today, still card dead and nothing is working at the time.
The 2 hands are standard i think but the problem is that can´t figure it out what i´m doing wrong because after 20k hands on zoom still BE/losing.
Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
Hero (BTN): $5.00
SB: $3.19
BB: $1.41 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 16, 3B: 29, AF: NaN, Hands: 19
UTG: $3.91
UTG+1: $6.84 - VPIP: 60, PFR: 60, 3B: 100, AF: NaN, Hands: 5
UTG+2: $5.86
MP1: $7.84
MP2: $4.93
CO: $4.12
Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BTN with A
K
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.25, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.25, 1 fold, BB raises to $1.41, UTG+1 calls $1.16, Hero raises to $5, UTG+1 calls $3.59
Flop: ($11.43) A
T
9
(3 players)
Turn: ($11.43) T
(3 players)
River: ($11.43) 2
(3 players)
Final Pot: $11.43
Hero shows A
K
BB shows K
J
UTG+1 shows T
A
UTG+1 wins $4.07
(Rake: $0.47)
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Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
BTN: $2.75
SB: $5.02
BB: $6.37
UTG: $5.70 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 13, 3B: 0, AF: 1.1, Hands: 162
UTG+1: $2.52
Hero (UTG+2): $5.35
MP1: $11.43 - VPIP: 14, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 1.0, Hands: 14
MP2: $6.24 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 17, 3B: 5, AF: 3.5, Hands: 54
CO: $5.12 - VPIP: 12, PFR: 10, 3B: 4, AF: Infinity, Hands: 117
Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is UTG+2 with 7
7
UTG raises to $0.12, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.12, 6 folds
Flop: ($0.31) 3
6
7
(2 players)
UTG bets $0.20, Hero raises to $0.62, UTG raises to $5.58, Hero calls $4.61 all in
Turn: ($10.77) Q
(2 players - 1 is all in)
River: ($10.77) A
(2 players - 1 is all in)
Final Pot: $10.77
UTG shows T
9
Hero shows 7
7
UTG wins $9.97
(Rake: $0.45)
It looks like not making huge mistakes but still can´t win, i know looks like variance but the worst of all is that ev line says i´m running huge over ev!
This mean that the 5bi up day was a heater and the BE- losing days should be even worst than now which is soul crushing . :-/
Graph for today and so far on zoom.
The 2 hands are standard i think but the problem is that can´t figure it out what i´m doing wrong because after 20k hands on zoom still BE/losing.
Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
Hero (BTN): $5.00
SB: $3.19
BB: $1.41 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 16, 3B: 29, AF: NaN, Hands: 19
UTG: $3.91
UTG+1: $6.84 - VPIP: 60, PFR: 60, 3B: 100, AF: NaN, Hands: 5
UTG+2: $5.86
MP1: $7.84
MP2: $4.93
CO: $4.12
Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BTN with A
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.25, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.25, 1 fold, BB raises to $1.41, UTG+1 calls $1.16, Hero raises to $5, UTG+1 calls $3.59
Flop: ($11.43) A
Turn: ($11.43) T
River: ($11.43) 2
Final Pot: $11.43
Hero shows A
BB shows K
UTG+1 shows T
UTG+1 wins $4.07
(Rake: $0.47)
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Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
BTN: $2.75
SB: $5.02
BB: $6.37
UTG: $5.70 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 13, 3B: 0, AF: 1.1, Hands: 162
UTG+1: $2.52
Hero (UTG+2): $5.35
MP1: $11.43 - VPIP: 14, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 1.0, Hands: 14
MP2: $6.24 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 17, 3B: 5, AF: 3.5, Hands: 54
CO: $5.12 - VPIP: 12, PFR: 10, 3B: 4, AF: Infinity, Hands: 117
Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is UTG+2 with 7
UTG raises to $0.12, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.12, 6 folds
Flop: ($0.31) 3
UTG bets $0.20, Hero raises to $0.62, UTG raises to $5.58, Hero calls $4.61 all in
Turn: ($10.77) Q
River: ($10.77) A
Final Pot: $10.77
UTG shows T
Hero shows 7
UTG wins $9.97
(Rake: $0.45)
It looks like not making huge mistakes but still can´t win, i know looks like variance but the worst of all is that ev line says i´m running huge over ev!
This mean that the 5bi up day was a heater and the BE- losing days should be even worst than now which is soul crushing . :-/
Graph for today and so far on zoom.
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Logan2
Legend
Silver Level
Thanks Honey & Acky
The most important part for me is that this is 5nl, so i think i´m doing something wrong because if can´t win there i will not win on any higher level.
So i will keep playing there at least until reach the 50k hands , BR still ok but i need to figure how to win because i hate to be losing and most of all is the feeling that this is my fault.
If was just variance/bad luck then ev line should look going up and green down, but this is not the case, ev line is also down, so is not just running bad it means i´m playing bad, i just can´t see it.
The most important part for me is that this is 5nl, so i think i´m doing something wrong because if can´t win there i will not win on any higher level.
So i will keep playing there at least until reach the 50k hands , BR still ok but i need to figure how to win because i hate to be losing and most of all is the feeling that this is my fault.
If was just variance/bad luck then ev line should look going up and green down, but this is not the case, ev line is also down, so is not just running bad it means i´m playing bad, i just can´t see it.
Jackle43
Visionary
Silver Level
I feel as though with the constant graph posts and results posts you may a bit too results orientated. This is something I struggle with still but have become better at it. I use to veiw the cashier all the time! and since I have stopped that and try not to care if I played the hand in a way that I thought was profitable, the results shouldnt matter. I think being graph and results orientated hurts your game in ways you dont notice e.g getting in hands you wouldnt normally be in to try and push the tempo of bankroll building or winning back losses, I know this happens for me and it hurts.
I know we all want the Nanonoko graph but I think looking at results constantly is -EV.
sorry for the rant just my oppinion.
GL Logan I know you can crush 5nl alot more then me
I know we all want the Nanonoko graph but I think looking at results constantly is -EV.
sorry for the rant just my oppinion.
GL Logan I know you can crush 5nl alot more then me
vinylspiros
PIRANHA-------->< (((º>
Silver Level
Although i could not agree with your post more. looking constantly at graphs and results is not good for your game while playing, Logan here is just posting his progress and sharing with us how he is going. hes not result oriented. hes just analysing what went down during his sessions,which is, why this thread was made.
But yes, i do agree with what you said about not looking at the cashier all the time.
Jackle43
Visionary
Silver Level
I agree and im the first person to look at graphs, wich i think hurts my game. And I veiw this thread every day because it is a good thread, but I have noticed their is more graphs then hands to talk about, and that leads me to believe that Logan may be valuing himself on how high the graph goes instead of "did I play this hand profitable?"
Im not attacking Logan just trying to help.
vinylspiros
PIRANHA-------->< (((º>
Silver Level
oh yea sure man.
you are making a great point though in general.i myself try to avoid doing this while in a session but always fail.
Logan2
Legend
Silver Level
Agree with you Jackle. Not about the cashier thing, i never looking on my cashier when playing. I look the cashier when log in to see if my money still there (because i´m always expecting to enter and see is gone, kind of paranoic i know) and then look at the end of the day, even if play 2 or 3 different sessions on a day never look on the cashier until day is over.
But i do agree that posting Graphs daily is a bad idea because even when helps to keep me motivated (which was the main point of the thread) it also put presure on me.
Probably better if only post graphs on 10k hands or something. So next one will be when reach 30k, also will try to post position stats by then.
But i do agree that posting Graphs daily is a bad idea because even when helps to keep me motivated (which was the main point of the thread) it also put presure on me.
Probably better if only post graphs on 10k hands or something. So next one will be when reach 30k, also will try to post position stats by then.
Logan2
Legend
Silver Level
Late session, unsure about this 2
4 hands on villain so no stats
can´t discard a set, i have a blocker for a FD or a backdoor FD if not, AA/KK he probably 4b pre with BB calling. So, i put him on a set, TT-JJ or a draw.
Not a fist pump call but is a call right?.
Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
BTN: $5.00
SB: $6.45
BB: $14.52
UTG: $4.26
UTG+1: $12.95
UTG+2: $5.02
MP1: $6.97
MP2: $8.66
Hero (CO): $5.23
Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is CO with Q
Q
UTG raises to $0.20, 4 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, 2 folds, BB calls $0.45, UTG calls $0.30
Flop: ($1.52) 9
2
7
(3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $3.76, Hero ??
---------------------------
Do i shove river, raise or just call?, Villain AF is low (1) so i don´t think he is bluffing here, any TX is on his range which we beat but can´t discard a boat.
Not sure if he would do this with just 2 pairs? (PP), so best line considering we are deep (effective stacks almost 200 bb´s)
Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
BTN: $10.70 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 13, 3B: 4, AF: 1.0, Hands: 271
SB: $5.00
BB: $3.82
UTG: $7.28
UTG+1: $2.48
Hero (UTG+2): $9.61
MP1: $2.75
MP2: $5.72
CO: $3.00
Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is UTG+2 with A
T
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, 3 folds, BTN calls $0.15, 2 folds
Flop: ($0.37) 2
4
T
(2 players)
Hero bets $0.21, BTN calls $0.21
Turn: ($0.79) T
(2 players)
Hero bets $0.57, BTN calls $0.57
River: ($1.93) 5
(2 players)
Hero bets $1.01, BTN raises to $3.35, Hero ??
4 hands on villain so no stats
can´t discard a set, i have a blocker for a FD or a backdoor FD if not, AA/KK he probably 4b pre with BB calling. So, i put him on a set, TT-JJ or a draw.
Not a fist pump call but is a call right?.
Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
BTN: $5.00
SB: $6.45
BB: $14.52
UTG: $4.26
UTG+1: $12.95
UTG+2: $5.02
MP1: $6.97
MP2: $8.66
Hero (CO): $5.23
Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is CO with Q
UTG raises to $0.20, 4 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, 2 folds, BB calls $0.45, UTG calls $0.30
Flop: ($1.52) 9
BB checks, UTG bets $3.76, Hero ??
---------------------------
Do i shove river, raise or just call?, Villain AF is low (1) so i don´t think he is bluffing here, any TX is on his range which we beat but can´t discard a boat.
Not sure if he would do this with just 2 pairs? (PP), so best line considering we are deep (effective stacks almost 200 bb´s)
Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
BTN: $10.70 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 13, 3B: 4, AF: 1.0, Hands: 271
SB: $5.00
BB: $3.82
UTG: $7.28
UTG+1: $2.48
Hero (UTG+2): $9.61
MP1: $2.75
MP2: $5.72
CO: $3.00
Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is UTG+2 with A
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, 3 folds, BTN calls $0.15, 2 folds
Flop: ($0.37) 2
Hero bets $0.21, BTN calls $0.21
Turn: ($0.79) T
Hero bets $0.57, BTN calls $0.57
River: ($1.93) 5
Hero bets $1.01, BTN raises to $3.35, Hero ??
Jackle43
Visionary
Silver Level
Late session, unsure about this 2
Do i shove river, raise or just call?, Villain AF is low (1) so i don´t think he is bluffing here, any TX is on his range which we beat but can´t discard a boat.
Not sure if he would do this with just 2 pairs? (PP), so best line considering we are deep (effective stacks almost 200 bb´s)
Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
BTN: $10.70 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 13, 3B: 4, AF: 1.0, Hands: 271
SB: $5.00
BB: $3.82
UTG: $7.28
UTG+1: $2.48
Hero (UTG+2): $9.61
MP1: $2.75
MP2: $5.72
CO: $3.00
Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is UTG+2 with AT
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, 3 folds, BTN calls $0.15, 2 folds
Flop: ($0.37) 24T(2 players)
Hero bets $0.21, BTN calls $0.21
Turn: ($0.79) T(2 players)
Hero bets $0.57, BTN calls $0.57
River: ($1.93) 5(2 players)
Hero bets $1.01, BTN raises to $3.35, Hero ??
Im probably just calling, you say hes kinda passive so he could be filled up
Logan2
Legend
Silver Level
I just call and guy show 95clubs, so wonder if raising could be a option there but we are so deep. And not sure we get many calls unless is a lower trips or a boat. But i don´t know.
Been fine last couple days, doing some progress, only change was to cut 1 table to 3, which is like 12-tabling normal tables, 4 was like 16-tabling but probably was too much.
Also trying to ignore my stats and focus more on others players stats to try to play accordingly and is fine so far.
Yesterday reach Silver status which is nice for 5nl.
Been fine last couple days, doing some progress, only change was to cut 1 table to 3, which is like 12-tabling normal tables, 4 was like 16-tabling but probably was too much.
Also trying to ignore my stats and focus more on others players stats to try to play accordingly and is fine so far.
Yesterday reach Silver status which is nice for 5nl.
Logan2
Legend
Silver Level
First i need to agree that Zoom is harder than regular tables, people is playing nuts poker most of the time because can fold everything else fast,
also because can load higher volume lot of grinders there, but this probably gona help to improve and is the only way for me to reach any decent volume, so can´t complain.
This week volume was little less because the cut to 3 tables, but having couple seconds more to think on each hand probably compensate.
After the first 20k hands things start to go better and last 10k hands help to end with a positive month. WR still low but is going in the right direction.
Numbers for 5nl Zoom on May.
Days played: 16
Total hands : 30,037
Total WinRate: 3.38bb/100
Last 10k hands WR: 9.35bb/100
Biggest losing day: 8bi´s (4062 hands)
Biggest winning day: 5bi´s (2257 hands)
I don´t think can reach the 50k hands/month planned for june because with 3 tables can barely load 1.5k hands/day but 40k hands/month could be a option.
This mean at end of june will have around 70,000 hands on 5nl zoom. Probably enough by then to see if can move up.
Logan2
Legend
Silver Level
Want to keep working on some leaks so here are some position stats so far, i know 30k hands are small example but still i think can get something positive on this to work with.
I take out Vpip/PFR because not want to change my ranges (just modify ranges last 10k hands so still working on that).
bb/100: i think i´m bleading $ from blinds more than normal, CO also needs work, rest look ok i think.
3b: I start working on 3b more on Btn and is working so far, need to work on 3b more on CO now.
F3b: Too high, 86/82 Co/Btn probably mean i´m folding to Sb/BB resteals right?, what range should be looking on here?, at least the 70% like other positions?.
CB & FCB: i think are fine in general maybe 60 is not optimal for FCB but trying to avoid get in marginal spots?.
Now the other points that want to focus this month are steals, i think on Zoom are even more important.
Steal from Btn been improving lately but still unsure to how high need to go, some mention 50% but looks too much to me, 40-45% should be fine i think?.
Co needs a lot of work same for Sb, and BB fold vs Sb steal is probably a big reason why losing so much on BB.
Could post more stats but probably better to focus on this for now. I start reading John A. Book on blinds play chapter should help for sure.
So goals for next 10k hands is to focus on improve CO/BB/SB on steals and 3b.
Thoughts.
I take out Vpip/PFR because not want to change my ranges (just modify ranges last 10k hands so still working on that).
bb/100: i think i´m bleading $ from blinds more than normal, CO also needs work, rest look ok i think.
3b: I start working on 3b more on Btn and is working so far, need to work on 3b more on CO now.
F3b: Too high, 86/82 Co/Btn probably mean i´m folding to Sb/BB resteals right?, what range should be looking on here?, at least the 70% like other positions?.
CB & FCB: i think are fine in general maybe 60 is not optimal for FCB but trying to avoid get in marginal spots?.
Now the other points that want to focus this month are steals, i think on Zoom are even more important.
Steal from Btn been improving lately but still unsure to how high need to go, some mention 50% but looks too much to me, 40-45% should be fine i think?.
Co needs a lot of work same for Sb, and BB fold vs Sb steal is probably a big reason why losing so much on BB.
Could post more stats but probably better to focus on this for now. I start reading John A. Book on blinds play chapter should help for sure.
So goals for next 10k hands is to focus on improve CO/BB/SB on steals and 3b.
Thoughts.