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[WVHillbilly]

yeah it was monoxide

 

[hackmeplz]

So yeah if people weren't aware I'm not a huge fan of folding to preflop 4-bets.

Hero (BTN): $200.00
SB: $295.85
BB: $703.92
UTG: $289.40
MP: $51.02
CO: $286.80

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BTN with 8:club: 6:club:
2 folds, CO raises to $6, Hero raises to $17, 1 fold, BB raises to $35, 1 fold, Hero calls $18

Flop: ($77.00) 7:spade: 5:club: K:heart: (2 players)
BB bets $38, Hero calls $38

Turn: ($153.00) 3:diamond: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($153.00) J:heart: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $44, BB folds

Final Pot: $153.00
Hero mucks 8:club: 6:club:
Hero wins $150.20
(Rake: $2.80)

 

[redwards92]

So yeah if people weren't aware I'm not a huge fan of folding to preflop 4-bets.

Hero (BTN): $200.00
SB: $295.85
BB: $703.92
UTG: $289.40
MP: $51.02
CO: $286.80

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BTN with 8♣ 6♣
2 folds, CO raises to $6, Hero raises to $17, 1 fold, BB raises to $35, 1 fold, Hero calls $18

Flop: ($77.00) 7♠ 5♣ K♥ (2 players)
BB bets $38, Hero calls $38

Turn: ($153.00) 3♦ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($153.00) J♥ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $44, BB folds

Final Pot: $153.00
Hero mucks 8♣ 6♣
Hero wins $150.20
(Rake: $2.80)

lol....

neither is this guy.....

poker stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #18745381

BTN: $280.58 (140.3 bb)
SB: $213.14 (106.6 bb)
Hero (BB): $200 (100 bb)
UTG: $498.31 (249.2 bb)
MP: $211.32 (105.7 bb)
CO: $140.61 (70.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A♥ A♣
3 folds, BTN raises to $4, SB raises to $16, Hero raises to $200 and is all-in, BTN folds, SB calls $184

Flop: ($404) 7♦ 5♥ 9♠ (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($404) 4♠ (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($404) 6♥ (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Spoiler

Results: $404 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 7♦ 5♥ 9♠ 4♠ 6♥
SB showed 7♠ 7♥ and won $401.20 ($201.20 net)
Hero showed A♥ A♣ and lost (-$200 net)

:dancing:

 

[xdeucesx]

lol....

neither is this guy.....

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #18745381

BTN: $280.58 (140.3 bb)
SB: $213.14 (106.6 bb)
Hero (BB): $200 (100 bb)
UTG: $498.31 (249.2 bb)
MP: $211.32 (105.7 bb)
CO: $140.61 (70.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A♥ A♣
3 folds, BTN raises to $4, SB raises to $16, Hero raises to $200 and is all-in, BTN folds, SB calls $184

Flop: ($404) 7♦ 5♥ 9♠ (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($404) 4♠ (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($404) 6♥ (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Spoiler

Results: $404 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 7♦ 5♥ 9♠ 4♠ 6♥
SB showed 7♠ 7♥ and won $401.20 ($201.20 net)
Hero showed A♥ A♣ and lost (-$200 net)

:dancing:

looks like he had the best hand

 

[redwards92]

looks like he had the best hand

yep :afraid:

 

[hackmeplz]

lol so tilting, just quick line check, want to make sure I'm not losing my mind:

BTN: $205.12
SB: $499.34
BB: $118.51
UTG: $76.93
Hero (MP): $121.11
CO: $301.89

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is MP with 4:spade: 4:heart:
1 fold, Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, SB calls $2.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($7.00) K:diamond: J:diamond: 8:diamond: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($7.00) 4:club: (2 players)
SB bets $5, Hero calls $5

River: ($17.00) J:club: (2 players)
SB bets $10, Hero raises to $36, SB raises to $127, Hero folds

Final Pot: $89.00
SB wins $86.20
(Rake: $2.80)

 

[WVHillbilly]

This made me lol and reminded me of Marginal.

Spoiler

 

[WVHillbilly]

lol so tilting, just quick line check, want to make sure I'm not losing my mind:

BTN: $205.12
SB: $499.34
BB: $118.51
UTG: $76.93
Hero (MP): $121.11
CO: $301.89

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is MP with 4♠ 4♥
1 fold, Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, SB calls $2.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($7.00) K♦ J♦ 8♦ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($7.00) 4♣ (2 players)
SB bets $5, Hero calls $5

River: ($17.00) J♣ (2 players)
SB bets $10, Hero raises to $36, SB raises to $127, Hero folds

Final Pot: $89.00
SB wins $86.20
(Rake: $2.80)

Yuck!

 

[OldschoolSteinhausen]

Speaking of lol:

BTN: $200.00
SB: $602.15
Hero (BB): $202.00
UTG: $200.00
MP: $192.54
CO: $227.39

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BB with Q<font color='red'>♥</font> A<font color='black'>♣</font>
UTG raises to $6, 4 folds, Hero calls $4

Flop: ($13.00) K<font color='red'>♥</font> K<font color='black'>♠</font> 2<font color='red'>♦</font> (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $7, Hero calls $7

Turn: ($27.00) J<font color='black'>♣</font> (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $17.65, Hero calls $17.65

River: ($62.30) Q<font color='red'>♦</font> (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

Final Pot: $62.30
Hero shows Q<font color='red'>♥</font> A<font color='black'>♣</font> (two pair, Kings and Queens)
UTG shows T<font color='red'>♦</font> 9<font color='red'>♦</font> (a straight, Nine to King)
UTG wins $59.50
(Rake: $2.80)

ROFL

 

[OldschoolSteinhausen]

meh, doesn't seem that bad

what check/calls an utg raise for 3 streets? AQ is about it, but how often does that call turn and riv?

I can't say I disagree with you, it is actually a rather thin value bet even with the straight. AK should be in heros range. However, that really seems like the only possible hand in heros range that would call and lose. Everything else is boats. So, maybe villain is actually not that bad. My god!

 

[switch0723]

44 hand all types of puke.

Need info on villain since you rep exactly 0 value hands in the deck, and your line looks way more like a retarded bluff so is he good enough to see that? He could even be jamming flushes just because he is thinking he is never ever behind. Legit no idea what to do

 

[baudib1]

lol so tilting, just quick line check, want to make sure I'm not losing my mind:

BTN: $205.12
SB: $499.34
BB: $118.51
UTG: $76.93
Hero (MP): $121.11
CO: $301.89

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is MP with 4<font color='black'>♠</font> 4<font color='red'>♥</font>
1 fold, Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, SB calls $2.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($7.00) K<font color='red'>♦</font> J<font color='red'>♦</font> 8<font color='red'>♦</font> (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($7.00) 4<font color='black'>♣</font> (2 players)
SB bets $5, Hero calls $5

River: ($17.00) J<font color='black'>♣</font> (2 players)
SB bets $10, Hero raises to $36, SB raises to $127, Hero folds

Final Pot: $89.00
SB wins $86.20
(Rake: $2.80)

Not really qualified to comment on NL100 hands. I'd feel better about folding this if we had flopped bottom set, bet flop, got called, and bet turn and he check-shoved river.

Can you talk about his postflop tendencies? If he never leads flop then he'd have a ton of boats in his range; if he's the type to donk KJ+ especially on a dangerous board like this then it's hard for him to have us beat.

Since our hand is so unlikely I think this possibly a call, I could see it being a clear fold at NL10-NL25 vs. nit regs who are only jamming KJ here.

 

[Henreiman]

lol so tilting, just quick line check, want to make sure I'm not losing my mind:

BTN: $205.12
SB: $499.34
BB: $118.51
UTG: $76.93
Hero (MP): $121.11
CO: $301.89

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is MP with 4<font color='black'>♠</font> 4<font color='red'>♥</font>
1 fold, Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, SB calls $2.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($7.00) K<font color='red'>♦</font> J<font color='red'>♦</font> 8<font color='red'>♦</font> (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($7.00) 4<font color='black'>♣</font> (2 players)
SB bets $5, Hero calls $5

River: ($17.00) J<font color='black'>♣</font> (2 players)
SB bets $10, Hero raises to $36, SB raises to $127, Hero folds

Final Pot: $89.00
SB wins $86.20
(Rake: $2.80)

Unless we have a read on opponent, this has to be a puke fold. If Villain is really good they know their 3bet shove range looks stupidly strong, and we look like we can't have a FH, but betting that river looking for a fold (or raise) isn't likely. For us to call V has to be capable of bluffing AND has to put us on J10/QJ exactly AND expect us to raise with that/fold to shove...unlikely as we probably just flat.

 

[Deco]

lol so tilting, just quick line check, want to make sure I'm not losing my mind:

BTN: $205.12
SB: $499.34
BB: $118.51
UTG: $76.93
Hero (MP): $121.11
CO: $301.89

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is MP with 4<font color='black'>♠</font> 4<font color='red'>♥</font>
1 fold, Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, SB calls $2.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($7.00) K<font color='red'>♦</font> J<font color='red'>♦</font> 8<font color='red'>♦</font> (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($7.00) 4<font color='black'>♣</font> (2 players)
SB bets $5, Hero calls $5

River: ($17.00) J<font color='black'>♣</font> (2 players)
SB bets $10, Hero raises to $36, SB raises to $127, Hero folds

Final Pot: $89.00
SB wins $86.20
(Rake: $2.80)

If villain's decent I want to call.
Our range is {44, air}, once we checkback the flop we can never have a better fullhouse. Villain could bluff here as a result. He can't have KK/JJ most regs aint flatting KJo SB vs CO and probably 3bet pre the 3combos of KJs they do play.

 

[hackmeplz]

LOLOLOL

edit: idk how to embedd

 

[switch0723]

If villain's decent I want to call.
Our range is {44, air}, once we checkback the flop we can never have a better fullhouse. Villain could bluff here as a result. He can't have KK/JJ most regs aint flatting KJo SB vs CO and probably 3bet pre the 3combos of KJs they do play.

I imagine villain would expect us to raise turn with 44, so i think we actually rep nothing. But there is no reason to jam if we rep nothing, since we are never calling with worse if he has a flush

I think i call. Absolutely no clue if its right though. But hey, its going to be like 5 years before you are in this spot again so who cares

 

[WVHillbilly]

I imagine villain would expect us to raise turn with 44, so i think we actually rep nothing. But there is no reason to jam if we rep nothing, since we are never calling with worse if he has a flush

I think i call. Absolutely no clue if its right though. But hey, its going to be like 5 years before you are in this spot again so who cares

We're calling for the rest of our stack so jamming over isn't an option.

 

[switch0723]

ye i worded that poorly, i meant there is no need for him to jam over the top with a hand we beat since we don't rep a worse hand that will call

 

[switch0723]

but then he might because we don't rep any hands that are good hands so he can just freeroll a shove with a flush or something

I dunno

 

[WVHillbilly]

Ok, I thought maybe I was misunderstanding what you were saying. It's a weird spot and I'd probably call because I'm a station. Just not sure he has worse often enough for calling to be right though.

 

[hackmeplz]

fwiw in the 44 hand obviously I realize how exploitable it is if I'm folding here I'm literally folding my entire range. But this is a meh 100nl reg who is not going to be nearly aggressive enough on this river. I'm almost positive I can fold more often than w/e gto is because he's surely not bluffing "enough" here, it's just whether I can fold like the only value hand in my range at this point. Obviously in game I thought the answer was yes but could be wrong.

Oh and thanks wv for the embed fix

 

[WVHillbilly]

No problem. The way to do it is just paste the link (can't be https though so you gotta change it).

 

[hackmeplz]

Yeah I tried just deleting the s and that didn't work so just changed it back.

 

[WVHillbilly]

Yeah I think you had copied the "embed" link though. You just need the URL from the address bar when you're watching the vid.

 

[baudib1]

vs. meh reg it seems like a great fold, way to won souls.