*** November Cash Thread ***

[cjatud2012]

Yea, actually, I was mostly talking about the villain because he called with it.

oh, hahah, well that's definitely true. Didn't think of it that way

 

[Pascal-lf]

Overvaluing Ace-rag...

He flops two pair and gets outturned in a 3bet pot?

 

[PattyR]

after i get my $50 bonus on stars...im on my way to FTP since im gettin cashback bonus finally!!! wahoo

 

[LuckyChippy]

I posted this link in a cash hand analysis thread but the title was pretty dumb so I don't think it got a lot of looks.

It's the best guide to micro no limit you'll see for a long time:

http://www.groene-appel.nl/moving_th...10_verneer.pdf

 

[MaxiRodriguez]

Link appears to not be working chippy.

 

[LuckyChippy]

I posted this link in a cash hand analysis thread but the title was pretty dumb so I don't think it got a lot of looks.

It's the best guide to micro no limit you'll see for a long time:

http://www.groene-appel.nl/moving_th...10_verneer.pdf

Sorry about that:

http://www.groene-appel.nl/moving_through_uNL_2010_verneer.pdf

 

[Aldito]

Yeah that's a great read, he literally goes through just about every obstacle you might come across in the micros.

 

[absoluthamm]

Yea, actually, I was mostly talking about the villain because he called with it.

He flops two pair and gets outturned in a 3bet pot?

You didn't read through the whole thread.

 

[Pascal-lf]

You didn't read through the whole thread.

Oh no

 

[absoluthamm]

Oh no

Hit a Royal and didn't get shit out of it... Villain had AF of over 5 on all streets so I was hoping for some check-raise, but NOOO... Wasted Royal.
full tilt poker $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1042029]View hand 1042029[/url]
http://www.deucescracked.com/?referrer=converter_phpbb]DeucesCracked Poker Videos[/url] http://www.handconverter.com]Hand History Converter[/url]

BTN: $6.91
SB: $6.84
BB: $4.00
UTG: $9.29
UTG+1: $10.44
UTG+2: $6.67
Hero (MP1): $5.42
MP2: $17.77
CO: $4.63

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is MP1 with Q

[/URL] K

[/URL]
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, 1 fold, CO raises to $0.45, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.97) 9

[/URL] T

[/URL] A

[/URL] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($0.97) J

[/URL] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($0.97) 3

[/URL] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Final Pot: $0.97
Hero shows Q

[/URL] K

[/URL] (a Royal Flush)
CO shows Q

[/URL] Q

[/URL] (a pair of Queens)
Hero wins $0.91
(Rake: $0.06)

 

[absoluthamm]

Woops, don't know why the hell that came out crappy like that...

Full Tilt Poker $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 1042029
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $6.91
SB: $6.84
BB: $4.00
UTG: $9.29
UTG+1: $10.44
UTG+2: $6.67
Hero (MP1): $5.42
MP2: $17.77
CO: $4.63

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is MP1 with Q

K

3 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, 1 fold, CO raises to $0.45, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.97) 9

T

A

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($0.97) J

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($0.97) 3

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Final Pot: $0.97
Hero shows Q

K

(a Royal Flush)
CO shows Q

Q

(a pair of Queens)
Hero wins $0.91
(Rake: $0.06)

 

[BelgoSuisse]

Woops, don't know why the hell that came out crappy like that...

Full Tilt Poker $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 1042029
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $6.91
SB: $6.84
BB: $4.00
UTG: $9.29
UTG+1: $10.44
UTG+2: $6.67
Hero (MP1): $5.42
MP2: $17.77
CO: $4.63

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is MP1 with Q

K

3 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, 1 fold, CO raises to $0.45, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.97) 9

T

A

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($0.97) J

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($0.97) 3

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Final Pot: $0.97
Hero shows Q

K

(a Royal Flush)
CO shows Q

Q

(a pair of Queens)
Hero wins $0.91
(Rake: $0.06)

Nice value you got there...

 

[absoluthamm]

=/ What do you do? His AF gets higher as the streets increase, from 5, 5.5, 7. So am I wrong to expect some sort of bet, especially with the jump on the river? Normally I would not be checking this board at all, but I was really thinking he was going to make a move... oh well.

 

[vanquish]

instead of using some random ass AF stat like a crutch, try betting

 

[Marginal]

=/ What do you do? His AF gets higher as the streets increase, from 5, 5.5, 7. So am I wrong to expect some sort of bet, especially with the jump on the river? Normally I would not be checking this board at all, but I was really thinking he was going to make a move... oh well.

If he no bet the turn, he no bet the river

 

[Suited Frenzy]

Woops, don't know why the hell that came out crappy like that...

Full Tilt Poker $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 1042029
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $6.91
SB: $6.84
BB: $4.00
UTG: $9.29
UTG+1: $10.44
UTG+2: $6.67
Hero (MP1): $5.42
MP2: $17.77
CO: $4.63

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is MP1 with Q

K

3 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, 1 fold, CO raises to $0.45, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.97) 9

T

A

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($0.97) J

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($0.97) 3

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Final Pot: $0.97
Hero shows Q

K

(a Royal Flush)
CO shows Q

Q

(a pair of Queens)
Hero wins $0.91
(Rake: $0.06)

Wow, wtf

 

[LuckyChippy]

Decided to request every HH for NLHE ring games from FT. Came within the day so I'm impressed. Also pretty funny that I tried opening it and it broke notepad from the sheer amount I assume. Thought it might take a while to import but its going all right. The ashes tonight!

 

[LuckyChippy]

Wow it's even grimmer than I thought lol, even though I'm down $50 on deposits (I know because it's been carefully written down) I'm -$751 over 151k hands including 61 buy-ins at 10nl, I'm also down 56 buy-ins at 5nl (WTF) though 30ish buy-ins under EV (DOESN'T MAKE IT ANY BETTER). Those first deposit bonus's + rakeback really do cover it up haha.

Well at least I'm beating 2nl at 6.5bb/100 over 38k hands and I have been recently too.

Lols, starting from the bottom

 

[HomeBrewer]

I just don't understand why I run so bad at 5nl. Every big hand falls, and every villain catches against me. Was soul crushing, so after 4 BI's down I made the switch to 2nl. In half the time I was back to even for the day, then decided it was a good time to walk away. Graph below. Try to guess where I made the switch.

 

[eNTy]

november

 

[fx20736]

I just don't understand why I run so bad at 5nl. Every big hand falls, and every villain catches against me. Was soul crushing, so after 4 BI's down I made the switch to 2nl. In half the time I was back to even for the day, then decided it was a good time to walk away. Graph below. Try to guess where I made the switch.

Don't feel bad, you're not alone. There are several successful 2nl players on this forum who have struggled to make the jump. Wait until you have enough experience and bankroll and try again.

 

[The Dark Side]

Ive been thinking about this ridiculous sum of money that I pay to FTP to play poker there.


What Im wondering is... When do the stakes start covering the rake? Or when does it max out?

Its $3 max right? Im assuming that if 2 50nl players both went allin the final pot would be $97. ?

Ive recently started playing 25nl and Im still not even paying max rake in a 200bb pot.




ALSO. Any amercian players who play for a living around? Is rake considered a business expense that can be written off?

 

[absoluthamm]

Ive been thinking about this ridiculous sum of money that I pay to FTP to play poker there.


What Im wondering is... When do the stakes start covering the rake? Or when does it max out?

Its $3 max right? Im assuming that if 2 50nl players both went allin the final pot would be $97. ?

Ive recently started playing 25nl and Im still not even paying max rake in a 200bb pot.




ALSO. Any amercian players who play for a living around? Is rake considered a business expense that can be written off?

Get rakeback. And I'm not sure if it can be written off as a business expense or not, that would be a good question to ask your tax preparer/attorney(although I am guessing probably not)

 

[WVHillbilly]

ALSO. Any amercian players who play for a living around? Is rake considered a business expense that can be written off?

Can not be deducted. Well I guess it could be but then you'd have to declare your pre rake winnings as income.

 

[The Dark Side]

Get rakeback.

I have rakeback. Andyeah that helps but being a micro player its still hard to survive out there.

Can not be deducted. Well I guess it could be but then you'd have to declare your pre rake winnings as income.

Yeah that makes sense. Guess I didnt think that far ahead.