Matt Vaughan
King of Moody Rants
Bronze Level
Erm, except 1/2 players don't raise vs. bets as bluffs even close to as often as they just make stabs. I'm not saying he's not capable of it EVER, but I don't think it's a line he takes here that often. Also, limp/caller checks his entire range on this flop, so I don't think that's a reason for other villain to not bet.
duggs
Killing me softly
Silver Level
We gave him credit for being a good hand reader, but not for being able to ever raise?
It doesn't give him a reason not to bet but it means bets less of his air than he would HU
Ducky7
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (BTN): $13.70
SB: $54.95 (VPIP: 34.29, PFR: 21.90, 3Bet Preflop: 2.56, Hands: 109)
BB: $12.81 (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
UTG: $10.15 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
MP: $5.52 (VPIP: 4.88, PFR: 2.44, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 41)
CO: $14.41 (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)
SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has 4:club: A:club:
fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.25, SB calls $0.20, BB calls $0.15
Flop: ($0.75, 3 players) 6:diamond: Q:club: 7:club:
SB checks, BB bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, fold
Turn: ($1.75, 2 players) 6:club:
BB bets $1.20, Hero raises to $3.30, BB raises to $8.50, Hero raises to $12.95 and is all-in, BB calls $3.56 and is all-in
This is a pretty grim one coz I feel like his only combo is 7s but we kinda feel commited with what he has left, having said that looking at HH i feel like i spazzed here and should fold... opinions :s? **** i play bad
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (BTN): $13.70
SB: $54.95 (VPIP: 34.29, PFR: 21.90, 3Bet Preflop: 2.56, Hands: 109)
BB: $12.81 (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
UTG: $10.15 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
MP: $5.52 (VPIP: 4.88, PFR: 2.44, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 41)
CO: $14.41 (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)
SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has 4:club: A:club:
fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.25, SB calls $0.20, BB calls $0.15
Flop: ($0.75, 3 players) 6:diamond: Q:club: 7:club:
SB checks, BB bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, fold
Turn: ($1.75, 2 players) 6:club:
BB bets $1.20, Hero raises to $3.30, BB raises to $8.50, Hero raises to $12.95 and is all-in, BB calls $3.56 and is all-in
This is a pretty grim one coz I feel like his only combo is 7s but we kinda feel commited with what he has left, having said that looking at HH i feel like i spazzed here and should fold... opinions :s? **** i play bad
Ducky7
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
Deep river spot, dno whats up with sizing pre, was planning on calling most rivers to a decent size bet and then....
PokerStars - $0.10 Ante $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BB: $10.61 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
UTG: $8.80 (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
CO: $25.00 (VPIP: 30.77, PFR: 30.77, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
BTN: $28.48 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
Hero (SB): $25.00
Hero posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10, 5 players post ante of $0.02
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.25) Hero has T:diamond: 8:diamond:
fold, CO raises to $0.40, BTN calls $0.40, Hero raises to $2.15, fold, CO calls $1.75, BTN calls $1.75
Flop: ($6.65, 3 players) 9:diamond: 8:heart: 6:heart:
Hero checks, CO bets $4.80, fold, Hero calls $4.80
Turn: ($16.25, 2 players) 9:spade:
Hero checks, CO checks
River: ($16.25, 2 players) Q:spade:
Hero checks, CO bets $18.03 and is all-in, Hero :s
PokerStars - $0.10 Ante $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BB: $10.61 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
UTG: $8.80 (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
CO: $25.00 (VPIP: 30.77, PFR: 30.77, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
BTN: $28.48 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
Hero (SB): $25.00
Hero posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10, 5 players post ante of $0.02
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.25) Hero has T:diamond: 8:diamond:
fold, CO raises to $0.40, BTN calls $0.40, Hero raises to $2.15, fold, CO calls $1.75, BTN calls $1.75
Flop: ($6.65, 3 players) 9:diamond: 8:heart: 6:heart:
Hero checks, CO bets $4.80, fold, Hero calls $4.80
Turn: ($16.25, 2 players) 9:spade:
Hero checks, CO checks
River: ($16.25, 2 players) Q:spade:
Hero checks, CO bets $18.03 and is all-in, Hero :s
Mr Sandbag
Legend
Silver Level
I'm usually pretty reluctant to stack off with a flush on a paired board. It just never seems to work out for me.
Matt Vaughan
King of Moody Rants
Bronze Level
Lol yeah what? 10nl?
First hand though, when he 3bets turn it looks like a good spot for a fold. Like I think he only has 3 or 4 worse flush combos (KJ, JT, T9, and 98?) and I'd be discounting those anyway since he def doesn't donk flop 100% with them if ever.
Second hand, river looks like another pretty awesome spot to fold imo but I prob spaz-click call.
First hand though, when he 3bets turn it looks like a good spot for a fold. Like I think he only has 3 or 4 worse flush combos (KJ, JT, T9, and 98?) and I'd be discounting those anyway since he def doesn't donk flop 100% with them if ever.
Second hand, river looks like another pretty awesome spot to fold imo but I prob spaz-click call.
long_bong
Legend
Silver Level
Gonna post a hand, let me know thoughts on my line.
Pacific $100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2404409
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter
CO: $163.71 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 14, 3B: 5, AF: 2.9, Hands: 1102
BTN: $184.51 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 19, 3B: 11, AF: 2.1, Hands: 315
SB: $86.88 - VPIP: 28, PFR: 13, 3B: 10, AF: 6.0, Hands: 166
BB: $101.50 - VPIP: 13, PFR: 11, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, Hands: 82
Hero (UTG): $78.50 - VPIP: 32, PFR: 17, 3B: 4, AF: 2.3, Hands: 21491
MP: $35.48 - VPIP: 45, PFR: 9, 3B: 4, AF: 1.6, Hands: 65
Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is UTG with 9
J
Hero calls $1, 2 folds, BTN raises to $4.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $3.50
Flop: ($10.50) 6
A
8
(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $5.25, Hero raises to $11, BTN calls $5.75
Turn: ($32.50) 6
(2 players)
Hero bets $13.00, BTN calls $13
River: ($58.50) 3
(2 players)
Hero bets $50.00, BTN folds
Pacific $100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2404409
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter
CO: $163.71 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 14, 3B: 5, AF: 2.9, Hands: 1102
BTN: $184.51 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 19, 3B: 11, AF: 2.1, Hands: 315
SB: $86.88 - VPIP: 28, PFR: 13, 3B: 10, AF: 6.0, Hands: 166
BB: $101.50 - VPIP: 13, PFR: 11, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, Hands: 82
Hero (UTG): $78.50 - VPIP: 32, PFR: 17, 3B: 4, AF: 2.3, Hands: 21491
MP: $35.48 - VPIP: 45, PFR: 9, 3B: 4, AF: 1.6, Hands: 65
Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is UTG with 9
Hero calls $1, 2 folds, BTN raises to $4.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $3.50
Flop: ($10.50) 6
Hero checks, BTN bets $5.25, Hero raises to $11, BTN calls $5.75
Turn: ($32.50) 6
Hero bets $13.00, BTN calls $13
River: ($58.50) 3
Hero bets $50.00, BTN folds
duggs
Killing me softly
Silver Level
pre is horrible, hate post since our value range of A6/A8/88/66 just got waaaay thinner on that turn (especially if he has an A in his hand, which he probably does, range is pretty AJ+ heavy. turn+river sizing combo makes no sense to me
long_bong
Legend
Silver Level
O yes I agree pre is like wtf am I even in this hand for? lmfao
And his sizing on flop dugggs do you ever think its fishy? I mean its kinda small for the wet boared texture isn't it?
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long_bong
Legend
Silver Level
LMFAO what u think Im some noob Duece?< don't answer that LMFAO
888 poker has a shit delay on top ups, musta have been in que for beginning of next hand
I top up if I hit 99$ lmfao! it just mentally tilts me knowing im loosing value if I get into a hand with anything less than 100bb
long_bong
Legend
Silver Level
tbh I think I min raised here on flop because I started the hand with like I think 75ish bb, so I didn't have enough chips behind to not commit fully to my bluff if that makes sense? I know it sounds like an excuse, but I am not trying to look for an excuse here. I honestly think it was because of my effective stack, and getting information on his strength of his hand, but then again now that I think about it I'd be happy with not min raising and maybe raising bigger here and if I get repoped I should be happy getting it in on these flops with flush draws.. So Again I dunno wtf I am doing I guess in this spot. Maybe This is good for me to wake the f up! and take better lines in these spots.
WoW posting hands really does make you see your f ups eh! :/
Matt Vaughan
King of Moody Rants
Bronze Level
Gotta be honest here: even on a soft site, if you're limp/calling preflop UTG without some very specific reason relating to your overall strategy, then you need to take a big step back and work on your preflop game.
As for his sizing looking "fishy on a wet board," idk that I necessarily agree with that. His reasoning might be that your range is weak and so he wants to keep 8x and 6x in. Or, he might just bet 1/2 pot regardless of board texture in general. It's not like his stats are shaping up to be that good.
As for his sizing looking "fishy on a wet board," idk that I necessarily agree with that. His reasoning might be that your range is weak and so he wants to keep 8x and 6x in. Or, he might just bet 1/2 pot regardless of board texture in general. It's not like his stats are shaping up to be that good.
Blobweird123
CC's very own Dead Head
Silver Level
How come? 22/19 with 11% 3bet doesnt seem bad to me at all. His 3bet is a tad on the big side, but if he's positionally aware and doing it in the right spots it's fine.
Can't really give too much thought to the hand since its just played so unorthodox. Probs just folding pre since BTN/SB 3bet a ton. But yeah, dont limp/call utg lol. Just makes every decision harder. Like if we just opened, we cbet flop and its ez game.