*** March Cash Game Thread ***

[Dwilius]

After a couple thousand breakeven hands at tilt, moved roll to stars and running like god (+8 buyins in last ~3k hands) while managing to butcher some hands and leave almost another 2 buyins on the table the times I failed to stack someone I should have.

Here's a hand that didn't run so well on, villain was ~40/30 60 afq (100 hands) and from what I'd seen was fully expecting him to call the 3bet wide (so 3 bet bigger, I guess) and barrel his air and of/c big hands, probably not a weak ace...unless I turned my hand face up (JJ-KK) by playing it this way. Basic wa/wb bbv post I suppose...

Stacks:
BB with $31.80
UTG with $23.15
CO with $29.30
BTN with $25.00
SB with $25.35

Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
Site: pokerstars
Dealt to BB:Q♠ Q♥
**Preflop:
UTG calls [$0.25] CO raises $0.50 to $0.75 2 players fold.Hero raises $2 to $2.75 1 players fold.
CO calls [$2]
Potsize: $5.85
**Flop: A♥ 10♠ 3♣
Hero: checks CO bets [$3.50] Hero calls [$3.50]
Potsize: $12.85
**Turn: 4♦
Hero: checks CO bets [$6.75] Hero calls [$6.75]
Potsize: $26.35
**River: K♦
Hero: checks CO: checks
Results:
Hero shows a pair of Queens: Q♠ Q♥
CO shows a pair of Kings: K♥ 8♣ CO collected $25.10 from pot

 

[Johnnybmoto]

lol, I love it when the Bet/Bet/Check when they actually hit their hand.

 

[Jurn8]

cbet>C/C, I hate c/c

 

[Dwilius]

alright, thanks. I suck at finding good hands to post in HA, so just going to post them here for now. Can always move one out if needed.

Is this foolish, not getting folds from better often enough to justify risking that much for it to profit? Villain is 21/7, 30 AFq over a small sample (just this table). I have a blocker to the flush draw and am thinking most likely has a not so great king here? Unlikely I have the best hand if passive opponent is betting on the river (and no other likely draws were out anyway).

Relevant Stacks (6 handed):
BB with $39.45
BTN with $25.00
SB with $37.80

Site: Pokerstars
Dealt to BTN:A♦ 5♣
Preflop:
3 players fold.Hero raises $0.50 to $0.75 SB calls [$0.65] BB calls [$0.50]
Potsize: $2.25
**Flop: K♦ 2♥ 5♦
SB: checks BB: checks Hero bets [$1.25] SB calls [$1.25] 1 players folded.
Potsize: $4.75
**Turn: 4♠
SB: checks Hero: checks
Potsize: $4.75
**River: 10♦
SB bets [$2] Hero raises $5.50 to $7.50

 

[Jurn8]

21/7 just isnt going to fold a K, c/c, c/c donk is usually a v strong line from a passive dude aswell.

Is it really possible for me to be running so shit still.

 

[cAPSLOCK]

I really only see him folding bluffs after that river bet. And I bet it isn't a bluff. He's too passive to do that I think.

 

[Dwilius]

yea, I don't think he's ever completely bluffing, just wondering if healthy river raise scares him off his one pair hands, seemed like a blocking bet...but I guess 21/7s do like to call. I dunno, not as much a complete station as just weak. fwiw he folded this time, but guess shouldn't try that again there.

 

[NineLions]

After a couple thousand breakeven hands at tilt, moved roll to stars and running like god (+8 buyins in last ~3k hands) while managing to butcher some hands and leave almost another 2 buyins on the table the times I failed to stack someone I should have.

Here's a hand that didn't run so well on, villain was ~40/30 60 afq (100 hands) and from what I'd seen was fully expecting him to call the 3bet wide (so 3 bet bigger, I guess) and barrel his air and of/c big hands, probably not a weak ace...unless I turned my hand face up (JJ-KK) by playing it this way. Basic wa/wb bbv post I suppose...

Stacks:
BB with $31.80
UTG with $23.15
CO with $29.30
BTN with $25.00
SB with $25.35

Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
Site: Pokerstars
Dealt to BB:Q♠ Q♥
**Preflop:
UTG calls [$0.25] CO raises $0.50 to $0.75 2 players fold.Hero raises $2 to $2.75 1 players fold.
CO calls [$2]
Potsize: $5.85
**Flop: A♥ 10♠ 3♣
Hero: checks CO bets [$3.50] Hero calls [$3.50]
Potsize: $12.85
**Turn: 4♦
Hero: checks CO bets [$6.75] Hero calls [$6.75]
Potsize: $26.35
**River: K♦
Hero: checks CO: checks
Results:
Hero shows a pair of Queens: Q♠ Q♥
CO shows a pair of Kings: K♥ 8♣ CO collected $25.10 from pot

He was setting you up for when his gutshot comes in, and then on the river he's behind your AK so he just checks ....

 

[Jurn8]

anybody know how many hands per hour you get 4 tabling rush 6max?

 

[cAPSLOCK]

It was something like 300 per table minimum. But since people are now using HUDS (grr) it has dropped some.

 

[blankoblanco]

at FR rush i can get around 1200 hands per hour playing nitty, closer to 1100 if i take my time a little more. i think i've heard at 6max that you can get up to 1400 but not completely sure about that

edit: oh that 1400 number also could have been before HUDs. 1300 seems like a fair estimate though. depends on how loose you play also

 

[Ubercroz]

I don't know that a lot of "weak" K's are in his range here. I don't know how he was playing out of the blinds but if its tight than his K hands are K9, KT, KJ (maybe better don't know his 3bet range, nor do you I would guess).

I would think suited connectors, Ax, Axs, and small pp.

If thats the case, then its weak flushes, wheel draws (with a pair-like you have), the wheel, top pair, and two pair (KT), and sets.

Out of those I would think two-pair, sets, and flushes would bet the river- and I don't know if any fold to the raise.

 

[Jurn8]

ah nice thanks dudes!

you guys think i would get about $2k action on playing 30k hands in 24 hours, 1:1.5 or 1:2 odds?

 

[blankoblanco]

would there be a stipulation that you have to show a profit? i think that part is crucial or else it might be hard to get action

 

[Jurn8]

Im undecided on that part which is the crucial part lol, I think 30k hands in 24 hours is pretty ****ing hard as it is and would get 1:1.5 i feel.

 

[S93]

anybody know how many hands per hour you get 4 tabling rush 6max?

Obvs if your gonna be playing rush for a volume prob u should play 6max but if if your just thinking about playing rush i would go with FR(and i hate FR).
You can make money at rush by nitting it up so there is no need to play 6max.
Just my 2cents.

 

[switch0723]

without the stipulation of profit it will be super tough to get action, since you can technically just fold 30k hands

 

[GeoffLacey]

you won't get action without the profit stipulation. certainly won't get odds in your favour

 

[Jurn8]

is 6max rush harder or something?

I just did some math and realised I can earn more rakeback playing 6max rush than I am on Ipoker with 50% RB, sigh.

~1300 hands per hour 4 tabling rush 6max
~1200 per hour 4 tabling rush FR

 

[S93]

no just more varience and you have to pay more blinds(which obvs is balanced by the fact u play more hands but u get what im saying)

 

[Jurn8]

yeah I get ya bro, I will maybe give FR a go, I just get abit lost in FR since people always has de ****in nutz!

See how 6max goes first

 

[Wes747]

Jurn....you can play more than 4 tables of rush. If you tossed in a 5th or 6th table you could play more hands per hour. I've played 5 without a problem. (obviously you'd have to play different stakes, because you can only have 4 at each stake)

 

[Johnnybmoto]

Moved up to 5NL so far so good.


First graph is 2NL, Second is 5NL

 

[marknz88]

Nice work Johnny! My graphs at 2NL and 5NL both go in the opposite direction :<!

 

[blankoblanco]

[x] villain put me on 76o after reading my critically acclaimed strategy guide to playing it

Full Tilt, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

MP2: $131.10 (131.1 bb)
Hero (MP3): $120.95 (121 bb)
CO: $97 (97 bb)
BTN: $103.30 (103.3 bb)
SB: $230.95 (231 bb)
BB: $36.55 (36.6 bb)
UTG+1: $68.50 (68.5 bb)
UTG+2: $156.75 (156.8 bb)
MP1: $126.20 (126.2 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is MP3 with A:diamond: A:heart:
UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises to $3.50, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $3.50, Hero raises to $15.50, CO folds, BTN calls $15.50, 4 folds

Flop: ($39.50) J:heart: A:spade: K:club: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $23, Hero raises to $105.45 and is all-in, BTN calls $64.80 and is all-in

Turn: ($215.10) 9:club: (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($215.10) 2:diamond: (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $215.10 pot ($3 rake)
Hero showed A:diamond: A:heart: (three of a kind, Aces) and won $212.10 ($108.80 net)
BTN showed 8:spade: 8:diamond: (a pair of Eights) and lost (-$103.30 net)