dsvw56
I'm a Taurus
Silver Level
3x IP and 3.5x OOP or bigger if they have a low fold to 3bet %, adjust to opponents!
In other news I just purchased a new domain and will be setting up a new rakeback sitepumped!
Can you get me RB at FTP? If not, I don't care
PattyR
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
thanks for the link jurn
poker stars $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 522251
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
MP: $20.33
CO: $4.62
Hero (BTN): $16.19
SB: $18.54
BB: $31.55
UTG: $18.50
Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BTN with 9 :club: 9 :spade:
1 fold, MP raises to $20.33 all in, 1 fold, Hero calls $16.19 all in, 2 folds
Flop: ($32.45) J :spade: T :spade: 2 :diamond: (2 players - 2 are all in)
Turn: ($32.45) 3 :club: (2 players - 2 are all in)
River: ($32.45) 5 :spade: (2 players - 2 are all in)
Final Pot: $32.45
MP shows K :diamond: 7 :spade: (high card King)
Hero shows 9 :club: 9 :spade: (a pair of Nines)
Hero wins $30.85
(Rake: $1.60)
poker stars $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 522251
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
MP: $20.33
CO: $4.62
Hero (BTN): $16.19
SB: $18.54
BB: $31.55
UTG: $18.50
Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BTN with 9 :club: 9 :spade:
1 fold, MP raises to $20.33 all in, 1 fold, Hero calls $16.19 all in, 2 folds
Flop: ($32.45) J :spade: T :spade: 2 :diamond: (2 players - 2 are all in)
Turn: ($32.45) 3 :club: (2 players - 2 are all in)
River: ($32.45) 5 :spade: (2 players - 2 are all in)
Final Pot: $32.45
MP shows K :diamond: 7 :spade: (high card King)
Hero shows 9 :club: 9 :spade: (a pair of Nines)
Hero wins $30.85
(Rake: $1.60)
thepokerkid123
Visionary
Silver Level
Wow, I've never seen so many 300bb+ stacks at one table online before.
Deep stacked I assume, what is the maximum buy in?
Nice call with the 9's btw.
C
cAPSLOCK
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
The most famous 2nl grinder perhaps?
My "brush with fame"?? Hrm.
pokerstars, $0.01/0.02 NO Limit Texas Holdem Cash Games, 6 Players
Hand Converter by Pokerhand.org
Board:
farttXXalk45 (SB): $2.64
techieXX2010 (BB): $3.61
hERO(UTG): $4.87
FILxxJAC (UTG+1): $.88
OnagerXX923 (CO): $2.72
ChrisXXFromNH (Button): $2.22
Dealt to hERO 5:heart: 4:heart:
Pre-flop:
hERO raises to $.06, (3 folds), fartXXtalk45 calls $.05, (1 folds)
Flop: ($.14) J:heart: A:spade: 9:spade: (2 Players)
fartXXtalk45 checks, hERO bets $.08, (1 folds), hERO returns $.08
Results:
hERO wins $.14
My "brush with fame"?? Hrm.
pokerstars, $0.01/0.02 NO Limit Texas Holdem Cash Games, 6 Players
Hand Converter by Pokerhand.org
Board:
farttXXalk45 (SB): $2.64
techieXX2010 (BB): $3.61
hERO(UTG): $4.87
FILxxJAC (UTG+1): $.88
OnagerXX923 (CO): $2.72
ChrisXXFromNH (Button): $2.22
Dealt to hERO 5:heart: 4:heart:
Pre-flop:
hERO raises to $.06, (3 folds), fartXXtalk45 calls $.05, (1 folds)
Flop: ($.14) J:heart: A:spade: 9:spade: (2 Players)
fartXXtalk45 checks, hERO bets $.08, (1 folds), hERO returns $.08
Results:
hERO wins $.14
KerouacsDog
Legend
Silver Level
gl bud, with that, give me a PM when ur ready and I'll come sign-up?3x IP and 3.5x OOP or bigger if they have a low fold to 3bet %, adjust to opponents!
In other news I just purchased a new domain and will be setting up a new rakeback site
KD
aesopdurasic
Rock Star
Silver Level
todays session was actually one of the best sessions i had at 10nl. i played for about 2 hours roughly 4 tabling and put in a little over 900 hands. here is my graph for today's hands and stats. i hope to have more sessions like this. i had help pluggin a few leaks and so far its actually worked, so i am going to stick with it and hopefully put up more sessions like this in the future.
slycbnew
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
Yo folks - did you complete your assignment???
M
marknz88
Rock Star
Silver Level
I haven't really found any interesting hands to put up for discussion (im sure there are some, but filtering them in PT3 is taking me a while).
All the ones I found I either got my money in good and sucked out, or did something really stupid that I shouldn't have and know what not to do.
I'll give it another look and see what I can find.
Maybe my 3Bet pots would be a good place to start...
M
marknz88
Rock Star
Silver Level
Ok heres my 2/3rds homework done
https://www.cardschat.com/forum/cash-game-hand-analysis-50/4-nl-he-full-ring-4-a-170269/#post1404074
https://www.cardschat.com/forum/cash-game-hand-analysis-50/4-nl-he-6-max-nl-170268/
First ever hand history posts so excuse the average situations (its harder than you think looking through your database to find hands worthy of posting that aren't bad beats or plain stupidity )
https://www.cardschat.com/forum/cash-game-hand-analysis-50/4-nl-he-full-ring-4-a-170269/#post1404074
https://www.cardschat.com/forum/cash-game-hand-analysis-50/4-nl-he-6-max-nl-170268/
First ever hand history posts so excuse the average situations (its harder than you think looking through your database to find hands worthy of posting that aren't bad beats or plain stupidity
)
WVHillbilly
Legend
Silver Level
Ok heres my 2/3rds homework done
https://www.cardschat.com/forum/cash-game-hand-analysis-50/4-nl-he-full-ring-4-a-170269/#post1404074
https://www.cardschat.com/forum/cash-game-hand-analysis-50/4-nl-he-6-max-nl-170268/
First ever hand history posts so excuse the average situations (its harder than you think looking through your database to find hands worthy of posting that aren't bad beats or plain stupidity
You don't need to find hands that you lost to post them. There can be tons of value in getting help even if you won the hand because perhaps you could have played it differently to win more $$. Just think back to hands where you questioned what to do and those are the hands you should be posting.
No Brainer
Losing keeps me sane
Silver Level
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.05(BB) Replayer
SB ($2.68)
BB ($4.65)
UTG ($2.34)
UTG+1 ($6.24)
UTG+2 ($3.87)
MP1 ($14.40)
MP2 ($5.53)
Hero ($5.25)
BTN ($3.98)
Dealt to Hero K♠ K♦
fold, fold, fold, MP1 raises to $0.17, MP2 calls $0.17, Hero raises to $0.70, fold, fold, fold, fold, MP2 calls $0.53
FLOP ($1.64) Q♦ 6♣ 7♣
MP2 checks, Hero bets $1.30, MP2 raises to $3.28, Hero raises to $4.55 (AI), MP2 calls $1.27
TURN ($10.74) Q♦ 6♣ 7♣ 4♣
RIVER ($10.74) Q♦ 6♣ 7♣ 4♣ T♣
Hero shows K♠ K♦
(Pre 77%, Flop 25.5%, Turn 18.2%)
MP2 shows 7♥ 6♥
(Pre 23%, Flop 74.5%, Turn 81.8%)
MP2 wins $10.03
Hero pulls his hair out...
NL Holdem $0.05(BB) Replayer
SB ($2.68)
BB ($4.65)
UTG ($2.34)
UTG+1 ($6.24)
UTG+2 ($3.87)
MP1 ($14.40)
MP2 ($5.53)
Hero ($5.25)
BTN ($3.98)
Dealt to Hero K♠ K♦
fold, fold, fold, MP1 raises to $0.17, MP2 calls $0.17, Hero raises to $0.70, fold, fold, fold, fold, MP2 calls $0.53
FLOP ($1.64) Q♦ 6♣ 7♣
MP2 checks, Hero bets $1.30, MP2 raises to $3.28, Hero raises to $4.55 (AI), MP2 calls $1.27
TURN ($10.74) Q♦ 6♣ 7♣ 4♣
RIVER ($10.74) Q♦ 6♣ 7♣ 4♣ T♣
Hero shows K♠ K♦
(Pre 77%, Flop 25.5%, Turn 18.2%)
MP2 shows 7♥ 6♥
(Pre 23%, Flop 74.5%, Turn 81.8%)
MP2 wins $10.03
Hero pulls his hair out...
slycbnew
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
lulz... I was going to say that you 3bet pf too large in position before I got to the results section, but obv I was wrong...
No Brainer
Losing keeps me sane
Silver Level
Yeh well there was a raiser and caller, MP1 with fairly tight solid stats and MP2 with looser fishier stats.
On the flop I thought he had A,Q or maybe I was up against aces but I was shoving either way.... Couldn't believe it when I seen the two pair...
On the flop I thought he had A,Q or maybe I was up against aces but I was shoving either way.... Couldn't believe it when I seen the two pair...
slycbnew
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
This is an excellent point gang. As you're developing your game, it's looking for and exploiting small edges that will have the biggest impact on your winrate.
fwiw, I think most ring game HA posts miss this point - they tend to focus on the big (and losing) pots rather than extracting value...
Side note - I'm dying to sweat someone who plays a 20/17-ish to 24/19-ish style effectively - one of my biggest missed opportunities (i.e., not extracting enough value) is simply that I'm not playing enough hands/marginal situations (I'm a natural nit). If anyone's willing, pls pm me.
M
marknz88
Rock Star
Silver Level
Ok heres tonights games interesting/tricky situations (I dont want to post them all in the HA section as there's quiet a few + a lot are just very basic things that I would like to know if I'm getting into situations I shouldn't)
So here's a typical nights work (dropping 2-3 buy-ins most days)
And now the hands I wasn't to sure what to do next/found my self in some trouble:
full tilt poker $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
Hero (BB): $2.00
UTG: $3.10
MP: $1.95
CO: $2.92
BTN: $1.72
SB: $1.53
CO posts a big blind ($0.02)
Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero is BB with Q
A
UTG calls $0.02, 1 fold, CO checks, 1 fold, SB raises to $0.10, Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, SB calls $0.20
Flop: ($0.65) 7
3
6
(2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks
Turn: ($0.65) T
(2 players)
SB bets $0.34, Hero folds
Not really sure what to do here...Set of 10's? guessing fold is standard
Full Tilt Poker $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
SB: $1.81
BB: $2.01
UTG: $4.50
MP: $2.88
Hero (CO): $2.81
BTN: $2.10
Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is CO with A
J
UTG calls $0.02, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.08, 3 folds, UTG calls $0.06
Flop: ($0.19) Q
4
7
(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks
Turn: ($0.19) A
(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks
River: ($0.19) J
(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.15, UTG raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $2.73 all in, UTG calls $2.33
Final Pot: $5.65
UTG shows 4
4
(three of a kind, Fours)
Hero shows A
J
(two pair, Aces and Jacks)
UTG wins $5.28
(Rake: $0.37)
I'm guessing I should have bet the A and then the J? He was never going to fold the set, so I would of just value towned my self?
Full Tilt Poker $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
BTN: $4.51
SB: $2.39
BB: $2.72
Hero (UTG): $2.00
CO: $2.07
Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG with K
A
Hero raises to $0.06, CO raises to $0.46, 3 folds, Hero raises to $2 all in, CO calls $1.54
Flop: ($4.03) 7
7
3
Turn: ($4.03) 2
River: ($4.03) 8
Standard to get it in here? He had QQ if anyone wants to know.
Full Tilt Poker $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
SB: $2.81
BB: $3.76
UTG: $2.00
CO: $2.26
Hero (BTN): $2.10
Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BTN with K
A
UTG raises to $0.07, CO calls $0.07, Hero raises to $0.28, 3 folds, CO calls $0.21
Flop: ($0.66) 5
3
A
(2 players)
CO checks, Hero requests TIME, Hero bets $0.50, CO raises to $1.98 all in, Hero requests TIME, Hero folds
Not really sure on this. Only thing I could think was they flopped a flush? Villian was 10/6 over 31 hands. Trips are out of his range?
Full Tilt Poker $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
UTG: $2.90
CO: $3.76
BTN: $2.00
SB: $2.28
Hero (BB): $2.00
Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with Q
Q
UTG calls $0.02, 2 folds, SB calls $0.01, Hero raises to $0.10, UTG calls $0.08, 1 fold
Flop: ($0.22) 2
8
J
(2 players)
Hero bets $0.18, UTG folds
Value bet too large here? or is this not even a value betting spot?
And just to top of the post heres my overall winnings...What I really love about it is that the last 1k hands where I have been really trying to think about these things has seen a rapid decline LOL clearly I'm doing it all wrong. Last 1k hands I've only been 2 tabling 6 max where as from hands 4k-15ish I was 4-6 tabling, just playing hands rather than players/position.
Any input appreciated
So here's a typical nights work (dropping 2-3 buy-ins most days)
And now the hands I wasn't to sure what to do next/found my self in some trouble:
full tilt poker $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
Hero (BB): $2.00
UTG: $3.10
MP: $1.95
CO: $2.92
BTN: $1.72
SB: $1.53
CO posts a big blind ($0.02)
Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero is BB with Q
UTG calls $0.02, 1 fold, CO checks, 1 fold, SB raises to $0.10, Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, SB calls $0.20
Flop: ($0.65) 7
SB checks, Hero checks
Turn: ($0.65) T
SB bets $0.34, Hero folds
Not really sure what to do here...Set of 10's? guessing fold is standard
Full Tilt Poker $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
SB: $1.81
BB: $2.01
UTG: $4.50
MP: $2.88
Hero (CO): $2.81
BTN: $2.10
Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is CO with A
UTG calls $0.02, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.08, 3 folds, UTG calls $0.06
Flop: ($0.19) Q
UTG checks, Hero checks
Turn: ($0.19) A
UTG checks, Hero checks
River: ($0.19) J
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.15, UTG raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $2.73 all in, UTG calls $2.33
Final Pot: $5.65
UTG shows 4
Hero shows A
UTG wins $5.28
(Rake: $0.37)
I'm guessing I should have bet the A and then the J? He was never going to fold the set, so I would of just value towned my self?
Full Tilt Poker $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
BTN: $4.51
SB: $2.39
BB: $2.72
Hero (UTG): $2.00
CO: $2.07
Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG with K
Hero raises to $0.06, CO raises to $0.46, 3 folds, Hero raises to $2 all in, CO calls $1.54
Flop: ($4.03) 7
Turn: ($4.03) 2
River: ($4.03) 8
Standard to get it in here? He had QQ if anyone wants to know.
Full Tilt Poker $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
SB: $2.81
BB: $3.76
UTG: $2.00
CO: $2.26
Hero (BTN): $2.10
Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BTN with K
UTG raises to $0.07, CO calls $0.07, Hero raises to $0.28, 3 folds, CO calls $0.21
Flop: ($0.66) 5
CO checks, Hero requests TIME, Hero bets $0.50, CO raises to $1.98 all in, Hero requests TIME, Hero folds
Not really sure on this. Only thing I could think was they flopped a flush? Villian was 10/6 over 31 hands. Trips are out of his range?
Full Tilt Poker $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
UTG: $2.90
CO: $3.76
BTN: $2.00
SB: $2.28
Hero (BB): $2.00
Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with Q
UTG calls $0.02, 2 folds, SB calls $0.01, Hero raises to $0.10, UTG calls $0.08, 1 fold
Flop: ($0.22) 2
Hero bets $0.18, UTG folds
Value bet too large here? or is this not even a value betting spot?
And just to top of the post heres my overall winnings...What I really love about it is that the last 1k hands where I have been really trying to think about these things has seen a rapid decline LOL clearly I'm doing it all wrong. Last 1k hands I've only been 2 tabling 6 max where as from hands 4k-15ish I was 4-6 tabling, just playing hands rather than players/position.
Any input appreciated
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slycbnew
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
And now the hands I wasn't to sure what to do next/found my self in some trouble:
Full Tilt Poker $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
Hero (BB): $2.00
UTG: $3.10
MP: $1.95
CO: $2.92
BTN: $1.72
SB: $1.53
CO posts a big blind ($0.02)
Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero is BB with QA
UTG calls $0.02, 1 fold, CO checks, 1 fold, SB raises to $0.10, Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, SB calls $0.20
Flop: ($0.65) 736(2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks
Turn: ($0.65) T(2 players)
SB bets $0.34, Hero folds
Not really sure what to do here...Set of 10's? guessing fold is standard
Nah, his turn range is identical to his pf range - i.e., he's going to bet because you didn't. That flop is extremely unlikely to have hit him - auto cbet flop, if he calls evaluate turn and any reads you have on him.
Full Tilt Poker $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
SB: $1.81
BB: $2.01
UTG: $4.50
MP: $2.88
Hero (CO): $2.81
BTN: $2.10
Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is CO with AJ
UTG calls $0.02, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.08, 3 folds, UTG calls $0.06
Flop: ($0.19) Q47(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks
Turn: ($0.19) A(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks
River: ($0.19) J(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.15, UTG raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $2.73 all in, UTG calls $2.33
Final Pot: $5.65
UTG shows 44(three of a kind, Fours)
Hero shows AJ(two pair, Aces and Jacks)
UTG wins $5.28
(Rake: $0.37)
I'm guessing I should have bet the A and then the J? He was never going to fold the set, so I would of just value towned my self?
Why check the flop behind? This is a pretty nice flop to cbet.
Once we get to the river this is a cooler, but if we cbet the flop, depending on how Villain plays the turn, we may be able to get away from it. A typical line for Villain will be c/c flop, c/r turn - our kicker isn't good enough to think our top pair is always good.
Full Tilt Poker $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
BTN: $4.51
SB: $2.39
BB: $2.72
Hero (UTG): $2.00
CO: $2.07
Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG with KA
Hero raises to $0.06, CO raises to $0.46, 3 folds, Hero raises to $2 all in, CO calls $1.54
Flop: ($4.03) 773
Turn: ($4.03) 2
River: ($4.03) 8
Standard to get it in here? He had QQ if anyone wants to know.
Standard, cooler.
Full Tilt Poker $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
SB: $2.81
BB: $3.76
UTG: $2.00
CO: $2.26
Hero (BTN): $2.10
Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BTN with KA
UTG raises to $0.07, CO calls $0.07, Hero raises to $0.28, 3 folds, CO calls $0.21
Flop: ($0.66) 53A(2 players)
CO checks, Hero requests TIME, Hero bets $0.50, CO raises to $1.98 all in, Hero requests TIME, Hero folds
Not really sure on this. Only thing I could think was they flopped a flush? Villian was 10/6 over 31 hands. Trips are out of his range?
He's a nit, definitely fold, you're chopping w another AK hand (assuming he doesn't have the As or the Ks, in which case we're behind) and behind everything else.
Full Tilt Poker $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
UTG: $2.90
CO: $3.76
BTN: $2.00
SB: $2.28
Hero (BB): $2.00
Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with QQ
UTG calls $0.02, 2 folds, SB calls $0.01, Hero raises to $0.10, UTG calls $0.08, 1 fold
Flop: ($0.22) 28J(2 players)
Hero bets $0.18, UTG folds
Value bet too large here? or is this not even a value betting spot?
We want to balance our cbets - if the only time we bet the flop is for value, we're 1. passing up on cbet "steals" and 2. extremely easy to read.
The bet isn't too large - but make sure that your cbets w air and your cbets w strong hands aren't wildly dissimilar in size. I usually go one bb up or down from around 2/3 pot.
What's your flop cbet % and your turn cbet %? Also, filter for 3bet pots - what's your flop cbet% in 3bet pots?
No Brainer
Losing keeps me sane
Silver Level
Im not exactly the most experienced person to be giving advice plus I havent tried 6 max yet but Ill give it a crack. Ill post in Bold.
Full Tilt Poker $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
Hero (BB): $2.00
UTG: $3.10
MP: $1.95
CO: $2.92
BTN: $1.72
SB: $1.53
CO posts a big blind ($0.02)
Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero is BB with QA
UTG calls $0.02, 1 fold, CO checks, 1 fold, SB raises to $0.10, Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, SB calls $0.20
Flop: ($0.65) 736(2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks
Turn: ($0.65) T(2 players)
SB bets $0.34, Hero folds
Not really sure what to do here...Set of 10's? guessing fold is standard
I would be c-betting this flop every time. You have shown strength preflop and you want him to think you have an overpair here. As for his hand, I would basically put him on any two cards here, trying to steal your big blind.
Full Tilt Poker $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
SB: $1.81
BB: $2.01
UTG: $4.50
MP: $2.88
Hero (CO): $2.81
BTN: $2.10
Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is CO with AJ
UTG calls $0.02, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.08, 3 folds, UTG calls $0.06
Flop: ($0.19) Q47(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks
Turn: ($0.19) A(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks
River: ($0.19) J(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.15, UTG raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $2.73 all in, UTG calls $2.33
Final Pot: $5.65
UTG shows 44(three of a kind, Fours)
Hero shows AJ(two pair, Aces and Jacks)
UTG wins $5.28
(Rake: $0.37)
I'm guessing I should have bet the A and then the J? He was never going to fold the set, so I would of just value towned my self?
Again, put in a c-bet on the flop, even though you have nothing. If he comes over the top of your c-bet you have an easy fold. On the river you need to be watching the board as there are big straight and flush possibilities. I think once he 3-bet you on the river that is showing you that he must have caught a decent part of the board and I would probably just call it rather than shoving over the top.
Full Tilt Poker $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
BTN: $4.51
SB: $2.39
BB: $2.72
Hero (UTG): $2.00
CO: $2.07
Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG with KA
Hero raises to $0.06, CO raises to $0.46, 3 folds, Hero raises to $2 all in, CO calls $1.54
Flop: ($4.03) 773
Turn: ($4.03) 2
River: ($4.03) 8
Standard to get it in here? He had QQ if anyone wants to know.
Standard at this level, he had position on you aswell which makes a shove a better option. Did you have any stats on this guy? I would definately be checking them out before shoving...
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SB: $2.81
BB: $3.76
UTG: $2.00
CO: $2.26
Hero (BTN): $2.10
Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BTN with KA
UTG raises to $0.07, CO calls $0.07, Hero raises to $0.28, 3 folds, CO calls $0.21
Flop: ($0.66) 53A(2 players)
CO checks, Hero requests TIME, Hero bets $0.50, CO raises to $1.98 all in, Hero requests TIME, Hero folds
Not really sure on this. Only thing I could think was they flopped a flush? Villian was 10/6 over 31 hands. Trips are out of his range?
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UTG: $2.90
CO: $3.76
BTN: $2.00
SB: $2.28
Hero (BB): $2.00
Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with QQ
UTG calls $0.02, 2 folds, SB calls $0.01, Hero raises to $0.10, UTG calls $0.08, 1 fold
Flop: ($0.22) 28J(2 players)
Hero bets $0.18, UTG folds
Value bet too large here? or is this not even a value betting spot?
I think your bet size is ok, you dont really want to price people into chasing their flush (although at these levels some people will anyway). This could be a nice board to have queens on, just have to hope that someone has hit the Jack.
And just to top of the post heres my overall winnings...What I really love about it is that the last 1k hands where I have been really trying to think about these things has seen a rapid decline LOL clearly I'm doing it all wrong. Last 1k hands I've only been 2 tabling 6 max where as from hands 4k-15ish I was 4-6 tabling, just playing hands rather than players/position.
Any input appreciated
Jurn8
Legend
Silver Level
CBet!!!
It's just so profitable at the super micros' I used to cbet like 90%ish when I played them people just look to see flops and fold if they miss!
Also what do you mo fo's think about opening raise sizes at the micro's?
I personally feel 4x is the optimal open and then +1 for a limper.
It's just so profitable at the super micros' I used to cbet like 90%ish when I played them people just look to see flops and fold if they miss!
Also what do you mo fo's think about opening raise sizes at the micro's?
I personally feel 4x is the optimal open and then +1 for a limper.
No Brainer
Losing keeps me sane
Silver Level
Just checked my c-bet% and im at 89.1% so I definately think it is profitable.
Im not sure about optimal but I generally just use the 3x +1 for limpers. Ive seen people raising 4x or more and I think it scares some people off as its 'not the norm and they must have a great hand'
I do sometimes make it 4x if im raising from early position which brings me to a question. What to do with marginal hands from early position? Im talking AQ, AJs, TT, JJ. I know if your nitty it could be an insta fold but I find myself limping in with them more often than not and im sure this is not really an optimal way to go about it...
Im not sure about optimal but I generally just use the 3x +1 for limpers. Ive seen people raising 4x or more and I think it scares some people off as its 'not the norm and they must have a great hand'
I do sometimes make it 4x if im raising from early position which brings me to a question. What to do with marginal hands from early position? Im talking AQ, AJs, TT, JJ. I know if your nitty it could be an insta fold but I find myself limping in with them more often than not and im sure this is not really an optimal way to go about it...
slycbnew
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
On www.stoxpoker.com , there's a very good free vid (sample clips) on cbetting - check it out (it's also referenced in c9's https://www.cardschat.com/forum/cash-games-11/ring-game-hand-analysis-required-reading-144488/ thread, strongly suggest anyone who hasn't reviewed it skim through it and re-visit it often).
I agree w Jurn, 4x +1 is the way to go at micro.
How about 3bet sizing? I use 3x open raise size in position - c9 recommended to me 4x oop, which I think is the nuts, I wasn't increasing my oop 3bets enough...
I agree w Jurn, 4x +1 is the way to go at micro.
How about 3bet sizing? I use 3x open raise size in position - c9 recommended to me 4x oop, which I think is the nuts, I wasn't increasing my oop 3bets enough...
Jurn8
Legend
Silver Level
well if we look at the micro players weaknesses they generally CALL too much and play too many hands so if we make it bigger with our tighter range then we extract more money (value) out of them when our cbets take it down or we have a hand we are willing to get in it makes it easier to get it in.
3bet sizing I 3x IP and 3.5x or pot OOP but will adjust according to villian if they call them too much like 4/4.5x is cool IMO.
3bet sizing I 3x IP and 3.5x or pot OOP but will adjust according to villian if they call them too much like 4/4.5x is cool IMO.
slycbnew
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
Most of the experienced guys here never open limp - if you don't feel comfortable opening the hand, you should fold it, esp as you start moving up - play is so bad at 10nl and less that you can get away w this profitably, but once you hit say 25nl or 50nl you'll start running into better players who will exploit open limpers.
fwiw, I don't consider TT and JJ marginal utg in FR - I generally use AK, AQs, 88+ as my range in FR utg (and I'm a nit, esp in FR).