What do you do when your running bad?

[Tobysonoma]

Thanks y'all. I needed the support. It's hard to stay with it at this point.

It's weird as hell. I've missed every flush draw for 2 weeks now. Capped my session off with losing with JJ to 99 on a preflop all in to a loose as he'll player who I know well who only shoved because he knows I'm running bad and I only had 250 in front of me. I know it will end. And I'm trying to evaluate play and not results but it's tough as hell when your running this bad. I know it will get better however. It's just surviving till it does...

Thanks again for the support yall

For the record I rarely shove preflop or call with JJ preflop.

I had about 220 left in front of me. Villain makes it 40 in a 2-5 game (usually raises big with mid pairs, not so much with big ones) I make it 90 with JJ he ships, I'm committed and didn't think he'd call or shove... Then turns over 9s and flopped a boat...

 

[Tobysonoma]

So I need a read on this if you can help.

Was playing 1-3 tonight.

Under the gun with ace king diamonds. I limp.
Mid position makes it 10
Next guy calls who has been the guy who over raises everything and has made huge bets with ace-2 etc. and feels the ace is always good.
2 more callers I make it 45 to go to put initial raiser all in.
He calls next guy makes it 100
Everyone folds I call

Flop comes As 5s 5d

I check he makes it 100 I call to trap thinking he has a weak ace
Turn comes Qd
I make it 175 he pushes for another 350 on top I tank and call
He shows 5d 7c (after initial raiser shoves preflop he raised)
River is a blank
Did I play this wrong. I guess I had to worry about A-5 but didn't think he had that...

Literally still haven't hit a flush in 16 days and keep losing to crap like this...

 

[Tobysonoma]

For the record this player was calling every raise and making it 20 in a 1-3 game 3 out of for hands and called an all in for 130 preflop against a tight player with Ace deuce of hearts. I would normally give a player credibility and fold this hand but I thought he was just trying to buy the side pot.

I had called 3 of his river bets where he just mucked as I called...

 

[DoctorDonLoL]

i use to go all in
and most times i lose everything
but i stopped playing cash games

 

[atlantafalcons0]

So I need a read on this if you can help.

Was playing 1-3 tonight.

Under the gun with ace king diamonds. I limp.
Mid position makes it 10
Next guy calls who has been the guy who over raises everything and has made huge bets with ace-2 etc. and feels the ace is always good.
2 more callers I make it 45 to go to put initial raiser all in.
He calls next guy makes it 100
Everyone folds I call

Flop comes As 5s 5d

I check he makes it 100 I call to trap thinking he has a weak ace
Turn comes Qd
I make it 175 he pushes for another 350 on top I tank and call
He shows 5d 7c (after initial raiser shoves preflop he raised)
River is a blank
Did I play this wrong. I guess I had to worry about A-5 but didn't think he had that...

Literally still haven't hit a flush in 16 days and keep losing to crap like this...

I'm raising 3x utg with AKd preflop. Somewhere in the hand you should have raised to see where you're at, get some info. The flop was critical. Don't worry about trapping donks. I wouldn't check that flop. I'd be betting and see what the dude does. You say "weak ace". Ace 5 is the definition of a weak ace.

 

[atlantafalcons0]

Check calling that flop was the mistake that I see in that hand. Aside from the fact that you limped preflop with a premium hand. Check calling trying to trap with non nut hands is a mistake that I've seen a lot (by pros) that ends in disaster more often than not because you simply can't define your opponents range.

 

[HooDooKoo]

Did I play this wrong. I guess I had to worry about A-5 but didn't think he had that...

Given what you've said about the villain, you most certainly played this wrong.

1. Limping UTG is ALWAYS bad play. Always. Aggressive players will re-raise if you open UTG, so your opening UTG just grows the pot faster --- which I assume is what you want.

2. There are two hands that you fear preflop, AA and KK. Shove pre, and live with the result --- especially against this maniac. If he has aces or kings, so be it.

3. As played, what hands does he shove on the turn that you beat?

-HooDooKoo

 

[Tobysonoma]

That guy was bluffing most hands and betting second and third pair all night. And I agree shipping wouldn't be the worst play but I just really haven't found it to be profitable shipping with AK. Also that guy would probably have called me with 7-7 as in his mind he was already in 100.

And rightly or wrongly I don't really try to build pots up big with AK. I prefer mid size pots with it as I find it a dangerous hand that's also obvious when it hits.

 

[HooDooKoo]

When you shove with AK, it doesn't matter how "obvious it is". If the guy calls your shove with 77, that's even better. In the long run he'll have far less than 50% equity calling your shoves with low-mid pockets --- which is great for you.

Not shoving against this villain was a bad play. You are so concerned with losing that you don't play to win. It's not good, for your psyche or your bankroll. And you also didn't answer the question from my last post. Calling the river shove was terrible.

I don't care if you like me or not, but you could learn a ton from me. Just be thankful that I don't play at the casino you do ...

-HooDooKoo

 

[exostenz]

If you get a bad beat

When you get a bad beat in theory does it matter to take a break? The graph of winnings is going down but simply by stopping do we bring an abrupt end to that that downswing. I don't know im just saying for me its pure speculation as I always go broke after two bad beats

 

[steelwheel92]

Best bet is to understand that bad beats happen, and this can be verified by watching others bad beats. Take a break for a day or two. A bad run could also be because you as a player are feeling invincible if you've had a lucky steak.

 

[Tgen]

i evaluate my game to see if i did something wrong and move on.

 

[Che]

I’m a holde’m player. I start with the best hand, try to. When you’re a holde’m player, you don’t get out and draw a lot of times. I start with the best hand, that’s the reason. For big pots, big money, I’ve got a good hand. I usually I got the best hand when I get my money in. I can’t help if I get outdraw. If my opponent has the best hand at the last card, he would have had to have the worst hand until that card. He would have to outdraw me to take the pot and the player who stays with the worst hand, with the hopes of catching a winner, is going to go broke.

 

[Raccoony]

i bet so much... and lose again.. jaja

You must be new to poker...not that I have a problem taking easy money... but when you say you bet so much ...and lose a lot...it bothers me.. Poker is a great game and requires discipline and strategy.. perhaps you should play more tight and not bet sooo many hands...study more strategy and learn more about hand values. losing money is bad...but playing reckless poker is bad for the integrity of the game :viking:

What a terrible post!

OP SHOULD be betting a lot when he's ahead. Doing anything else is asinine. Please do us all a favor and get a clue before you begin aswering questions here.

-HooDooKoo

Nawlins Ace was referring to ElGordoCat's post.

 

[wizkid44]

Find a new hobby to take your mind off of poker for a few weeks.Or if you have a passion for poker,take a break by studying the game..read articles,watch videos etc..

 

[Che]

I’m a Holde’m player. I start with the best hand, try to. When you’re a Holde’m player, you don’t get out and draw a lot of times. For big pots, big money, I’ve got a good hand. I usually I got the best hand when I get my big money in. I can’t help if I get outdraw. If my opponent has the best hand at the last card, he would have had to have the worst hand until that card. He would have to outdraw me to take the pot and the player who stays with the worst hand, with the hopes of catching a winner, is going to go broke.

When you're running bad as you just described, I think there’s two way to overcome that. I can tell you what I do. There are basically psychological tricks that you can play on yourself, because nobody is happy when they are losing. The fact is, that if you get into a game, let’s say a 5-10, and after the first hour you find yourself down $1000, you know that it is very unlikely you can get that $1000 back that day, especially if you play properly, which means to throw most of your hands away. So, of course, many people start playing bad hands in order to try to get that 1000 back. This is silly and wrong. The correct thing to do is just to play as well as you can, hope to get 500 of the 1000 back, and once in a while you will get the whole 1000 back. Well, how does one do that. And the answer that I’ve found is you have to sort of trick yourself. You have to just say “It doesn’t matter whether I win or lose, it only matters that I play well. And the way you can get yourself to do that is one, by having pride in yourself. I’m not here to win, I’m here to play well. Be proud of the way I’m playing. Be able to go home and sway, you know I lost $500 today, and a bad player would have lost $900 with those same cards. You have to realize that a day you lose can make you money at the end of the month just the same as a day you win because if you lose $500 and a bad player would have lost $900 then that means there’s $400 more profit at the end of the month. That’s one trick. And the other trick is to simply realize that you figure to win a certain amount per hour in the long run. You’re coming to work, you’re not gambling, and you are constantly just playing your best in the hopes that, or in the certainty, actually, that you will eventually win what you are expected to win. And you don’t think about any individual result, you don’t think about any individual day, and, in fact, you don’t even have to count your money, while you’re playing or even after you’re playing. This is not a football game. If you’re a serious poker player, it doesn’t matter what the score is at the end of the day. In football, there’s no difference between a 30 to nothing loss and a 30 to 28 loss. But in poker there is because the score continues onto the next day. I’d much rather lose 30 to 28 than 30 to nothing, in poker.

 

[veronica]

the losing streak is something that is always present , try to stop play and analyze , where am failing ... but my best advice is that bad rahas is better to close session and think.

 

[limpnfold88]

The easiest answer is: if you're currently playing, stand up and take a break. get a salad and a smoothie. refocus and go back and forget about it. If you're not playing, continue to not play until your mind is right. Every time i've played when i'm running/playing bad, or when my mind isnt right, i get crushed.

 

[titomurcia1214]

Taking a break is good cleared a bit, the music helps me much either stop playing and talking poker this site also helps me vent and not keep throwing $$

 

[Pedro22]

The best you can do, os to stop playing. Fresh air can help

 

[limpnfold88]

hey hoo doo whats up bro? remember when i crushed you hu? lol jk

 

[ruiluciano]

I break my phone 3 times.....but then i play again and now i have more restricted actions and it not happened again!

 

[rock0001]

First of all you have to analize your game and see if you are just running bad or playing hands the wrong way. the best thing to do if you are running bad is taking a break and lower the limits you are playing if your bankroll decrease significantly. try not to tilt and dont play just too recover your losses believe me this is not a good strategy. Focused on your game and not in how much money you lost. good luck.

 

[wildyetty]

dude after that happens all you got to do is get up walk around your desk 3 times counter clockwise an ship the next 22 your delt alls good after that

 

[baxre]

If you run bad try to analyze your game and watch a lot of poker videos about strategy etc. Always try to get higher skill