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Hi John
Watched the video and followed faithfully creating a 9 max raise first in, as most of my volume is still full ring.

Went through each position in the hand selector with my standard opening ranges tagging the push/raise and saved and ran the chart against a 2 hour session of 600 or so hands.
It came back with 81 errors and on review it was faulting hands that were folded due to raises before the hand got to my postion.
For example the first hand flagged was A8os on the button, which of course is normally an open first in but a fold to any EP opens.

What am I doing wrong?


What version of DH2 are you running? There was a bug / issue here on the first releases. It should have all been corrected.

Are you also sure if you set your charts for full ring that you started at UTG+1 and not UTG?
 
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What version of DH2 are you running? There was a bug / issue here on the first releases. It should have all been corrected.

Are you also sure if you set your charts for full ring that you started at UTG+1 and not UTG?

Version 2.0.0.5758

I will update and see if it makes a difference.
Confirmed I started at UTG+1
 
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HAND DEVIATION

Ok ran it after an update and the number of hands has dropped from 81 down to 70.

It clearly is looking at hands were I'm not the first raiser, how do we allow for that?

The 3rd hand in the image, is it suggesting I fold TT there?
 

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Ok ran it after an update and the number of hands has dropped from 81 down to 70.

It clearly is looking at hands were I'm not the first raiser, how do we allow for that?

The 3rd hand in the image, is it suggesting I fold TT there?

For some reason I can't increase the image.

With the hand chart you put in, you made sure to start from the correct position? Is this full ring or 6-max or?
 
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I'd like to take part in this study group. Is there anything else I have to do except for following the thread and read/study your book?
 
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extreme preflop action

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD 2 Poker HUD and Database Software

NL Holdem 0.10(BB)
BB ($10) [VPIP: 14.7% | PFR: 10.8% | AGG: 21.7% | Flop Agg: 25% | Turn Agg: 42.9% | River Agg: 0% | 3-Bet: 4.2% | 4-Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 7.5% | Hands: 103]
UTG ($13.21) [VPIP: 22% | PFR: 11.4% | AGG: 32.3% | Hands: 133]
HERO ($17.33) [VPIP: 17.3% | PFR: 13.9% | AGG: 33% | Hands: 555299]
MP1 ($24.02) [VPIP: 25.1% | PFR: 15.2% | AGG: 21.9% | Hands: 213]
MP2 ($6.92) [VPIP: 37.8% | PFR: 8.9% | AGG: 33.3% | Hands: 45]
HJ ($9.55) [VPIP: 13.1% | PFR: 8.3% | AGG: 16.7% | Hands: 84]
CO ($17.49) [VPIP: 19.2% | PFR: 5.8% | AGG: 4.8% | Flop Agg: 0% | Turn Agg: 10.5% | River Agg: 5.9% | 3-Bet: 2% | 4-Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 25% | Hands: 121]
BTN ($12.27) [VPIP: 18.8% | PFR: 16.7% | AGG: 23.1% | Hands: 236]
SB ($10.82) [VPIP: 18.8% | PFR: 13.1% | AGG: 28.8% | Hands: 1351]

Dealt to Hero: Q Q

UTG Folds, HERO Raises To $0.30, MP1 Folds, MP2 Folds, HJ Calls $0.30, CO Calls $0.30, BTN Raises To $1.50, SB Folds, BB Calls $1.40, HERO Calls $1.20, HJ Calls $1.20, CO Raises To $17.49 (allin), BTN Folds, BB Calls $8.50 (allin), HERO?

Do we have enough equity to call this off? Looks like we do, I reckon we have between 40-45% equity.
I struggled in game to work it out because it was 3way. If it was 2way v CO I would have certainly called especially as he just called initially, but the BB being there was the spanner.I range him to be JJ, QQ KK, AKs
 
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NL Holdem 0.05(BB)
BTN ($21.98) [VPIP: 21.1% | PFR: 21.1% | AGG: 50% | Hands: 19]
HERO ($13.53) [VPIP: 17.3% | PFR: 13.9% | AGG: 32.9% | Flop Agg: 33.3% | Turn Agg: 37.1% | River Agg: 30.4% | 3-Bet: 4.4% | 4-Bet: 14.6% | Cold Call: 11.1% | Hands: 562147]
BB ($5.38) [VPIP: 0% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 1]
UTG ($9.47) [VPIP: 0% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 1]
HJ ($14.54) [VPIP: 12.3% | PFR: 7.9% | AGG: 40.6% | Flop Agg: 43.4% | Turn Agg: 51.7% | River Agg: 33.3% | 3-Bet: 5.9% | 4-Bet: 0% | Hands: 458]
CO ($2.44) [VPIP: 12% | PFR: 4% | AGG: 33.3% | Hands: 26]

Dealt to Hero: 8 9

UTG Folds, HJ Raises To $0.15, CO Folds, BTN Folds, HERO Calls $0.13,(270bb deep) BB Folds

Hero SPR on Flop: [38.23 effective]
Flop ($0.35): 9 9 6
HERO Checks, HJ Bets $0.20 (Rem. Stack: $14.19), HERO Raises To $0.40 (misclicked was going to raise bigger) (Rem. Stack: $12.98), HJ Raises To $1.25 (Rem. Stack: $13.14), HERO Calls $0.85 (Rem. Stack: $12.13)

Turn ($2.85): 9 9 6 5
HERO Checks, HJ Bets $2.07 (Rem. Stack: $11.07), HERO Calls $2.07 (Rem. Stack: $10.06)

River ($6.99): 9 9 6 5 K
HERO Checks, HJ Bets $4.50 (Rem. Stack: $6.57), HERO Calls $4.50 (Rem. Stack: $5.56)

HJ shows: 6 6

HJ wins: $15.33
 
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NL Holdem 0.05(BB)
BTN ($21.98) [VPIP: 21.1% | PFR: 21.1% | AGG: 50% | Hands: 19]
HERO ($13.53) [VPIP: 17.3% | PFR: 13.9% | AGG: 32.9% | Flop Agg: 33.3% | Turn Agg: 37.1% | River Agg: 30.4% | 3-Bet: 4.4% | 4-Bet: 14.6% | Cold Call: 11.1% | Hands: 562147]
BB ($5.38) [VPIP: 0% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 1]
UTG ($9.47) [VPIP: 0% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 1]
HJ ($14.54) [VPIP: 12.3% | PFR: 7.9% | AGG: 40.6% | Flop Agg: 43.4% | Turn Agg: 51.7% | River Agg: 33.3% | 3-Bet: 5.9% | 4-Bet: 0% | Hands: 458]
CO ($2.44) [VPIP: 12% | PFR: 4% | AGG: 33.3% | Hands: 26]

Dealt to Hero: 8 9

UTG Folds, HJ Raises To $0.15, CO Folds, BTN Folds, HERO Calls $0.13,(270bb deep) BB Folds

Hero SPR on Flop: [38.23 effective]
Flop ($0.35): 9 9 6
HERO Checks, HJ Bets $0.20 (Rem. Stack: $14.19), HERO Raises To $0.40 (misclicked was going to raise bigger) (Rem. Stack: $12.98), HJ Raises To $1.25 (Rem. Stack: $13.14), HERO Calls $0.85 (Rem. Stack: $12.13)

Turn ($2.85): 9 9 6 5
HERO Checks, HJ Bets $2.07 (Rem. Stack: $11.07), HERO Calls $2.07 (Rem. Stack: $10.06)

River ($6.99): 9 9 6 5 K
HERO Checks, HJ Bets $4.50 (Rem. Stack: $6.57), HERO Calls $4.50 (Rem. Stack: $5.56)

HJ shows: 6 6

HJ wins: $15.33


You probably know how I feel about flop check min raises. :)

Against someone this tight, I think you lost the min. Against a lot of opponents, especially since you have the 8, getting it on the flop would be ideal. Calling and CRAI on the turn would also be an option. But against said opponent, think you played it fine.
 
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That being said, just like you, I'm still always learning. Some of you may even be much better than myself, but I still hope you'll join and we can learn from each other. I want to make this as conducive to everyone, including myself as possible. I think it will be a lot of fun!
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great job ! Too bad I'm 9 years late:)

I will read everything from the beginning!! only a question! I read that you mentioned that the content is functional in all limits despite being intended for NL400, would it work for live? Or do trends change a lot?


 
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great job ! Too bad I'm 9 years late:)

I will read everything from the beginning!! only a question! I read that you mentioned that the content is functional in all limits despite being intended for NL400, would it work for live? Or do trends change a lot?



It's intended for all limits. And yes, we talk poker in general, so live, online, everything.
 
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For user that already have DH2, do we get an extra license?:D
 
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For user that already have DH2, do we get an extra license?:D

Negative ghostrider... but if you're interested, let me know and we can get you some other add-on software like leak buster, player x-ray, asian hand converter, etc...
 
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Wow.... fresh new look to the forums. Interesting...
 
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Need to see if this formatting still works.

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NL Holdem 0.50(BB)
UTG (100BBs) [VPIP: 19.7% | PFR: 16.4% | AGG: 20% | Hands: 62]
HJ (106.6BBs) [VPIP: 33.3% | PFR: 25% | AGG: 40% | Hands: 24]
CO (143.1BBs) [VPIP: 28.6% | PFR: 26.2% | AGG: 40% | Hands: 42]
BTN (125.5BBs) [VPIP: 31.4% | PFR: 20% | AGG: 41.2% | Flop Agg: 26.7% | Turn Agg: 63.6% | River Agg: 42.9% | 3-Bet: 8.3% | 4-Bet: 0% | Hands: 71]
SB (99BBs) [VPIP: 22.2% | PFR: 14.8% | AGG: 44.4% | Hands: 27]
HERO (109.8BBs)

Dealt to Hero: 9:club: 8:club:

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Folds, BTN Raises To 2.5BBs, SB Folds, HERO Calls 1.5BBs

Hero SPR on Flop: [19.51 effective]
Flop (5.5BBs): K:spade: K:club: 2:diamond:
HERO Checks, BTN Bets 1.7BBs (Rem. Stack: 121.2BBs), HERO Calls 1.7BBs (Rem. Stack: 105.6BBs)

Turn (8.9BBs): K:spade: K:club: 2:diamond: 5:club:
HERO Checks, BTN Bets 6.4BBs (Rem. Stack: 114.9BBs), HERO Raises To 20.8BBs (Rem. Stack: 84.8BBs), BTN Calls 14.4BBs (Rem. Stack: 100.5BBs)

River (50.5BBs): K:spade: K:club: 2:diamond: 5:club: 4:club:
HERO Bets 37BBs (Rem. Stack: 47.9BBs), BTN Folds

HERO wins: 47.9BBs
 
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NL Holdem 0.50(BB)
MP (131.1BBs) [VPIP: 25.3% | PFR: 14.5% | AGG: 27% | Hands: 84]
CO (182.7BBs) [VPIP: 27.7% | PFR: 4.8% | AGG: 27.7% | Flop Agg: 21.7% | Turn Agg: 31.3% | River Agg: 37.5% | 3-Bet: 0% | 4-Bet: 0% | Hands: 84]
BTN (193.4BBs) [VPIP: 11.9% | PFR: 3.6% | AGG: 37.5% | Hands: 84]
SB (98.5BBs) [VPIP: 13.3% | PFR: 13.3% | AGG: 16.7% | Hands: 15]
HERO (100BBs) [VPIP: 29.3% | PFR: 22.6% | AGG: 37% | Flop Agg: 42.3% | Turn Agg: 39% | River Agg: 28.3% | 3-Bet: 10.2% | 4-Bet: 12.9% | Cold Call: 14.6% | Hands: 6987]
UTG_1 (95.5BBs) [VPIP: 18.9% | PFR: 10.8% | AGG: 44.4% | Hands: 37]
UTG (122.5BBs) [VPIP: 21.6% | PFR: 9.8% | AGG: 30% | Hands: 52]

Dealt to Hero: 6 K

UTG_1 Folds, UTG Folds, MP Folds, CO Raises To 3BBs, BTN Folds, SB Folds, HERO Calls 2BBs

Hero SPR on Flop: [14.92 effective]
Flop (6.5BBs): 2 T 7
HERO Checks, CO Bets 3BBs (Rem. Stack: 176.7BBs), HERO Calls 3BBs (Rem. Stack: 94BBs)

Turn (12.5BBs): 2 T 7 3
HERO Checks, CO Bets 5.9BBs (Rem. Stack: 170.8BBs), HERO Raises To 16.9BBs (Rem. Stack: 77.1BBs), CO Calls 10.9BBs (Rem. Stack: 159.8BBs)

River (46.3BBs): 2 T 7 3 4
HERO Bets 31BBs (Rem. Stack: 46.1BBs), CO Raises To 159.8BBs (allin), HERO Calls 46.1BBs (allin)
 
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Since this thread is dying a bit. I'll post some new learning material. :)

I really like this GTO series that was put together using GTOX and Drivehud 2. There's some really good info in here for players who want to expand their GTO knowledge some more.

 
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Hey its been a while...

Jumped back in this week and this monster 420bb hand reared up.
Question is felt lost on the turn, didn't know best turn action?
Tight 5nl zoom pool on Stars, fortunate result.
 
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Hello mates, what happened to this thread? Is still alive?
This book is very good and important to any poker player, whether is a cash games or tournament player.
Can we still put hands to analysis professor @John A ? Thanks
 
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Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD 2 Poker HUD and Database Software

NL Holdem 0.50(BB)
MP (131.1BBs) [VPIP: 25.3% | PFR: 14.5% | AGG: 27% | Hands: 84]
CO (182.7BBs) [VPIP: 27.7% | PFR: 4.8% | AGG: 27.7% | Flop Agg: 21.7% | Turn Agg: 31.3% | River Agg: 37.5% | 3-Bet: 0% | 4-Bet: 0% | Hands: 84]
BTN (193.4BBs) [VPIP: 11.9% | PFR: 3.6% | AGG: 37.5% | Hands: 84]
SB (98.5BBs) [VPIP: 13.3% | PFR: 13.3% | AGG: 16.7% | Hands: 15]
HERO (100BBs) [VPIP: 29.3% | PFR: 22.6% | AGG: 37% | Flop Agg: 42.3% | Turn Agg: 39% | River Agg: 28.3% | 3-Bet: 10.2% | 4-Bet: 12.9% | Cold Call: 14.6% | Hands: 6987]
UTG_1 (95.5BBs) [VPIP: 18.9% | PFR: 10.8% | AGG: 44.4% | Hands: 37]
UTG (122.5BBs) [VPIP: 21.6% | PFR: 9.8% | AGG: 30% | Hands: 52]

Dealt to Hero: 6 K

UTG_1 Folds, UTG Folds, MP Folds, CO Raises To 3BBs, BTN Folds, SB Folds, HERO Calls 2BBs

Hero SPR on Flop: [14.92 effective]
Flop (6.5BBs): 2 T 7
HERO Checks, CO Bets 3BBs (Rem. Stack: 176.7BBs), HERO Calls 3BBs (Rem. Stack: 94BBs)

Turn (12.5BBs): 2 T 7 3
HERO Checks, CO Bets 5.9BBs (Rem. Stack: 170.8BBs), HERO Raises To 16.9BBs (Rem. Stack: 77.1BBs), CO Calls 10.9BBs (Rem. Stack: 159.8BBs)

River (46.3BBs): 2 T 7 3 4
HERO Bets 31BBs (Rem. Stack: 46.1BBs), CO Raises To 159.8BBs (allin), HERO Calls 46.1BBs (allin)
Well played. I wouldn’t have lead the river. The rest of the streets were okay.
 
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Since this thread is dying a bit. I'll post some new learning material. :)

I really like this GTO series that was put together using GTOX and Drivehud 2. There's some really good info in here for players who want to expand their GTO knowledge some more.

If you keep posting hands to analysis I promise I won’t let this awesome thread dies. However I cannot guarantee you will enjoy my analysis.
 
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I donked it all off on the river ten times in a row
What should I do?
lol
hi!
Thanks for your answer mate. Surely it is a good option to Donk-river, but we might get some folds once the back-door flush completed. Not that we should either donk or check river a 100% of times, because this relies on our opponents.
Of course professor John Anhalt is very wiser than me, and for sure he had information about its villain to do a donk-river, and he achieved his goal as the hand description shows the villain pull off the strings and jammed right off the bat, and I assumed he called.
What I was humbly trying to say, because I’m don’t own too much expertise, is that GTO based, I would continue checking as I have checked flop and check-raised turn, to avoid too much folding.
By checking the river (having no information about villain) I give it the opportunity to bluff his losing hands, or turning its value hands into bluffs, because villain might assume that hero got scared of the flush and decided to keep the pot small.
And I agree to you, leading this river a 100% of times isn’t a bad idea per se, I’m just offering another perspective.
Thanks a lot for your attention!
 
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That's it i'm giving up

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NL Holdem 0.05(BB)
BTN ($21.98) [VPIP: 21.1% | PFR: 21.1% | AGG: 50% | Hands: 19]
HERO ($13.53) [VPIP: 17.3% | PFR: 13.9% | AGG: 32.9% | Flop Agg: 33.3% | Turn Agg: 37.1% | River Agg: 30.4% | 3-Bet: 4.4% | 4-Bet: 14.6% | Cold Call: 11.1% | Hands: 562147]
BB ($5.38) [VPIP: 0% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 1]
UTG ($9.47) [VPIP: 0% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 1]
HJ ($14.54) [VPIP: 12.3% | PFR: 7.9% | AGG: 40.6% | Flop Agg: 43.4% | Turn Agg: 51.7% | River Agg: 33.3% | 3-Bet: 5.9% | 4-Bet: 0% | Hands: 458]
CO ($2.44) [VPIP: 12% | PFR: 4% | AGG: 33.3% | Hands: 26]

Dealt to Hero: 8 9

UTG Folds, HJ Raises To $0.15, CO Folds, BTN Folds, HERO Calls $0.13,(270bb deep) BB Folds

Hero SPR on Flop: [38.23 effective]

Flop ($0.35): 9 9 6
HERO Checks, HJ Bets $0.20 (Rem. Stack: $14.19), HERO Raises To $0.40 (misclicked was going to raise bigger) (Rem. Stack: $12.98), HJ Raises To $1.25 (Rem. Stack: $13.14), HERO Calls $0.85 (Rem. Stack: $12.13)

Turn ($2.85): 9 9 6 5
HERO Checks, HJ Bets $2.07 (Rem. Stack: $11.07), HERO Calls $2.07 (Rem. Stack: $10.06)

River ($6.99): 9 9 6 5 K
HERO Checks, HJ Bets $4.50 (Rem. Stack: $6.57), HERO Calls $4.50 (Rem. Stack: $5.56)

HJ shows: 6 6

HJ wins: $15.33
I’m not sure if I’m big fan of calling from the SB in this particular situation, because our range is capped and we would have to fold a lot of times to c-bet OOP. However, considering we are deep stacked it’s not the end of the world.
I would assume that with these suited connectors, it is more profitable to be 3-betting or squeezing them preflop.
I also won’t raise this dry flop under the risk of getting too much folds from villain, and being realistic, which hands we do call preflop from the SB that would check-raise a dry flop? We don’t own 99, because most of times we hit quads in this scenario we are not raising giving the fact we have 90% of all possible combos for this dry flop (996).
We also don’t own TT+, for these premium pocket pairs tend to be 3-betting preflop more than flatting.
KJ+, AT+ also would have 3-bet preflop and if they whiffed this flop they would be over bluffing. We don’t own much bluffs on our range, this it becomes a little weird to raise the flop.
Would be raising flop if we had called preflop with 66, having hitting the Full-House? And by doing so, aren’t we turning a strong value hand into a bluff?
I didn’t read the results and I won’t assume anything based on results. I’m just putting pragmatic issues that we should consider before calling preflop from the SB and by doing so we cap our range and we can’t simply raise a dry flop and expect to get calls from what? TT+? Sure, they might called it, but by raising we will get action most of times of hands that are beating us, and the vast majority of times we will get folds and more folds, thus not allowing our very strong trips to build value over worst hands, such as 77, 88, AJ, you name it.
 
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You probably know how I feel about flop check min raises. :)

Against someone this tight, I think you lost the min. Against a lot of opponents, especially since you have the 8, getting it on the flop would be ideal. Calling and CRAI on the turn would also be an option. But against said opponent, think you played it fine.
You have surprised and awed me with your analysis, professor Anhalt! Isn’t this a deep stacked pot???
Could you please explain for us the foundation of your thoughts, if I’m not being too harsh. Thanks!
 
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