Duggs Deepstack thread

[Matt Vaughan]

AA, can we not 5bet? BB is shaping up to be nitty, and has just cold 4bet, so seems a spot we're not going to be getting a ton of folds. I realize you might want to keep BTN in by flatting though I really have no clue how likely that is.

JT, me likey the line. His range is primarily straights, worse full houses, and missed draws, right? So assuming he won't spaz check-jam with missed draws if we size to induce, I like betting pretty big. Prob in agreement with baud, though in-game I prob chicken out and go a bit smaller cause I don't want him to fold. But off-table, I don't think he folds many bluff-catchers here to big sizing.

 

[duggs]

J10 thoughts on jamming river? i was tossing up between that and like 95bb

AA i basically want to get Button in, I'm fairly sure I'm stacking BB but am getting greedy i guess.

 

[duggs]

PokerStars - $0.25 Ante $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 79.8 BB (VPIP: 30.86, PFR: 15.70, 3Bet Preflop: 7.92, hands: 1,161)
BTN: 250 BB (VPIP: 20.75, PFR: 16.92, 3Bet Preflop: 6.41, Hands: 1,627)
SB: 289.52 BB (VPIP: 34.52, PFR: 17.86, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 85)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 13.11, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 63)
Hero (UTG): 531.44 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, 5 players post ante of 0.2 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.4 BB) Hero has K:spade: T:club:

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, BTN raises to 10 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 25 BB, BTN calls 15 BB

Flop: (52.4 BB, 2 players) 2:diamond: 8:spade: Q:heart:
Hero bets 27 BB, BTN calls 27 BB

Turn: (106.4 BB, 2 players) 7:diamond:
Hero bets 60 BB, BTN calls 60 BB

River: (226.4 BB, 2 players) A:club:
Hero bets 148.48 BB,

How terrible is this?

 

[ScottishMatt]

I don't think the A is much of a scare card here?

I've not much of an idea though, how often is he going to SD?

TBH I would have given up after the first barrel. He is pretty tight and I think he is going to have a strong range here.

 

[hackmeplz]

oh shit I didn't realize the stack sizes were in bbs thought they were dollars and was like holy shit that's like 1200bb's deep.

 

[Matt Vaughan]

500bb = stando.
1200bb = nope.

And I'm kind of with ScottishMatt here. Though tbf I'm pretty lost in 4bet pots where we're NOT super deep, let alone 250bb deep.

 

[duggs]

it seems bad, villain had 3bet me a lot compared to everyone else, especially in last few orbits, K10 has ok blocker value, don't think he is good enough to ever flat AA so its basically QQ/KK when we reach river, KK we can make fold but we also block it ugh

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

showing my lack of ability here, does he not 3bet/flat JJ/TT here? assuming history I figured he thinks you'll flat wider and 4bet wider because of his wide 3bets so his range getting to the river should be wider as well?

but there's probably some strategy that I dont know about indicating why he never has them here so..

waiting for that.

 

[duggs]

he can, i just expect them to pussy out on turn

 

[duggs]

fwiw its worth i think that hands super spewy

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

I figured he calls turn folds river more often given dynamic, which makes the river bet mandatory imo.

I dont think we can continue turn and not bet river and he needs a super strong range to call river, like AQ/QQ/AK?/AA and you said he doesn't flat AA here AK doesn't get to rivers but you fold out like KK/JJ/TT and some other stuff.

even AQ has a hard time calling off this deep.

anyone else got an opinion?

 

[duggs]

I think AQ/QQ both snap cause of blockers.

 

[duggs]

PokerStars - $0.25 Ante $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (UTG): 339.84 BB
MP: 34.68 BB (VPIP: 57.69, PFR: 19.23, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 26)
CO: 43.36 BB (VPIP: 38.10, PFR: 26.19, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 42)
BTN: 306.8 BB (VPIP: 28.72, PFR: 16.03, 3Bet Preflop: 2.70, Hands: 1,592)
SB: 301.56 BB (VPIP: 28.76, PFR: 14.16, 3Bet Preflop: 3.26, Hands: 233)
BB: 421.08 BB (VPIP: 24.50, PFR: 19.14, 3Bet Preflop: 8.94, Hands: 722)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, 6 players post ante of 0.2 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.6 BB) Hero has J:heart: 7:heart:

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB raises to 10.6 BB, Hero calls 7.6 BB

Flop: (22.8 BB, 2 players) 2:spade: 5:club: 6:heart:
BB bets 13.2 BB, Hero calls 13.2 BB

Turn: (49.2 BB, 2 players) 4:heart:
BB bets 28.8 BB, Hero calls 28.8 BB

River: (106.8 BB, 2 players) J:diamond:
BB bets 50 BB, Hero raises to 152 BB,

I do shit like this all the time, Obv flatting pre isn't amazing but at least I'm IP and deep.

 

[Matt Vaughan]

Lol bluffing a rivered top pair is the nuts.

 

[duggs]

PokerStars - $0.25 Ante $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 98 BB (VPIP: 20.47, PFR: 15.56, 3Bet Preflop: 10.78, Hands: 6,421)
BTN: 112.52 BB (VPIP: 24.31, PFR: 18.58, 3Bet Preflop: 8.27, Hands: 584)
Hero (SB): 391.28 BB
BB: 164.28 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
UTG: 107.76 BB (VPIP: 17.39, PFR: 12.17, 3Bet Preflop: 8.00, Hands: 119)
MP: 495.32 BB (VPIP: 31.67, PFR: 14.82, 3Bet Preflop: 6.16, Hands: 2,224)

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, 6 players post ante of 0.2 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.6 BB) Hero has 7:heart: 7:diamond:

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 11 BB, fold, MP raises to 29 BB, Hero calls 18 BB

Flop: (60.2 BB, 2 players) Q:club: 9:club: 7:club:
Hero checks, MP bets 38 BB, Hero raises to 85 BB, MP raises to 184 BB, Hero raises to 362.08 BB and is all-in, MP calls 178.08 BB

Turn: (784.36 BB, 2 players) 9:spade:

River: (784.36 BB, 2 players) 5:heart:


If he gets in AAc and KKc this is fine right?

 

[duggs]

PokerStars - $0.25 Ante $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 202.8 BB (VPIP: 30.92, PFR: 21.38, 3Bet Preflop: 2.98, Hands: 592)
SB: 409.48 BB (VPIP: 16.61, PFR: 13.28, 3Bet Preflop: 3.28, Hands: 280)
BB: 111.64 BB (VPIP: 27.81, PFR: 22.08, 3Bet Preflop: 12.04, Hands: 462)
UTG: 192.92 BB (VPIP: 15.38, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 41)
Hero (CO): 722.12 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, 5 players post ante of 0.2 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.4 BB) Hero has 9:diamond: 8:diamond:

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, SB raises to 10 BB, fold, Hero calls 7 BB

Flop: (22 BB, 2 players) 8:club: T:club: 9:spade:
SB bets 13 BB, Hero calls 13 BB

Turn: (48 BB, 2 players) 4:spade:
SB bets 27 BB, Hero calls 27 BB

River: (102 BB, 2 players) 4:club:
SB bets 49 BB, Hero raises to 158 BB,

seems like a good spot to turn it into a bluff, not sure i get to river with a better candidate?

 

[Blobweird123]

K I tell Duggs I'm not qualified to give HA on these with not being familiar with deep play all that much + overbet bluffs lol. Duggs won't take no for an answer though ofc.

So J7s I fold pre, and to start, I don't open this wide UTG. With that said, he has some reggy stats and I don't see him 3bet/tripling with worse here, so not a big fan. But maybe we get overpairs to fold enough for it to be ok, really don't know.

77 hand: I fold pre to his rather big 4bet. But as played I think its fine to GII here. AAcx/KKcx and even AA/KK no clubs might get it in here tbh. So yeah i'm never folding to his 3bet. He has QQ, sigh wp.

89s: Seems to be a nitty reg so I think he folds a ton here. Not positive how much we rep boats here since I think you're raising sets on this flop, but we still have it sometimes + we rep flushes hard here. So seems fine

There now leave me alone! haha jk

 

[ScottishMatt]

KT - I agree with 9K. If we are betting the turn I feel we need to continue given that this the river is the best we could have hoped for. That is why I don't like the turn.

J7 - I'm rarely double floating (I don't play deep though), but I like the raise especially given his sizing.

77 - Looks fine.

89 - Looks good man. We definitely have fold equity and can bluff out a lot of hands that counterfeited us. Again I like it especially due to his sizing.

 

[duggs]

results;

J7hh i got tank called by QQ, i think that's ok tho since iv been doing this a lot and it just means i can do it for thinner value when his range is capped.

KT he snap folded, assume he had KK

77 he has QQ obv

89 he tank folded.

 

[duggs]

been getting smashed a bit lately, a fair bit of it is me just not folding v fish enough, a lot is barreling and running into the top of whales ranges. and a lot is definitely a bit spewy.

 

[Cafeman]

been getting smashed a bit lately, a fair bit of it is me just not folding v fish enough, a lot is barreling and running into the top of whales ranges. and a lot is definitely a bit spewy.

I could have written that about me lately too, especially the bit about fish not folding to me, nor me folding to them... hmmm!!! Even the regs keep showing up with the goods more frequently than possible! haha

Oh well, this is why we need to be rolled right.

 

[duggs]

yup, thankfully i was pretty nitty about moving up, but I'm on the cusp of having to move back down. but thats ok, i could post a bunch of hands i got 300bb in really good and didn't hold. or running into AA v 100bb stacks with AK a few times or any of that stuff but its not really constructive.

 

[duggs]

having said that if anyone is bored enough to go through pt4 with me and look at what I'm doing I'm all ears

 

[duggs]

i see you people lurking get posting

honey
scourgge

 

[honeycrush]

i see you people lurking get posting

honey
scourgge

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