___***Full Tilt's RUSH Strategy Thread***___

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I played ALOT of hands today @ rush. And I made a good amount of money! I made more money today @ 10nlRush than EVER in my poker career so far...heh. I usually just play for fun, and end up blowing my roll somehow or another playing outside of BRM or whatever. I think I was on an unbelieveable run because I was not losing any hands at all for a long time. I mean almost every hand was holding up, but eventually in the last 1/2 hour I think variance caught up to me. I am up around 20 buyins for the day maybe a lil more, and lost 3 and 1/2 buyins in the last half hour. I also made 815 ftp points. I did try PLO rush out for a lil bit also, but it was swingy I won a few at first then lost it all and some. I also tried 25nl rush, but am not really rolled for it yet, but did double up from 50bb a time or two and even got to 200bb deep stack from 50bb then I think I lost 50bb or so.


@10nl Rush :I think it is best to be a nit, and to rathole..lol. People are calling down with medium pair alot, or small Aces sometimes. I also think some people are stealing alot, as I caught a couple bluffs with top pair hands vs one time I remember AJo who had missed his inside str8 draw. I also have seen people chasing inside str8 draws lolol. Where are these people when I am sitting at the regular full ring tables? I just wait for a top hand and try to hit a decent to good flop. I think I could probably steal more from late position, I always press quik fold and almost never watch the hand complete unless I have contributed money into it and want to watch it play out(usually post flop tho). I did however have sucess restealing I think from the blinds, I know BB i think some in the SB. When late position would raise I would just 3bet and they fold most of the time, unless they had a real good hand. I have no HUD, but was able to 6 table RUSH with sucess also. I think when I only had a couple tables up I stole a lil bit, but when I added more I wasnt able to a much.

Well this is only day 1 @ Rush for me and I like it so far, but maybe I was just lucky as hell all day... who knows. I think also maybe since RUSH is new, alot of players are "trying" it for the first time. So alot of hands might be against non-cash players who might be used to playing SNG or MTT. I am sure people will develop strategies, and the competition will get harder, or variance will kick my butt after this great run today haha. I am gonna enjoy this while it lasts tho!

I also wasn't really rolled for 10nl, so I had lost my 30$ roll trying Rush for the first time the first day. Lost AA to KK preflop allin we raied and rr each other and all rag board then BAM river K and he won lol. So I deposited again, and started @ the 10nl rush buying in for 50bb and leaving when I hit 100bb, or ratholeing i guess as you can stand up and just sit right back down for anywhere from 40-100bb's. BU T I wouldnt recommend doing it that way, just be rolled for it and buy in for 100bb, which I did after I had ~8 Buyins @ 10nl. If I had enough to buy in for 100bb from the get go I imagine I could be even richer?! Heh.

Well thats my thoughts so far on how to win @ rush. GL on da felt!

PS... Rush is alot of fun imo, once i start i can't stop lol. Probably just because it's new. Like the poker version of crack or something lol

gj on your run today.....I'm not trying to sound like jimmeny cricket here but the variance is pretty bad here imo....you really need to make sure you are rolled with at least 20 bi's. I mean, imagine all those hands fish folded to you in a regular 6max game where they gave you credit for something maybe they shouldnt have. Now lets put those same fish on tilt (cause thats what rush poker does imo.) Sure it sounds like more +ev, which in essence it is. But I'm betting you havent really hit much variance yet. And if you arent rolled, its gonna suck. Be prepared for middle two pairs and gutshots that hit. Watch yourself when you do get deep.
 
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gj on your run today.....I'm not trying to sound like jimmeny cricket here but the variance is pretty bad here imo....you really need to make sure you are rolled with at least 20 bi's. I mean, imagine all those hands fish folded to you in a regular 6max game where they gave you credit for something maybe they shouldnt have. Now lets put those same fish on tilt (cause thats what rush poker does imo.) Sure it sounds like more +ev, which in essence it is. But I'm betting you havent really hit much variance yet. And if you arent rolled, its gonna suck. Be prepared for middle two pairs and gutshots that hit. Watch yourself when you do get deep.

Yeah variance did start to catch up to me and some crap beat my good hands. I acctually turned 40$ into over 200$ today, so I believe I am rolled for 10nl now. I need to just go to sleep now hehe before I do something stoopid. And start fresh tomorrow!
 
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anybody else notice that ppl fold to 3bets more often than usual in rush poker? or maybe it was just my latest session?
 
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Yes I was thinking that about iron man/bonus' also. I earned so many ftp points yesterday I got bonus medals lol. And the rakeback is unbelieveable! Check out how much rake I earned in one day...more than I would make all month playing 5nl...but I usually single/double table with no HUD, but with rush I was able to play 6 tables and still win.


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So we will see how today goes I guess, hope today will be a good day too.


Wow...I just checked my RB account and I'm averaging $6 a day just playing 2 tables of 10NL....interesting, this means that Rush can be very profitable as long as you can at least break even or make some small gains on average. Nice.
 
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Since we are playing our cards and position and not other players I decided to play a lot of play money hands. Now I know that the calls and raises there will be rediculous and may not carry over to the 05/10 game at all but I had success with the following

3x BB with any hand I am thinking of playing. Pot bet if there are limp/callers in front of me. All in if my hand if faced with a re raise and my hand is premium.

Last night I did this and went from 4k to 33,000k in no time.

I hope I can fine tune this for money play maybe someone can help with the adjustments.
 
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anybody else notice that ppl fold to 3bets more often than usual in rush poker? or maybe it was just my latest session?

Yes, no reason to ever limp in if there are no raisers before you. I've been stealing like crazy from the cutoff & button with mediocre cards by 3 betting with great success. If you get caught (face a re-raise, etc.) just lay them down and click on to the next! lol

Since we are playing our cards and position and not other players I decided to play a lot of play money hands. Now I know that the calls and raises there will be rediculous and may not carry over to the 05/10 game at all but I had success with the following

3x BB with any hand I am thinking of playing. Pot bet if there are limp/callers in front of me. All in if my hand if faced with a re raise and my hand is premium.

Last night I did this and went from 4k to 33,000k in no time.

I hope I can fine tune this for money play maybe someone can help with the adjustments.


You'll find out that real money Rush(just like any other real money game) plays a lot tighter. But you have the idea...if you do decide to enter a pot, 3 betting is standard from just about any position. I would only put a pot sized bet out there with AA, KK, QQ pre-flop if you have limpers in front of you. If you do it with AK, AQ, AJ, KQ, JJ,etc you're most likely only going to get called by better OR everyone will fold, so it's not that profitable of a play- at least 3/4 of the time that's what seems to be happening- I've seen it happen on 10NL Rush about a hundred times now. The safer play would be a 4 bet with good premium cards (other that the top 3 monsters).
 
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So is rush a nitfest? If I can't get any reads on my opponents my natural tendency is to tighten up...it's like I'm playing the cards rather than the player...
 
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So is rush a nitfest? If I can't get any reads on my opponents my natural tendency is to tighten up...it's like I'm playing the cards rather than the player...

No it isn't a nit fest. I have had multiple hands where there have been 4-5 limpers. I've had KJ, MP min-raise and called my 3-bet, shove over a pot sized re-raise from me on a J864r board, I had JJ. I've had 99 limp/shove from CO when I had AA in the BB. But to be fair I've also had walks in the BB a few times.
 
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So is rush a nitfest? If I can't get any reads on my opponents my natural tendency is to tighten up...it's like I'm playing the cards rather than the player...

It seems to go in streaks....like 80% of the tables will be super tight for a while then they seem to loosen up for a while...but I would say that the majority of the time, they are pretty tight, minus the few really bad players per table.
 
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Wow rush is fun not sure how to play but I've been winning just playing kinda tight knowing when to pick my spots hopefully I can keep it up.
 
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This is more like a brags/bad beat thread than a strategy thread. There is another thread to discuss Rush poker in general - this one is supposed to be for discussing strategy.
 
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this one is supposed to be for discussing strategy.

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about strategy, cardrunners has a new video by SixPeppers that deals with rush. Haven't had time to look at it yet, but will asap.
 
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Update, since I was on a down streak in Rush, down 4 bi yesterday, I decided to try something different today and see if it worked...and so far, so good. Seems like min-raising pre-flop instead of 3 betting is just as effective if you are bluffing and want to steal, etc. Also, min raising seems to work just as good as 3 betting light with less risk...seems like people are using that "quick fold" button and not paying attention to the raised amount. If the bb happens to call (seems like they do about 50% of the time) then they usually end up folding to a small c bet on the flop.
 
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If you need help make me a mod and I will delete all non strategy related posts in here :) Including mine ;)

This is more like a brags/bad beat thread than a strategy thread. There is another thread to discuss Rush poker in general - this one is supposed to be for discussing strategy.
 
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Thank you for posting in this thread everyone. I haven't tried out Rush Poker yet, but when I do, I will keep all of these strategies in mind.
 
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Trying to figure out a general strategy from whats been posted...

- can make even micro stakes nitty, so stay cautious.
- bigstacks could just be lucky, but can afford to wait for great preflop hands.
- steal from position with almost any two cards, fold to reraises.
- dont be as afraid to threebet.
- dont be as afraid of cbetting.
 
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Rush

The best players to play rush poker are players that like to play the hands not the situation, it can be very frustrating for some players though because they like to get a read on all of the players at the table see how they play, be able to put them on a hand, and use it against them. Obviously you are unable to get a read on any opponents when you are moving every hand lol. i believe it is a good move by Full Tilt and i am happy that they have put it on there, just gives you something different to play.
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There are no player reads so as long as you are playing hands that you yourself can play with +ev and playing them aggressively, then one should be fine. Also I suggest enabling auto top off. I just started enableing the auto top off in both rush and regular cash games and I get so much more respect than I did before I enabled auto top off.
 
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Because there can be no playing the player, positional/statistical poker takes over. It is absolutely correct to raise an unraised hand from late position. The blinds may not even still be around! The table may actually be empty by the time you get around to betting. It is also correct to reraise a LP bet from the blinds.

I would suggest not using that quick-fold button. No action from others is an opportunity for you.

While there is no way to know for sure what other players are like, a very large stack might well indicate over-aggressiveness, much like a huge stack does in a freeroll or the Daily Dollar. Or it could indicate a thoughtful lucky player... cannot be sure.

Rush is definitely a good way to rack up points, for ironman or bonusses. Zip, zip, zip!

It's high variance, but it seems quite possible to play poker, even when it seems like bingo at a gallop. I also like that there can be no name-calling--or you might miss it if it happens. :D
Dooper, I liked your analysis and agree 100%. I have usually bought in at $8 and have rolled to $25 to $35 before exiting several times now. Lost the $8 once now. Good advise!

My best, Wally
 
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Dooper, I liked your analysis and agree 100%. I have usually bought in at $8 and have rolled to $25 to $35 before exiting several times now. Lost the $8 once now. Good advise!

My best, Wally
BTW, wish I had a way to get RAKEBACK on FullTilt...requested to FT in an email, but never got an answer. Any suggestions? Wally
 
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This is over. HEM has released a patch that helps you put player stats back into the rush games.
I don't see where player stats would help anyone in RUSH POKER as it is so fast and opponents do not play their game the same as normal poker....do you really take the time to study the table in RUSH POKER, I do not think so?
GL with HEM, Wally
 
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I don't see where player stats would help anyone in RUSH POKER as it is so fast and opponents do not play their game the same as normal poker....do you really take the time to study the table in RUSH POKER, I do not think so?
GL with HEM, Wally

You can filter stats to include only rush poker hands. And knowing people stats is a huge advantage. Pretty sure some people play super nitty like 5/5 and others open up close to 100% in late position or 3bet almost all the time against late opens.The correct play against those is obviously vastly different...

Knowing people's stats is actually a lot more beneficial at rush than it is at regular tables where observation of player tendencies can give you more info than simple stats would.
 
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So it sorta seems like the game now has the potential to evolve into ultra steroidal hudbot paradise. This would put a big dent in it for me. But I s'pose that's the nature of the online game.
 
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