*** November Cash Thread ***

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F Paulsson said:
"Hi, FP! Welcome back to poker! We understand you've had a bit of a bad run lately, so we thought we'd take this opportunity to piss on you by having you lose 15 buy-ins your first real month back after your break. But don't worry; you'd have a winning month if your AI EV matched up."

So, in case anyone's keeping tabs, I've now cracked the 60-BI barrier for bad runs in terms of AIEV. What's the record? Would be nice to know what I have to look forward to, because clearly I'm on course to break it.
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pretty sure there are PLO players that have run 200 buy ins below EV
 
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cazique said:
This.

The reason you lost a few buy-ins wasn't that you played Suited Connectors and small pairs too much, it simply was that you put your whole stack in with the second best hand the majority of time. The hand examples you posted in the "Why?" thread told the whole story. In the first hand, you shoved JJ on the TT2 board facing a minraise (Yes, a minraise!!). At that point you can beat nothing but a bluff. If you're up against half competent players there's no way they can raise 33-99 for value there. You'll probably be facing higher overpairs at the very least.

And you always seem to go on tilt even on the slighest resemblance of downswings, which then lead you to make all kinds of change to your play. I still remember the thread where you started folding AK and AQ and the like because you always missed the flop with them! Well I know you have learnt a lot since then but the way you're playing right now, raise/fold poker, dropping Suited Connectors and small medium pairs isn't going to get you very far. There are a lot of circumstances where calling preflop raise instead of 3-betting can be right, e.g. when you have speculative hands in position as 3-betting open yourself to him 4-betting back when he has a monster, denying you the chance to see a cheap flop. Just calling preflop raise with AA,KK, or even AK works too if you know there are squeeze happy players in the blinds, as you can turn the table back on them when they squeeze.

You have read a lot about the game, so put that to good use and stop becoming so result-oriented over a small sample size. Build your BR to about $125, then take another shot at 5NL.
GL at the tables
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I'll admit I sometimes overadjust, especially when I'm trying to incorporate some new concept into my game. I think the problem I was having was I overthinking the game @ 2nl too much. Like the Hegelian Dialectic I always move back to the midpoint between two extremes. It is true however that at 2nl you cannot profitably make alot of the moves that you can and should make at higher levels. By nature and instinct I play very tight, even uber tight; folding AQo & 99 UTG, etc. I gradually moved away from such a tight style with some decent success. My recent downswing really had nothing to do with playing scs, sm pp's rather I just went through thousands of hands where I always seemed to have 2nd best hand by the River, even when I was a heavy favorite preflop and even on the flop. I would like to know how many CC'ers have the emotional control to accept that yes, their AA was no good again and that almost every time there were 3 of the same suit on the board that your oppponent had the flush and almost every time the board paired they had the Full House and almost every time you made a Full House your opponent made a bigger Full House. Can you honestly say that even when your poker instincts were whispering to you; you are probably beat again, that you would listen? That you had the iron discipline to lay down and say, they'll be better spots to get my money in?

I do go on tilt a little easy, but my tilt now is a pale spectre compared to the way I was a few months ago.

Also, guilty as charged about being too results oriented but I'm better there too.

Would you agree, however that chasing Straights in NLHE is a sucker's game as you almost never can get pot odds or implied odds to do so?

BR is $ 110 right now, I've made a really good comeback the last 24 hours. I'll try 5nl soon but just remember there is no dropping down from 2nl, only a rebuy. At every other stakes you can always drop down when you do badly. I'm not depositing another dollar onto Full Tilt.

This is my 2nd attempt to play Poker, I had a brief career playing $ 1/2 home games with a very small sample of online play. That was in 2007/ 2008 but I quit for almost 2 years because I wasn't rolled for the home games and was too stupid to try and study online poker in any serious way, I was a nit preflop and an aggro maniac postflop with predictable results. I am now 110k hands into my 2nd tour and am really enjoying myself but this has only been 3 months in doing. Thanks to Cc my game has improved in ways I could never have imagined but at this point I have no illusions that I am a good poker player, I think in part I am too old and a quarter century of working for a living and raising a family has dulled my sensibilities but I think maybe their is hope. I know that poker has conpletely altered my sleeping patterns. I used to sleep 7 hrs/ night, now I sleep 5 and I wake up at 0330 fully alert and itching to play Poker.

Please keep the critiques coming, like the adversarial process in court room law helps bring justice so the crtiicism here helps my game. I really love all of it (I especially love comments by WV, Stu and of course BELGO!!) :)
 
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Dont worry Fx, you're not the only one who has a hard time laying down AA. One day Ill learn. Thing is I have no probs laying down KK when I know Im beat although to be fair most of my AA beats this month have been by people calling with guttshots and getting there. I keep saying to myself.. "there is no way they called me with a gutshot and got there again... oh, they did, cool." All nl5 6max.

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i dont think there is anything u can do but plow through it FP and try not to get ur game get worse cus of run bad
 
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I love android, never going to be bored anywhere again with rush poker on me phone :D Gave me some run good as well, with no HUD i just played straight forward poker and made some easy $$'s
 
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orangepeeleo said:
I love android, never going to be bored anywhere again with rush poker on me phone :D Gave me some run good as well, with no HUD i just played straight forward poker and made some easy $$'s
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Ditto. Now I can play at work without anyone knowing and can make it look like I'm doing something productive. Make money while making money ;)
 
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absoluthamm said:
Ditto. Now I can play at work without anyone knowing and can make it look like I'm doing something productive. Make money while making money ;)
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Lol, I'm putting in the wireless in our work atm so im getting paid to install something which will help me get paid whilst being paid!!
 
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Full Tilt - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (BTN): $10.00
SB: $11.42
BB: $23.73
UTG: $10.00
CO: $9.57

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has 8:club: A:club:

fold, CO calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.50, fold, BB calls $0.40, CO calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.55, 3 players) 7:club: Q:diamond: J:club:
BB checks, CO bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, fold

Turn: ($2.55, 2 players) 6:spade:
CO bets $0.50, Hero raises to $1.50, CO calls $1.00

River: ($5.55, 2 players) 7:spade:
CO bets $2.00, Hero calls $2.00

CO shows 9:club: T:diamond: (One Pair, Sevens) (PreFlop 42%, Flop 32%, Turn 25%)
Hero shows 8:club: A:club: (One Pair, Sevens) (PreFlop 58%, Flop 68%, Turn 75%)
Hero wins $8.92

Starting to get this poker lark
 
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MaxiRodriguez said:
Full Tilt - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (BTN): $10.00
SB: $11.42
BB: $23.73
UTG: $10.00
CO: $9.57

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has 8♣ A♣

fold, CO calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.50, fold, BB calls $0.40, CO calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.55, 3 players) 7♣ Q♦ J♣
BB checks, CO bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, fold

Turn: ($2.55, 2 players) 6♠
CO bets $0.50, Hero raises to $1.50, CO calls $1.00

River: ($5.55, 2 players) 7♠
CO bets $2.00, Hero calls $2.00

CO shows 9♣ T♦ (One Pair, Sevens) (PreFlop 42%, Flop 32%, Turn 25%)
Hero shows 8♣ A♣ (One Pair, Sevens) (PreFlop 58%, Flop 68%, Turn 75%)
Hero wins $8.92

Starting to get this poker lark
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Huh? You must've peered into the soul of this man.


Tell us more about that.:rolleyes:
 
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I've used NoteCaddy before it was a paid for program and I didn't really like it. It makes very generic notes based on some of the hands you've played, and they don't really help. I know you can go through an customize to your own liking based on whatever stats you want. Maybe I would have liked it more had I done that, but I never put too much time into it. It is a great idea, I guess I just like my own notes more.

Belgo, I believe it just adds on to whatever notes you already have, it doesn't delete what is currently there.
 
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absoluthamm said:
I've used NoteCaddy before it was a paid for program and I didn't really like it. It makes very generic notes based on some of the hands you've played, and they don't really help. I know you can go through an customize to your own liking based on whatever stats you want. Maybe I would have liked it more had I done that, but I never put too much time into it. It is a great idea, I guess I just like my own notes more.

Belgo, I believe it just adds on to whatever notes you already have, it doesn't delete what is currently there.
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I hope I don't come across as spammy but I am the author of NoteCaddy...

I just wanted to comment that since the beta, NoteCaddy has undergone several major updates. Obviously not everyone is going to think it's a great program but the version out now is completely different than the one you used.
 
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Full Tilt - $0+0 Tournament (#0) - Blinds: 0.02/0.05 No Limit Hold'em (9 players)
Full Tilt Hand Converter Tool from CardsChat.com

SB: $7.85
BB: $5.82
UTG: $4.59
MP: $6.05
MP+1 Hero: $6.86
MP+2: $5.73
LP: $18.58
CO: $12.70
BTN: $2.39

Pre-flop: ($0.07) Hero is MP+1 and dealt :kc4: :kd4:
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.12, 4 folds, SB raises to $0.58, BB folds, Hero calls $0.48

Flop: ($1.25) :2h4: :8c4: :7c4: (2 players)
SB bets $1.00, Hero calls $1.00

Turn: ($3.25) :2h4: :8c4: :7c4: :jd4: (2 players)
SB bets $6.25 (All-in), Hero calls $5.26

River: ($14.76) :2h4: :8c4: :7c4: :jd4: :7s4: (2 players)

Final Pot: $14.76

Showdown:
SB shows :ah4: :as4:
Hero shows :kc4: :kd4:
Outcome: MP+1 wins $12.86

Siiigh 3rd time since Saturday... I knew from the start he had it :( hoped I could control the pot by cold calling.. he didn't seem to want to :p
 
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