What am I supposed to do

[thejuice1]

Supposing I have aces in a $1/$2 game and raise $30 preflop.

Opponent flat calls with K 10 and catches 2 pair on the flop.

I shove, he calls, and I lose.

What the hell do you do here?

Why are you raising so much pre flop?
$15 is probably more than sufficient in that scenario.
And shoving being first to act there, is also a terrible decision. Either check or make a sensible bet to see what your opponent does. Youre only getting called in that spot, if youre beat, as you were, so never risk your whole stack or most of it like that.

 

[Phoenix14]

Why are you raising so much pre flop?
$15 is probably more than sufficient in that scenario.
And shoving being first to act there, is also a terrible decision. Either check or make a sensible bet to see what your opponent does. Youre only getting called in that spot, if youre beat, as you were, so never risk your whole stack or most of it like that.

Very true, thanks.

 

[aj43615]

i totally agree with thejuice1....after flop came i would check to see if I'm beat...but again...if they bet it's not like im going to fold AA...so idk to be honest with you....I was at the casino other night with AA....raised the flop....guy called...flop came K109...he went all in....I called and won with my AA....IDK what he had he never showed it...but assuming maybe AK....but it's kind of a hard situation i believe when you have AA and whether you should fold it or not...I can't do it lol...

 

[aj43615]

btw i thought for sure he had the straight going all in....with QJ...but J came on turn and 4 on river and i won ...so only thing i could figure is he had AK like i said in first comment...or maybe some sort of pockets trying to scare me off from the board...

 

[57noona]

I found most of the answers to this scenario great for learning how to play Aces better than all in pre-flop and post-flop. Thanks for all the advice on how to play Aces in early position.

 

[colbear]

Position

I think it all depends on position . Why such a big raise preflop ? Seems you might of been getting pushed around by an aggresive player or have been getting sucked out on a lot in this game . The fact he called w K 10 supports this . I think you were doomed from the start . Tell us did your whole game this day go this way and was he the one suking out or pushing you around?

 

[Honest]

I had AA just an hour ago and lost to 42s.

Raised preflop by 5BB, flop came X42. I assumed he had to of missed and raised all-in. I get snap called and they show two pair. I leave the tourney two places short of cashing.

As long as you keep your emotions in check you'll be able to maintain perspective and you'll be fine. It's when you let negative feelings influence your perception and actions that things start to get messy and you can do some serious damage to your wallet and discipline.

 

[thejuice1]

I had AA just an hour ago and lost to 42s.

Raised preflop by 5BB, flop came X42. I assumed he had to of missed and raised all-in. I get snap called and they show two pair. I leave the tourney two places short of cashing.

As long as you keep your emotions in check you'll be able to maintain perspective and you'll be fine. It's when you let negative feelings influence your perception and actions that things start to get messy and you can do some serious damage to your wallet and discipline.

Patience and limiting losses are the 2 keys. Yes obviously AA is a strong hand but once the flop hits, your opponent could have anything. Regardless of position, with this particular holding, don't just shove. Bet and see where you stand.
The only time you get called by shoving all in, in this scenario, is if youre beat. So instead of putting your stack totally at risk, just make a good solid bet.
Just because you might be a tight player and would never call a raise with 42, doesn't mean many others wont.
Try to never put your entire stack at risk, unless you cant avoid it, like you've got 20 BB or less late in a tourney or if you have the nuts. If youre going to put your stack on the line, make sure, to the best of your ability, that you've got the guy smashed. Having AA on any flop, before you've seen any post flop betting, etc, you really have little idea what the other guy could have. Also know the player your in the hand with and their tendencies. That's maybe the most important thing to learn. Holdings don't matter... players and their tendencies matter.

 

[pauloandre100]

Did you open raise 15x with AA? Open Raise 4x!!!!! After the call you have to go allin in the flop.

 

[vapandrei]

Call it a loss, remember that Aces can be cracked and move on. We've all been there, multiple times. Lost with quads too.. so..

 

[playinggameswithu]

The odds of him hitting two pair are like 1 to 49. The odds of him getting stacked post flop are like 30% on the flop. The odds of him losing in some way are massive.I would just bankroll manage for 60x the buyin and re-play this hand 50 times for a massive profit.

 

[braveslice]

Looks like he played them vs a bad player for max value.

+1

It really hurts my poker inner when we see max value line, btw working beautifully and then some mumbo jumbo about how you should only play standard without realizing reasons behind our actions. Max value is one of the core skills of poker. I don’t know if this was intended or accident, but that is beside the point. [Calming down]

Btw he would have called shove (that was about a pot size!) with KJ, maybe JT too etc..

Edit: playinggameswithu gives math backround for understanding that we were indeed on massive profit run.

 

[Top Top]

Why did you raise more than 15Big Blinds was better to jam it all and even if you lose it that would be better than firing 15Big Blinds in the middle and getting a Monkey on the back

 

[Barbarik]

I so like your forum, finally, you can talk on interesting topics about poker with other people! It is a pleasure to play poker. At the same time you rest and then do a total analysis of what is happening on the table. Super!