Duggs tries cash

[ScottishMatt]

Well it's a totally different dynamic to what I play so maybe that's why I see it differently. You're better than me anyway so I guess it can't be that bad. If I was in villains shoes, even after long consideration I could only give you one value combo here and that would be ATd. You obviously have a decent amount of history with him so know his play better than us that are commenting on it. Just based on the HH itself + stats provided though I don't see it being profitable.

Then again I thought the last one wasn't good either, look how wrong I turned out to be

 

[duggs]

yea well the guy tank called with KK,
i can definitely have flushes given its 3way on flop.

 

[ScottishMatt]

I suppose it's different because you are deep but I would be putting you on diamond flushes after the flop check.

Keep them coming Duggs. I find it enjoyable trying to work out how to play this deep without actually sitting in a game and getting crushed.

 

[duggs]

here is one i butchered marked as a bad reg.


PokerStars - $0.25 Ante $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 451.44 BB (VPIP: 56.41, PFR: 23.08, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 78)
BTN: 557.12 BB (VPIP: 31.43, PFR: 21.90, 3Bet Preflop: 10.14, Hands: 4,662)
SB: 252.32 BB (VPIP: 26.16, PFR: 16.14, 3Bet Preflop: 3.83, Hands: 421)
BB: 138.56 BB (VPIP: 20.58, PFR: 17.67, 3Bet Preflop: 8.06, Hands: 455)
Hero (UTG): 238.32 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, 5 players post ante of 0.2 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.4 BB) Hero has 3:club: 3:heart:

Hero raises to 3 BB, CO raises to 5 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (12.4 BB, 2 players) 3:spade: 8:diamond: A:heart:
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: (12.4 BB, 2 players) T:spade:
Hero bets 8.04 BB, CO raises to 16.08 BB, Hero raises to 46 BB, CO raises to 75.92 BB, Hero calls 29.92 BB

 

[duggs]

i feel like on the turn is should either be flatting his raise or 3b/folding.

his check back range is KK-99 (KK/99 somewhat discounted) and maybe some weird slowplays of AA, but most likely all of his Ax hands cbet.

on the turn the minraise is weighted towards 1010/KK doing something weird, with maybe 1 or 2 combos of KQss/QJss. so 3betting doesnt achieve a hell of alot. once he 4bets he has exactly 1010 and i should fold.


River: (164.24 BB, 2 players) 6:diamond:
Hero checks, CO bets 62 BB, Hero calls 62 BB

river is even worse, although i get set a sick price, was planning on folding to a shove, but i think there are a few more spazzy draws at this sizing + i dont need to win often.

 

[ScottishMatt]

AA/TT I would say. Stats indicate a far too passive approach to the game. Flop check behind is typical fishy/bad play with the nuts. I'd put him on aces more often than tens here due to the lack of 3Bet stat + the fact that it was a min-3Bet. AsKs could also be in there I suppose but bad players are more likely to slowplay the flop and then go crazy OTT with the nuts rather than TPTK IMO.

Quick question Duggs. How many tables do you play - and do you find you need to play less tables when on the deepstacked ones?

 

[duggs]

sizing is unlikely to be AA pre,

um i start tables but it depends how many are going, usually around 8-9

 

[duggs]

i usually have at least 1 or 2 HU or 3 handed tho since i sit every table

 

[duggs]

not really tbh, i mean im used to having antes in play and its not like i auto pilot at 100bb either

 

[duggs]

PokerStars - $0.25 Ante $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 245.2 BB (VPIP: 26.42, PFR: 17.38, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 584)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 20.59, PFR: 15.92, 3Bet Preflop: 4.48, Hands: 477)
BTN: 180.4 BB (VPIP: 35.59, PFR: 18.64, 3Bet Preflop: 11.90, Hands: 181)
SB: 312.16 BB (VPIP: 29.39, PFR: 21.57, 3Bet Preflop: 8.43, Hands: 1,378)
BB: 162 BB (VPIP: 25.55, PFR: 20.50, 3Bet Preflop: 6.40, Hands: 1,217)
Hero (UTG): 319.56 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, 6 players post ante of 0.2 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.6 BB) Hero has 5:diamond: 7:diamond:

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, SB raises to 14 BB, fold, Hero calls 11 BB, fold

Flop: (33.2 BB, 2 players) A:heart: 5:heart: 7:heart:
SB checks, Hero bets 18 BB, SB calls 18 BB

Turn: (69.2 BB, 2 players) 7:club:
SB checks, Hero bets 44 BB, SB calls 44 BB

River: (157.2 BB, 2 players) Q:heart:
SB bets 77 BB, Hero raises to 243.36 BB and is all-in,

Is the river too thin, thoughts on ranges and sizing?

 

[Matt Vaughan]

I don't see how river can be too thin, since I doubt he x/c a set of aces or A7 on the flop, and I doubt he check calls 2 streets with queens? I could see him playing AxKh exactly like this and I'm having trouble putting him on much else tbh, so I like the jam. Let's him make a big mistake.

 

[duggs]

KKh is his most likely imo, I think he has QQh/KKh/AKh/ when we get to the river, but its really hard for him to have QQ without a heart. I do think AA does check the flop sometimes but this seems like a pretty unlikely runout for that to happen. if he c/r flop or turn what do you do?

 

[Matt Vaughan]

No idea on the flop because I never play with SPR's this big, but if he did it on the turn after the given flop action then I probably just flat?

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

but its really hard for him to have QQ without a heart.

well yeah when the Qh is the river

seems fine though, do we have an image?