AA in cash games

[begley01]

Thanks for advice everyone
I have moved down to .10-.25 due to lack of bank roll and I have been playing better on 6 tables instead of one or two. My winning consistency has increased so I guess that's a good thing. Still not getting much action with aces lately but winning the blinds beats losing a huge sum of money.

 

[silverslugger33]

AA - winning ratio abou 85 percent

That's too high. As has been stated above, against ATC, it's 81%.

 

[mickyb]

That's too high. As has been stated above, against ATC, it's 81%.

No, 85% is right. AA vs underpair is 81%ish

 

[TheUndertaker]

I fell your pain buddy this happens to me alot too my AA always get cracked you played them well but just was unlucky you had the best hand at the start but then again that's poker you win some and lose some.Many people say you would win with AA more than you would lose with them I don't believe that's true well for me.

 

[slycbnew]

Thanks for advice everyone
I have moved down to .10-.25 due to lack of bank roll

Glad you made this move - it's the single best piece of advice in this thread!

Glad also that you're winning at this level, hope you have continued success, look forward to seeing at the tables, and welcome to CC!

 

[ICU2QTPY]

I would say to play them hard, but you must always remember that AA is really only AA, sure it is the top hand to play, but...........

If you don't feel right about the hand. Don't play it. Fold out.
( It's really only AA, who's to say that your next hand isn't KK that has way better odds because it "tripped up" ).

Sooner to not win than to lose, beacuse that sux.

Play them hard, but don't play every AA that's in the barrell. Be careful, and be wise.

Good luck.

ICU is OUT.

 

[GDRileyx]

With 3 or 4 limpers you want a very substantial raise.. You dont want AA in a multiway pot beccause with 3 people in the pot AA drops to about 60%, at the same time pot odds are correct for much weaker hands.

You are only 60% to win, but to win 3-1 on your money, for an expected return of 180%. With 4 callers, you are only 45% to win, at 4-1, also 180% return. With 1 caller, you are 85% to win 2-1, which is only 170% retrurn. So which one is really better?

All these answers, and the key phrase "bet-sizing" never comes up. Bet-sizing is the key to playing AA. You have to size your bet, for your position and your table, to get the amount of callers you want.

If you want to take a chance and go for a big pot, you want to size your bet to get 3-4 callers. You want to win a pot and go on, you want to size your bet to get 0-1 callers.

The other way to play it is to try and size your bet to get somebody to reraise, so you can come over the top. This is more likely to work when you are in early position.

If I am in first position, I will often min-raise. If the table is tight, this will still fold most people, and if it is a loose table, somebody will reraise and I can come over the top. And I can min-raise in first position with any hand I am willing to play, so I'm not giving away any info.

In late position, or on the blinds, a min-raise isn't going to fold anybody who is already in. So, if you have 2-3 callers, a min raise is good. If you have more, then you need to bet more.

5x the BB usually folds everybody, 4x folds everybody most of the time, 3x usually gets somebody to call, Negraneau's favorite 2.5x usually folds half the players.

So, the amount to raise varies by your position, stack sizes, and the nature of the table. But winning with AA is always about sizing your bet, based on those variables, to get the amount of callers you want.

 

[Stu_Ungar]

You are only 60% to win, but to win 3-1 on your money, for an expected return of 180%. With 4 callers, you are only 45% to win, at 4-1, also 180% return. With 1 caller, you are 85% to win 2-1, which is only 170% retrurn. So which one is really better?

The problem here is that you are assuming that you will be all-in preflop.. which is a great situation for AA. I said that you wanted to make a substantial raise with AA to avoid a multiway pot because AA does not play well post flop in a multiway pot.

The more people you get in the pot, the more people will have chance to out draw you. If the preflop round indicated real strength from you then others should not continue unless they have AA beaten.

AA poses a balancing act. Preflop it dominates, but will rarely get the oppertunity to call an all in, or to have an opponent call if you push all in.. so shoving preflop is not usually a good move.

Post flop it is likely to be the best hand, yet will struggle to build a big pot unless it is beaten.

AA does not improve very well post flop.. it has two outs (both aces and both potential scare cards to your opponent)

So AA tends to win many small pots and loose big ones.

You will generate more profit if you play post flop than if you kill the betting preflop, postflop big pairs (AA included) benifit from heads up play rather than multiway pots.

All these answers, and the key phrase "bet-sizing" never comes up. Bet-sizing is the key to playing AA. You have to size your bet, for your position and your table, to get the amount of callers you want.

I did say in my post that you quoted that you wanted a substantial raise (thats an indication of bet sizing!!!)

 

[PokerJoeAAAA]

I think it was Doyle Brunson who said something like " with AA you are either going to win a small pot or lose a big pot"

 

[lektrikguy]

Pocket aces

Like all others have said-raise raise raise! Let me tell you about a hand I had live a few months ago: I was in big blind(30/60) with 5 7 offsuit. Two limped in and I checked.the flop came out 5 7 3. Two pair for me,so I made a bet of about 150. Both called. The turn was another 7. At this point I have the nuts. I bet 350 i think and the first guy called. The second folded. The turn was a 6. I thought he might be playing the straight and I figured he would fold to the all in so I wanted to get max value out of him. I bet 700 ( more than half his stack) and he flat called. He had bullets (which yes,he held on to way too long,but it makes my point) and ended up going out 2 hands after that. If he had bet them I would have folded. So to beat a dead horse, hit em hard early.

 

[Chamaican666]

I play them, raise to 3-5XBB (depending on position). If i get reraised, Im willing to shove. If you dont get a caller, thats fine. You usually (not always) tend to either win a lil bit of money or lose lots with AAs. I usually like to get away at the flop. If the flop comes rainbow and im over paired the boar dwith no draws then I can make a small bet and get some extra money in the pot. Once the turn hits i make a large pot sized bet (since now ther usually is atleast one kind of draw). If the flop is dangerous tho i make another 3xBB kind of bet, if they raise, I fold. if they call then just have to play it from there. If u make your set and hit another A on the flop, then i play them very agressively, over betting the pot. So that way anyone with flush draws and etc dont get the pot odds to call and draw out on me. So usually u will win some small to decent pots with AA. Only time u can really make a big win with them if ur all in preflop and they hold up.

 

[FTPHeHaTeMe]

$.50/$1 Blinds: Position is always a Big Part of Poker When you have AA Posistion now is meaning how much Value you can get out of them now. If you BB and get them and someone raises to $3 or $3.50 then right then you know they have a PP smaller or a Stronger Drawing hand. I always reraise pre flop with AA to make sure if they are going to crack me for all the money then it will be fair and go both ways Make them pay to draw out on you. so at this point pot would be round about $6 I would reraise something that he will call reraise from $6 to about $10 then he most likely will check on a missed flop rather then always taking control. Just how I play them in cash games.

 

[woody19]

i see aa lose so much just l8ly i usaly bet triple the pot or mabe sometime a bit more just to get rid of the ppl that limp in and catches on the folp and if im called then i prob would bet the pot or half the pot because if i play it slow it usaly doesnt work out for me

 

[flyfish4]

the only time i ever slow play AA is if i know that if i limp the players after me r going to raise because they have been folding when u raise and raising if u limp.

 

[rugby0]

See Harrington's book on how to play AA. The trick is to fool your opponents each and every time you have AA. The watch trick is very neat. But you can come up with others.