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You could open your range little more, 18/12 looks really tight for 6max, i´m 20/16 and i´m a nit.

Your fold to 3b looks really low (35), you are calling to 3b´s 65 of the time which i think is way too much, try to fold more.

Steal is low on 22, try to steal a ton more on Co/BTN aim to >30

Flop cb is high on 82, i think range is 60-70
 
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and a couple of hands i wasnt sure of

hand 1

Poker Stars $2.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2470364
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CO: $2.09 - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: NaN, Hands: 6
BTN: $4.01 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 17, 3B: 0, AF: 0.5, Hands: 12
SB: $3.40 - VPIP: 60, PFR: 10, 3B: 20, AF: 12.0, Hands: 20
Hero (BB): $2.00
UTG: $5.16 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 16, 3B: 5, AF: 2.2, Hands: 70
MP: $4.22 - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: NaN, AF: NaN, Hands: 1

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with 7
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9
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3 folds, BTN calls $0.02, SB calls $0.01, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.06) 4
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T
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8
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SB checks, Hero bets $0.02, BTN calls $0.02, SB folds

Turn: ($0.10) 2
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Hero bets $0.06, BTN calls $0.06

River: ($0.22) Q
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Hero bets $0.14, BTN raises to $2, Hero folds

hand 2

Poker Stars $2.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2470366
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MP: $3.99 - VPIP: 11, PFR: 11, 3B: 0, AF: NaN, Hands: 9
CO: $1.68 - VPIP: 67, PFR: 0, 3B: NaN, AF: Infinity, Hands: 3
BTN: $4.92 - VPIP: 12, PFR: 12, 3B: 0, AF: NaN, Hands: 26
SB: $1.49 - VPIP: 100, PFR: 0, 3B: NaN, AF: Infinity, Hands: 2
Hero (BB): $2.51 -
UTG: $5.00 - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: NaN, Hands: 9

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with 8
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K
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2 folds, CO calls $0.02, 1 fold, SB calls $0.01, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.06) T
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5
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2
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SB bets $1.47, Hero folds, CO folds


Are you seriously scared or something???...

Hand 1. I often get it all in c'mon u got open/flush draw you can justify getting it in everytime. And you folded the flush cmon... He's obv bluffing you... Your really respecting a 2nl overbet? perhaps if he's a reg you could but I can't fold to overbets especially when you have a strong hand.

Hand 2. Shove on flop. These guys bet big with top pair even... Flush draw with an overcard is pretty reasonable... Your very passive. Though I guess if he does have a set your a 3 to 1 underdog so if he does have a set good fold. but unlikely.
 
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show me a range for the hand 2 shove we are ahead of people, not even close imo
 
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any comments on the stats so far, maybe higher 3bet%?

get vpip and pfr abit closer together?

You could open your range little more, 18/12 looks really tight for 6max, i´m 20/16 and i´m a nit.

Your fold to 3b looks really low (35), you are calling to 3b´s 65 of the time which i think is way too much, try to fold more.

Steal is low on 22, try to steal a ton more on Co/BTN aim to >30

Flop cb is high on 82, i think range is 60-70

Pretty much agree with Logan on all points, except 20/16 is not a nit imo, I would label you as a TAG :)

You can open up your range from the CO and BTN quite a bit I would imagine, which will bring the steal stat up. Might be more useful if you can post stats by position.
 
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Are you seriously scared or something???...

Hand 1. I often get it all in c'mon u got open/flush draw you can justify getting it in everytime. And you folded the flush cmon... He's obv bluffing you... Your really respecting a 2nl overbet? perhaps if he's a reg you could but I can't fold to overbets especially when you have a strong hand.

Hand 2. Shove on flop. These guys bet big with top pair even... Flush draw with an overcard is pretty reasonable... Your very passive. Though I guess if he does have a set your a 3 to 1 underdog so if he does have a set good fold. but unlikely.

Hand 1 ...lol look at villians AF stats 0.5..doesn't seem like a player who would spew when he didn't have it..any Jcxc kcxc Acxc and I'm smoked...don't think he was too impressed by the size of the pot on the river so when he caught he thought, **** it, all in.......I'm not that passive man, 3.5 or something.
 
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You could open your range little more, 18/12 looks really tight for 6max, i´m 20/16 and i´m a nit.

Your fold to 3b looks really low (35), you are calling to 3b´s 65 of the time which i think is way too much, try to fold more.

Steal is low on 22, try to steal a ton more on Co/BTN aim to >30

Flop cb is high on 82, i think range is 60-70

Thanks logan, yeah its abit low, but I'm sitting at tables with quite a few loose passive/aggresive's so picking spots seems to yield decent results..I've not been stealing too much coz all the loose/p are on my left lol, hardly any on my right yesterday no matter how many tables I changed...I'll get the cbet down though and look at the f23b....was playing 250bb on the 4 tables yesterday coz I had a bad run for the first 3/400 hands and topped it up to get my money back...and they were 3betting a lot, and I was quite happy to cal, 4bet being deeper stacked....


Pretty much agree with Logan on all points, except 20/16 is not a nit imo, I would label you as a TAG :)

You can open up your range from the CO and BTN quite a bit I would imagine, which will bring the steal stat up. Might be more useful if you can post stats by position.

Thanks mm, never done much steals yesterday coz of the table dynamics but it could be totally different next session, just depends who's on my left.......or maybe its an opportunity to hit a flop against a passive and get value there....what type of hands would you open up against a loose player in the blinds? Axs/kxs-67s+89o+79s-TQs,A2o+..7Js-9ks??
 
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Can honestly say iv never ever looked at AF or AFq before ever
 
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His AF is totally irrelevant in hand 1 anyway as you only have 12 hands on him.
 
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got another couple of sessions in and kept them in the green...pretty card-dead in the games compared to usual so just contained the action and waited for decent spots...one hand in particular bothered me but i can remember what it was, will check hem...should have noted it down duh...

also not too sure about widening my ranges, seem to be doing fine in the 17-18vp bracket, although i dont play to a number, it is what it is depending on the table and who's sitting where and what they're doing etc etc...

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Green is my favorite color when it comes to poker :D

Nice sessions Alf!!!!
 
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far from green atm, the image below as an example of how fcked another night is going.... all in on the flop from villian shove

**yeah been going horrible last couple nights so switched to ring only just latest session this evening, figured id like to get myself back in the green and nit up for a bit and this shit happens FML
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far from green atm, the image below as an example of how fcked another night is going.... all in on the flop from villian shove

**yeah been going horrible last couple nights so switched to ring only just latest session this evening, figured id like to get myself back in the green and nit up for a bit and this shit happens FML
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nh man....dont worry about what happens 'after' well played....i know you care from a $ perspective but your roll can handle it...just keep playing and getting used to 2nl and it will come together...never give up.
 
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far from green atm, the image below as an example of how fcked another night is going.... all in on the flop from villian shove

**yeah been going horrible last couple nights so switched to ring only just latest session this evening, figured id like to get myself back in the green and nit up for a bit and this shit happens FML
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What's the problem with this? Were you actually pissed at this hand or something else beforehand? If this is a one off in a session of 1000 hands, you are the lucky one.

It's a game of decisions. Each and every hand is a decision. You get better at decision making. For every one of these you double up.

Have you not gone 1500 hands and hit very little, getting no action on what you do hit? All the while your red line plummets and you end up... well, frustrated to put it mildly? Those are the worst times and if hands like above bother you, prepare yourself.
 
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?? i know it happens, was pissed that it came runner runner obv.....no prob with my decision, just been having lots of these the last few nights so yeah it was frustrating that the fish and whales have been feeding on me with run outs like this.

The cash grind is rather new to me but i know to expect it at times but doesn't make it any less frustrating when it happens, and i just keep plugging away and grind my way through it........some issues to fix but working on those as well (although obv with my lack of posting hands the last few nights not working on it as much as I should).
 
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Yea, Dave, I get the frustration. I have a couple of reg-fish who will call any bet with any A. Like I will raise my KK from EP and they call from the SB with A6o. Flop anything, just no draws for them, and no A and no 6. It goes check/bet/call, turn a brick - check/bet-call, river an A they shove. I have to fold my KK-QQ-JJ w/e here. It frustrates the hell out of me, but I fold, even tho I have been sizing so I can get as much in by the river as I can, cause I know they will call-call-fold most times. When they shove an A they ALWAYS will have it. Now this is a couple of players. But on the other hand, they are so easy to get money from when they dont hit, and they never bluff shove so it is an easy fold. Of course if I have 2P or set, its value town. They will also always fast play their 2p and sets so I do love to have them around.
 
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Dave, that's the reason I hate $2 so much, always seem to get into battles with these.

I'm working hard to keep my BR above the bottom threshold I set for playing $5, there's so much less of that BS there. It's still there, but a lot less.
 
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poker stars $2.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2471867
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SB: $5.05 - VPIP: 100, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: NaN, Hands: 1
Hero (BB): $2.00
UTG: $1.66 - VPIP: 100, PFR: 100, 3B: NaN, AF: 0.0, Hands: 1
MP: $1.47 - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: NaN, Hands: 1
CO: $4.01 - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: NaN, Hands: 1
BTN: $2.50 - VPIP: 100, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 1.0, Hands: 1

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with 8
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UTG raises to $0.06, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.06, SB calls $0.05, Hero calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.24) 5
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SB checks, Hero bets $0.16, UTG calls $0.16, BTN raises to $0.52, SB folds, Hero raises to $1.94, UTG folds, BTN calls $1.42

Turn: ($4.28) T
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River: ($4.28) 2
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Looks fine OESFDs have enough equity to be getting it in on flops

cheers mm, figured i would be pot committed anyway after the turn card if i went bet/call on the flop and check/call on the turn...
 
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