Cash Game Strategy Discussion.

[Munchrs]

Back to the NSD stuff...

Bw07507 and I, both have "unusual" NSD stats and I just realized that we are both primarily 6-max players. So could it be a 6-max thing?

it may be 6max because of the fact that you need to be more aggro in 6max but your also playing more hands so I dont know if it is really effected that much, but then again everyone says 6max requires more skill to beat because you have to play better post flop so you would assume that your NSD would be higher than FR where your looking to just value town your good hands alot more.

 

[bw07507]

Back to the NSD stuff...

Bw07507 and I, both have "unusual" NSD stats and I just realized that we are both primarily 6-max players. So could it be a 6-max thing?

I think it might be b/c we are playing 25NL and most people here are playing 50NL and above. From my experience, 25NL is so much easier to beat than 50NL. It is so easy to spot a bad player bluffing at 25NL, almost every person that is bluffing at 25NL bets less than they would with a good hand. All you have to do is spot what they usually bet, if its less, raise it. I cant tell u how often I take pots raising small bets.

 

[scragbag]

I just got PT3 an was lookin at my NSD, i went through a stint of not playin poker but now ive come back, an its going awesome, but my NSD is showing a negative over 297 hands, (in about 4-5 hours) Does this mean im seeing too many flops?

 

[WVHillbilly]

You'll need to play a lot more hands to figure that out. I've got 20,000 hands at NL25 and I can't be confident that my stats are true.

 

[Munchrs]

what type of agression factors are the FRers running at? im at 2.2 TAF and street by street im at 1.88/3.69/2.32/2.60 (pf/f/t/r). What can you deduct about my play from theses stats?

 

[Jagsti]

Munch - over 100k hands I have these figures Total AF= 2.26, F/AF= 2.7 T/AF = 2 R/AF = 1.6

I actually like your F/AF more than mine. You also seem to value bet the river more than I do. If I were to criticise both our stats it may be that our Total AF is a liitle low, maybe 3 should be a target. So I suppose that may be hyper critical, b/c we call a bit more, but it is full ring after all.

 

[Munchrs]

Munch - over 100k hands I have these figures Total AF= 2.26, F/AF= 2.7 T/AF = 2 R/AF = 1.6

I actually like your F/AF more than mine. You also seem to value bet the river more than I do. If I were to criticise both our stats it may be that our Total AF is a liitle low, maybe 3 should be a target. So I suppose that may be hyper critical, b/c we call a bit more, but it is full ring after all.

i think that may be why im dont have good results higher up, i dont apply the gap concept enough, in other words my calling a raise range is to big compared to my raise range.

Jag would you say that i c-bet alot but slow down on the turn if i dont have it to much or is slowing dow on the turn allright at 25nl?

 

[Jagsti]

It's difficult for me to comment on the flop AF, b/c originally I was a 6max player. Usually for a 6max player their cb% or flop AF if you like is usually quite high. I would expect a 6max player to have at least 3-5 flop AF. I wouldn't say your CB'ing too much with a flop AF of 3.6, but you need to obv pick the right opponents to do it. Naturally the turn AF is lower than the flop AF so I don't think it a huge leak if at all TBH. FR is a totally different beast altogether than 6 max, so unless one of the 'true' FR regs can contibute on your stats, they seem fine to me.

 

[WVHillbilly]

what type of agression factors are the FRers running at? im at 2.2 TAF and street by street im at 1.88/3.69/2.32/2.60 (pf/f/t/r). What can you deduct about my play from theses stats?

AF=2.96 1.71/3.5/2.7/1.93 - Odd that your street by street is higher on 3 of 4 streets but your overall is much lower. I guess this means that I fold more than you postflop??? What is your flop cbet percentage? Turn cbet?

 

[Jagsti]

Isn't his total AF of 2.96, the av of flop/turn/river AF's?

 

[Jagsti]

Just ignore me I'm talking s%&te!!! + I need to go to bed = tilt IMO!

 

[Munchrs]

where do you find your Cbet stats in PT2?

 

[WVHillbilly]

I'll have to look tonight.

 

[ChuckTs]

I think it's under 'more details' in the general tab.

edit:
yeah, general tab>more details (at right)>'first action after pf raise'>bet.

 

[Munchrs]

billy, flop cbet is 61%. i only fold 7.8% of the flops i see when i p/f agressor.