What are you, an idiot?

[WVHillbilly]

I've got mixed reactions to the river card; obviously I'm dead to KQ now but at the same time we get so much value from any Q and possibly a K too that I think jamming our PSB is the best way. He snapped off with AKo (despite now beating nothing that I'm repping)

Well your FD is backdoor so he can put you on a missed heart draw, I guess. Should be a really small part of your range given the way the hand played out but who knows if he's even thinking beyond "I has topest pair. Must cawl.".

 

[Pascal-lf]

Well your FD is backdoor so he can put you on a missed heart draw, I guess. Should be a really small part of your range given the way the hand played out but who knows if he's even thinking beyond "I has topest pair. Must cawl.".

Probably not.

He's got a bluffcatcher and probably fistpump called

 

[BelgoSuisse]

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG with 9 <font color='black'>♠</font> 8 <font color='black'>♠</font>
Hero raises to $0.20, 3 folds, SB raises to $0.60, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1, SB calls $0.40

Flop: ($2.10) Q <font color='red'>♥</font> 4 <font color='black'>♠</font> K <font color='red'>♥</font> (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.50, SB calls $1.50

Turn: ($5.10) 2 <font color='black'>♠</font> (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3, SB calls $3

River: ($11.10) Q <font color='black'>♠</font> (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $11.14 all in, SB calls $11.14

Final Pot: $33.38
Hero shows 9 <font color='black'>♠</font> 8 <font color='black'>♠</font> (a flush, Queen high)
SB shows A <font color='red'>♦</font> K <font color='black'>♣</font> (two pair, Kings and Queens)
Hero wins $31.74
(Rake: $1.64)

A pot sized 3rd barrel in a hand that was 4bet preflop.

 

[Pascal-lf]

A pot sized 3rd barrel in a hand that was 4bet preflop.

That's just how I roll

 

[WVHillbilly]

More posts please.

 

[bigjoker66]

Is this the type of bluff your talking about?

Or are you wanting more 2 and three barrel stuff?

I have recently added this to my moves: Check the flop and bluff the turn. Although I did turn both a flush and gut-shot draws.

Full Tilt - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

UTG: $5.10
MP: $11.68
CO: $7.30
Hero (BTN): $10.11
SB: $10.00
BB: $16.84

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has A:spade: 7:spade:

UTG calls $0.10, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.45, fold, fold, UTG calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.05, 2 players) 2:diamond: 9:club: 6:spade:
UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($1.05, 2 players) 5:spade:
UTG checks, Hero bets $1.05, fold

Hero wins $0.98

 

[bigjoker66]

Here is another one where I did the same thing, but at full ring instead of 6-max:
Full Tilt - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

MP: $3.50
MP+1: $4.18
LP: $4.91
CO: $4.81
Hero (BTN): $10.23
SB: $6.70
BB: $15.18
UTG: $13.43
UTG+1: $10.00

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has J:spade: K:diamond:

fold, fold, fold, MP+1 calls $0.10, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.45, fold, fold, MP+1 calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.05, 2 players) T:diamond: 2:heart: 8:heart:
MP+1 checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($1.05, 2 players) T:club:
MP+1 checks, Hero bets $0.70, fold

Hero wins $0.98

 

[bigjoker66]

Here is a 3 barrel bluf I did wiht only Ace high: Whats with the $0.25 Villon bet on the river?

Bodog - $0.25 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

UTG+1: $23.95
MP: $15.65
MP+1: $24.50
CO: $17.70
Hero (BTN): $28.20
SB: $4.75
BB: $27.55
UTG: $24.75

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has 8:club: A:club:

fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, fold, MP+1 calls $0.25, fold, Hero raises to $1.20, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls $0.95, fold

Flop: ($3.00, 2 players) J:club: T:diamond: 6:spade:
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $1.75, UTG+1 calls $1.75

Turn: ($6.50, 2 players) 4:spade:
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $4.00, UTG+1 calls $4.00

River: ($14.50, 2 players) J:heart:
UTG+1 bets $0.25, Hero raises to $10.00, fold

Hero wins $14.25

 

[WVHillbilly]

I would prefer you talk about the hand a bit as well. What type of villain, what range you think he has, what he folds that beats you, etc. I'm really looking to spur discussion because like I said it's a (big?) part of the game that seemingly never gets discussed.

 

[BEERM4N]

oh this is going to be fun

*opens HEM up*

 

[ZCorky]

poker stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: $9.85
Hero (SB): $10.48
BB: $9.24
UTG: $8.37
MP: $13.06
CO: $10.75

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with Q:diamond: K:spade:
3 folds, BTN raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $0.80, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.70) 8:spade: A:heart: 2:spade: (2 players)
Hero bets $1.10, BTN calls $1.10

Turn: ($3.90) 3:spade: (2 players)
Hero bets $2.30, BTN calls $2.30

River: ($8.50) 5:heart: (2 players)
Hero bets $6.28 all in, BTN folds

 

[eNTy]

90% of all hands i play are bluffs
can i join ?

 

[WVHillbilly]

90% of all hands i play are bluffs
can i join ?

Plenty of room for a man of your considerable talents.

 

[ZCorky]

Now I have read the thread properly...and realise you are offering a prize!! (this is going to hurt my bankroll).

My hand posted above we had just lost the mark at the table (60/10/1) and everyone else was running as a TAG. I wanted to take advantage of my tight image and steal some pots before leaving the table. I didn't really want to be as involved as I was but the flush draw sucked me in

 

[zek]

$15 (on FTP) to the person who best talks about and demonstrates bluffing.

It there a nice way to search for these in my PT3?

 

[Pascal-lf]

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 836986
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

CO: $25.00
BTN: $85.55
SB: $25.10
BB: $26.34
UTG: $54.34
Hero (MP): $49.65

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP with J :diamond: T :diamond:
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.75, 3 folds, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.60) 4 :spade: 7 :club: 7 :spade: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.10, BB raises to $3, Hero raises to $8, BB folds

Final Pot: $7.60
Hero mucks J :diamond: T :diamond:
Hero wins $7.23
(Rake: $0.37)


Stabby villain, I was expecting the c/r when I c-bet

 

[WVHillbilly]

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 836986
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

CO: $25.00
BTN: $85.55
SB: $25.10
BB: $26.34
UTG: $54.34
Hero (MP): $49.65

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP with J ♦ T ♦
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.75, 3 folds, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.60) 4 ♠ 7 ♣ 7 ♠ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.10, BB raises to $3, Hero raises to $8, BB folds

Final Pot: $7.60
Hero mucks J ♦ T ♦
Hero wins $7.23
(Rake: $0.37)


Stabby villain, I was expecting the c/r when I c-bet

What's the best hand you ever 3bet that flop with?

 

[Pascal-lf]

2+2 theorem, can't remember name - a 3bet on a low paired flop is nearly always a bluff.

I'd probably 3bet with 87 though, open ended and flush draws

 

[WVHillbilly]

It there a nice way to search for these in my PT3?

Yeah, go in to the filters and set it up for things like no pair or underpair on river. Then add a filter for bet on river. You can then modify to look at turn bets.

Or if you want to see hand where you floated, look for hands with no pair / underpair of flop where you called a bet and then add bet turn.

Just play around with it you'll get it.

 

[rssurfer54]

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

MP: $5.00
CO: $8.47
Hero (BTN): $14.18
SB: $4.95
BB: $6.01
UTG: $2.97

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has 5:diamond: 4:diamond:

fold, fold, CO raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.60, fold, fold, CO calls $0.45

Flop: ($1.27, 2 players) 3:spade: 7:diamond: A:diamond:
CO bets $1.05, Hero raises to $3.00, CO calls $1.95

Turn: ($7.27, 2 players) T:heart:
CO checks, Hero checks

River: ($7.27, 2 players) 8:spade:
CO checks, Hero bets $10.58 and is all-in, fold

Hero wins $6.92

 

[WVHillbilly]

Do you ever check back the turn with a strong hand there? Not many hands that you're repping with that one imo.

Also remember I'm looking for discussion, reasoning, ranges, etc., etc.

 

[WVHillbilly]

2+2 theorem, can't remember name - a 3bet on a low paired flop is nearly always a bluff.

I'd probably 3bet with 87 though, open ended and flush draws

I'm just saying if he's thinking even a little or if he's not thinking at all it would be pretty easy for him to shove over your 3bet because you're going to have to fold a ton.

 

[DawgBones]

Ok let's throw this in. Please note the name of the room was Drool. Seemed appropriate after this gem. And if you want to know what I was thinking..."Wahoo I've got AKs and I can bluff you off anything." Almost Really though with four to the nut flush maybe this wasn't as big of a bluff as I originally thought

full tilt poker $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 837442
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
BB: $2.12
Hero (UTG): $1.96
UTG+1: $2.08
UTG+2: $0.67
MP1: $0.68
MP2: $2.76
CO: $2.00
BTN: $2.64
SB: $3.67
CO posts a big blind ($0.02)
Pre Flop: ($0.05) Hero is UTG with A ♦ K ♦
Hero raises to $0.09, 6 folds, SB calls $0.08, 1 fold
Flop: ($0.22) 5 ♦ 3 ♦ 6 ♠ (2 players)
SB bets $0.14, Hero raises to $1.87 all in, SB calls $1.73
Turn: ($3.96) J ♥ (2 players - 1 is all in)
River: ($3.96) K ♣ (2 players - 1 is all in)
Final Pot: $3.96
Hero shows A ♦ K ♦ (a pair of Kings)
SB shows 6 ♥ 6 ♣ (three of a kind, Sixes)
SB wins $3.70
(Rake: $0.26)

 

[WVHillbilly]

With 2 overs and a FD your equity against even the range he's calling the shove with is too good for that to be a bluff. Solid value shove imo.

 

[Poker Orifice]

Too bad you've included this > Cash games only. Shoving all your chips in a tourney is easy. I mean it's a tourney, who cares?

I've got some saved HH's with some decent bluffs where stacks are deep in early levels. (you're missing out on some goodies!!!)