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A9ofHearts
Visionary
Silver Level
I thought they only did that at the micro stakes lol
pocketehs
Legend
Silver Level
made a royal today...
PokerStars - $0.16 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (MP): $36.74
CO: $23.07 (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 27.27, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, hands: 47)
BTN: $14.16 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
SB: $15.23 (VPIP: 24.00, PFR: 6.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 52)
BB: $6.93 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
UTG: $24.77 (VPIP: 24.39, PFR: 21.95, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 87)
SB posts SB $0.08, BB posts BB $0.16
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.24) Hero has J:heart: J:club:
fold, Hero raises to $0.48, fold, BTN raises to $0.80, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.32
Flop: ($1.84, 2 players) K:spade: J:spade: T:spade:
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.48, Hero raises to $2.88, BTN calls $2.40
Turn: ($7.60, 2 players) Q:spade:
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.28, Hero calls $1.28
River: ($10.16, 2 players) A:spade:
Hero checks, BTN checks
Hero shows J:heart: J:club: (Royal Flush) (Pre 65%, Flop 85%, Turn 33%)
BTN shows A:diamond: J:diamond: (Royal Flush) (Pre 35%, Flop 15%, Turn 67%)
Hero wins $4.85
BTN wins $4.85
PokerStars - $0.16 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (MP): $36.74
CO: $23.07 (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 27.27, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, hands: 47)
BTN: $14.16 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
SB: $15.23 (VPIP: 24.00, PFR: 6.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 52)
BB: $6.93 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
UTG: $24.77 (VPIP: 24.39, PFR: 21.95, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 87)
SB posts SB $0.08, BB posts BB $0.16
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.24) Hero has J:heart: J:club:
fold, Hero raises to $0.48, fold, BTN raises to $0.80, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.32
Flop: ($1.84, 2 players) K:spade: J:spade: T:spade:
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.48, Hero raises to $2.88, BTN calls $2.40
Turn: ($7.60, 2 players) Q:spade:
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.28, Hero calls $1.28
River: ($10.16, 2 players) A:spade:
Hero checks, BTN checks
Hero shows J:heart: J:club: (Royal Flush) (Pre 65%, Flop 85%, Turn 33%)
BTN shows A:diamond: J:diamond: (Royal Flush) (Pre 35%, Flop 15%, Turn 67%)
Hero wins $4.85
BTN wins $4.85
pocketehs
Legend
Silver Level
is anyone that retarded Matt? plus then i have to pay more rake.
hackmeplz
Sleep Faster
Silver Level
Only in poker. My good things in life are all skill.
Matt Vaughan
King of Moody Rants
Bronze Level
Well I have no idea of the rake structure. He's talking about getting raked significantly more, but if there was even a small % of a chance of a misclick or something such that the EV of betting was > cost of the extra rake then it would still be correct to shove. So whether the pot gets capped at some amount matters.
JOEBOB69
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
Deco
Legend
Silver Level
If only there was a site that caps the rake in $10 pots 
. Rakes usually capped at $3 at 5% a little less on stars. It's not till your looking at $60 pots that rake begins to be capped.
Shoving that river is pretty much donating 50c to stars.
. Rakes usually capped at $3 at 5% a little less on stars. It's not till your looking at $60 pots that rake begins to be capped.Shoving that river is pretty much donating 50c to stars.
JOEBOB69
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
I have no idea what the rake is on stars. I see they have already took .46. So ...If only there was a site that caps the rake in $10 pots
Shoving that river is pretty much donating 50c to stars.
WVHillbilly
Legend
Silver Level
So you'd rather they take $1.25 than .50?
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Matt Vaughan
King of Moody Rants
Bronze Level
Assume we check:
EV = (1/2 pot size) = $5.08
Assume we jam:
EV = (% he folds)x(potsize) + (1 - % he folds)x(1/2 potsize - 45c)
So if we want the EV for the jam to be at least $5.08 we need him to fold at least 8.14%. I'll admit that % seems fairly implausible, but it's still pretty low. Not something where I feel like I would have been comfortable calling it one way or the other without doing some numbers.
EV = (1/2 pot size) = $5.08
Assume we jam:
EV = (% he folds)x(potsize) + (1 - % he folds)x(1/2 potsize - 45c)
So if we want the EV for the jam to be at least $5.08 we need him to fold at least 8.14%. I'll admit that % seems fairly implausible, but it's still pretty low. Not something where I feel like I would have been comfortable calling it one way or the other without doing some numbers.
Ducky7
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
bs you are over estimating skill and under estimating life variance imo
WVHillbilly
Legend
Silver Level
It's not zero but people misclick what once in a thousand hands? Not nearly enough.
xdeucesx
Bar Master
Silver Level
I was just trolling
Thoughts on a new form of teh pokerz to learn?
John suggested some Badugi to me last month so going to try and dig up some basic material on it, other suggestions are welcome!
Don't waste your time learning a new game for like 3 weeks, get burned out, then come back to nl holdem
Skip the whole process and stick with nl
Unless you want to play PLO....
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ScottishMatt
Legend
Silver Level
NL is unbeatable at the moment! I just get my ass crushed every hand.
Besides I'm not looking to stop playing NL, just use another form of poker to mess around with when I need a session break. Thought about PLO but the whole rake>everyone just makes it seem unplausible unless I could afford to learn at like 100NL+.
Besides I'm not looking to stop playing NL, just use another form of poker to mess around with when I need a session break. Thought about PLO but the whole rake>everyone just makes it seem unplausible unless I could afford to learn at like 100NL+.
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