How many people say "i Hate A/A"?

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Steveg72

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I hear so many people say I hate A/A I never win....BECAUSE U SLOW PLAY IT!!

I would rather win the blinds than nothing....A/A in early tournament play is a no brainer all in....GET THOSE PEOPLE TO FOLD...and stop crying when u slow play A/A and lose!!!
 
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yeah i never slowplay it, but it seems like a lot of times i pick it up and bet big, get raised all in by JJ or something and they hit a set. i seems to never win for me
 
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people lose with AA not because they slow play it...most of the time the lose with AA because they misplay their hand. AA is a great hand to slow play with if its played right before the flop and afterwards. more often then not a high pair will win the pot, more likely then a straight flush, boat, etc...so AA is a really strong hand. so, use the advantage of the hands strength to win as much money as you can. its not gonna win all the time, because someone could get flop lucky and beat you but AA has a huge advantage and is a favorite against a lot of hands so in the long run AA will win more ofthen then not (if played correctly). i'd rather try and win the blinds JJ and be happy then to just settle for the blinds with AA.

i dont hate AA, its just i dont like playing them. great, i have the strongest starting hand, now i have to figure out how to make as much money as i can. most of the time, i only take down a mid size pot, which isnt bad, but i can never seem to build the pot up nice and big...
 
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Steveg72 said:
I hear so many people say I hate A/A I never win....BECAUSE U SLOW PLAY IT!!

I would rather win the blinds than nothing....A/A in early tournament play is a no brainer all in....GET THOSE PEOPLE TO FOLD...and stop crying when u slow play A/A and lose!!!
i dont see how you can hate them, u can get screwed if u play them wrong but a majority of the time they will win
 
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Many players lose with AA because they are are too stubborn and will not fold the hand under any circumstances. I've seen players who re-raise with AA with a board like 8-9-10-J-x before. They get frustrated and bet to try and "avenge" the bad luck of getting dealt the best STARTING hand in hold'em. AA may be the best hand before the flop, but even a 72off can beat AA if the rigth cards come. Too many players just can't let go; they feel that the AA is invincible.
 
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You could argue that being too aggressive with rockets which gets everybody to fold preflop is a bad strategy because relatively speaking you haven't won anything. Slow playing aces gets you into trouble because a limper might hit a homerun on the flop. The best strategy is assess your opponents and make your preflop bet so that you will get yourself heads up. At that point it all depends on the board how you bet. I will almost always over bet the pot if I am checked to or raise to at least a pot bet if I act first. Because you want to show strength without trapping yourself, while gaining as much information about your opponents hand as you can, ie paying attention to how long they take to act and what the size of their bet is. The key is to not pot commit yourself and have the disipline to fold rockets if you feel you are beat
 
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obviusly u can play it slow, u just have to see the flop make anothe big bet, and retired when u dont have it, must ppl see they dont have the hand, and just coz the got the poket rockets they dont want ot fold
 
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i finally got to use em in a good situation....i personally don't like em for going all in and trappin myself with only A pair high...usually it's gonna win but like lot of ppl are saying you need to kinda get a feel for how exactly you should play em...i'm not gonna explain how i play em...ppl play em so many ways...but...

back to my situation...which is prolly my favorite....

i'm in like 7th position or 8th p and i raised double the blinds to see if anyone would re-raise the hand to see if anyone had any pockets...cuz usually someone will re-raise or go all-in if they think you're buying the pot or if they think their hands invinsible or not....

but i raised and 3 ppl called and the fourth raised double my raise so then i raised about 10 times what he raised or so almost goin all in and he just called me...now i'm putting him on pockets....flop was garbage for me and for him...turn bb raise, river bb raise and i went all in and he folded...turn and river didn't help either of us....he was holding 8's and i won a nice pot...i think this is one of the hard situations but having rockets with him not raising...why would he slow play me...we already went this far right? so i thought he was just testing me to see if i had something on the board so all inned and he folded...i think highest on the board was a J....which i was scared cuz almost everytime i go all in on Ace's i lose to pocket Jacks. but was a hard play but usually it will win....this was one of my rare cases winning with em...

i think ppl should just raise like 400 to a 20 dollar bb.....and see if anyone calls heh...play em safe but effective...cuz if someone was gonna go all in anyways or play a good hand...they'd play it if you went all in too...most ppl at least it seems...

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Slow playing AA.. for ME at least the only way to go..

Steveg72 said:
I hear so many people say I hate A/A I never win....BECAUSE U SLOW PLAY IT!!

I would rather win the blinds than nothing....A/A in early tournament play is a no brainer all in....GET THOSE PEOPLE TO FOLD...and stop crying when u slow play A/A and lose!!!
Maybe it's just a curse or somethin personal about me LOL but no matter how often I feel like Queen of the World with AA on the deal, I NEVER go all in pre-flop with that hand because I will invariably fall victim to two pair.

Slow play gives you the chance to see the flop and decide if THEN you are ready to go all in.

I don't mind all in after a flop... heck I almost always make more money that way. But all in pre-flop with AA has, historically, done nothing for me but make me cry.

J. Rabbit :cool:
 
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i have learned the hard way that slow playing A/A will more times than not blow up in your face i have since played A/A very aggressively i would rather take the blinds then lose the pot especially in the later stages of a tournament
 
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Nothing wrong with slow-playing AA preflop. After the flop, read the board, see what the possibilities are against you and bet the hand accordingly. If there's no pairs, low cards and a rainbow, maybe make a small bet again. Then drop the hammer. If the board can hurt you, don't give anybody a cheap draw.
 
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i hate pocket pairs period. i guess because i play more omaha (high only- high/low is so not cool) than hold em.
 
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online, i get nothing but bad beats. run into small trips or stupid straights. But in live play, its a god send
 
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Quite frankly I think A/A can be a dangerous hand even if played strong. Because people tend to ignore the table cards. But I think it is more likely that people will be overconfident with A/K than with A/A strangely enough...
 
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i think with pocket aces the best way to win is to push people around before the flop
 
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hottnybz69

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I only hate A/A when i have 4 all-ins before i get to even considering making a call. As bad as you wanna show em all up with your rockets.. you will STILL lose.
 
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To me the challenge with AA is getting enough customers to make the round really worth it. Ill normally raise (nothing big) and have a look at the flop. If it looks good ill try to sneak along with check, call and small raise till i hopefully get one or more opponent committed. Then the fun starts. Stealth AA's rock for taking out opponents :)

(Explainer: Got two opponents interested by slow playing till after the turn. Opponent then raises with a good stack. You have him in a place where most people hate to back out. So if my pocket AA's still look good, ill big raise / all in and sit back and watch him curse me in the chat when his stack moves to me).
 
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Its not just that they slow play it, its tehy slow play it at the wrong time, or they dont know their opponents so its harder for them to read and make bets against different players!
 
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i say "i love AA" anyone who doesnt, just doesnt play them right. everyone will lose from time to time with AA, but that doesnt mean they'er cursed, that means probability is getting the best of you.
 
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Everyone always talks about slow playing too many hands. Slow playing is a great strategy but it is really over done now. With all the television poker coverage and seeing the pros do it once in a while and winning with it, alot of beginners think that it is the best and most profitable way to win a hand. Slow play can make you look really silly though if you let a blind in with a really junky hand like 7 - 2 and hit 2 pair on the flop.

I have always believed that the situation dictates the way to play. Early in a tournament I will not go all in with anything before the flop, and barely ever on the flop. I want to be atleast 90% sure that I have got the best hand. But I do throw in a sizeable raaise before the flop to protect my hand and get those garbage hands out of there. I believe that betting for hand protection is one of the most important moves in no limit hold'em. It gives you the chance to get the drawing hands out.

It does seem to work better with experienced players than rookies though. Rookies seem to think that 4 cards suited or connected (whether open ended or gut) are a guaranteed hit. The worst part is that 1 in 7 times they will shaft you with it.
 
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I agree with you. People have to stop slowplaying them and they will realize they will stop getting the limpers in and they will win more pots.
 
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with pocket A's you also want to remember that you never want more than one or at most two people with you on the flop. Heads up youre at least a 3-1 favorite against any other starting hand but with 4 or 5 people seeing the flop you are still the favourite against every individual player but a far less than 50% favourite to win the hand.
 
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i used to say AA was overrated until i realised one day that it was maybe me that was playing it wrong and at times i was,if you have your read on the table AA is an easy hand to win with i think.I also think like everyone else is a very hard hand to fold after flop but if you know your beat it HAS to be laid down,i made a huge mistake not doing just that in a real money game so time ago" i was dealt AA i raised preflop to around 400 and was instantly reraised by the next player to call he re-raised me to 840 i put him on a high pkt pair str8 away so i flat called his re-raise ,the flop came K,Q and a low card i new he had tripped but i refused to lay down my AA he pushed me all in & i made the loosest move and called he took me out of the tourny with trip queens,some people may say i should have called all in preflop but my read on the player standing as large stack was that after reraising me he would have called anyway so the outcome would have been the same." What i should have done was lay down my AA b4 the turn knowing i was beat,the good thing i took away with me was learning the hard way when to fold AA and was happy that i had read the player correctly,but i disagree with AA being slow played or aggressively played until you use the read on the table then you should decide...sunshine.
 
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Folks, the message on AA is simple: It is an All-In Hand pre-flop...period. The percentages of AA losing on the draw is still the lowest on the board. Does it lose? Of course it loses! Just like KK loses, QQ loses, A-high straight loses to a flush, a full house loses to quads. But the odds are in your favor when you see American Airlines taking off from your pocket. And poker is a game of percentages. Slow play them and die. Go heavy and take your (good) chances.
 
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nadirhassan said:
with pocket A's you also want to remember that you never want more than one or at most two people with you on the flop. Heads up youre at least a 3-1 favorite against any other starting hand but with 4 or 5 people seeing the flop you are still the favourite against every individual player but a far less than 50% favourite to win the hand.

Which is exactly why you go All-In pre-flop without fail. Chase the chasers out of the hand before it even starts. Good advice, nadir.
 
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