***2012 PLO Thread***

[baudib1]

Some nuggets from Quadrophobia:

(all hands assume rainbow -- or nonotone -- flops)

If you flop the nuts on AKT you will have the nuts on the river 49% of the time.

If you flop the nuts on JT7 you will have the nuts on the river 14% of the time.

Read that again and let it sink in.

With QJ on AKT, if the turn bricks you will have the nuts on the river 72% of the time.

With 98 on JT7, if the turn bricks you will have the nuts on the river 38% of the time.

 

[BelgoSuisse]

I've been playing 10plo zoom on my mobile phone over breaks at work and in the bus from/to work.

Single tabling zoom has a weird effect on my game on the BTN. I'm playing 76/66 with 54% 3bet.

 

[baudib1]

Nit

 

[dj11]

Belgo, question about the French Stars.

Is the French Stars acting like a skin and you play against the world, or does it stand alone?

 

[BelgoSuisse]

Belgo, question about the French Stars.

Is the French Stars acting like a skin and you play against the world, or does it stand alone?

They play on their own. So a smaller fish pond with a much much higher rake. Terrible place to be.

I'm so glad I moved out of france.

 

[vanquish]

you can take belgo out of france, but you can't take the france out of belgo

 

[baudib1]

Belgo, how much are you winning while playing 76/66/54 from BTN?

You're becoming my hero.

 

[BelgoSuisse]

Belgo, how much are you winning while playing 76/66/54 from BTN?

I have about 600 hands now played on my phone, so win rate is absolutely irrelevant. I was up 6 buy-ins after 400 hands, then back down to 0 in the next 150 hands, and now back up somewhat.

BTN stats are obviously outrageous and probably quite -EV, but I think it's a good exercise to work on using position.

 

[BelgoSuisse]

Also, when playing this LAG at 10plo, I'm paying 26bb/100 in rake.

 

[Jagsti]

Yeah apaz the rake in the micros plo is fkin ridiculous!

 

[jordanbillie]

I made the mistake of playing .02/.04 HU PLO8 a couple times. The rake stacked both of us.

 

[BelgoSuisse]

Standard?

poker stars Zoom $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players

Hero (BTN): $10.00
SB: $20.15
BB: $8.92
UTG: $42.73
MP: $6.06
CO: $10.37

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with 6 :spade: 9 :club: 5 :diamond: 2 :heart:
2 folds, CO raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $1.05, SB calls $1, 1 fold, CO calls $0.75

Flop: ($3.25) 4 :diamond: 9 :heart: 5 :spade: (3 players)
SB bets $3.10, CO folds, Hero raises to $8.95 all in

 

[BelgoSuisse]

Obviously, the reason for 3betting preflop is that I had 4 cards and a button.

 

[baudib1]

ya fine

 

[vanquish]

thats seriously like the worst hand ever to 3b with

 

[BelgoSuisse]

thats seriously like the worst hand ever to 3b with

I know. But it's the best position on the table to do it.

 

[BelgoSuisse]

More PLO in HA.

https://www.cardschat.com/forum/cash-game-hand-analysis-50/25-plo-6-max-time-fold-213297/

https://www.cardschat.com/forum/cash-game-hand-analysis-50/25-plo-6-max-defending-versus-213298/

https://www.cardschat.com/forum/cash-game-hand-analysis-50/25-plo-6-max-flop-nuts-213299/

 

[jordanbillie]

Belgo, trying some of your button experiments. How's this one?

Hand#3057012374000214 - Macau (6-Max) 12374 -- $0.10/$0.20 PL Omaha -- 2012/08/18 - 01:24:11
Dealer: Seat 2
Seat 1: realerowe ($20 in chips)
Seat 2: jordanbillie ($20.85 in chips)
Seat 8: NoTilttt ($18.13 in chips)
Seat 9: mookie3131 ($12.12 in chips)
Seat 10: cashmoney666 ($34.73 in chips)
NoTilttt: posts small blind $0.10
mookie3131: posts big blind $0.20
realerowe: posts big blind $0.20
Dealt to jordanbillie [6d][Kh][7s][Qd]
cashmoney666: raises to $0.40
realerowe: calls $0.20
jordanbillie: raises to $1.90
NoTilttt: calls $1.80
mookie3131: folds
cashmoney666: calls $1.50
realerowe: folds
*** FLOP *** [5h][9s][5s]
NoTilttt: checks
cashmoney666: checks
jordanbillie: bets $4.20
NoTilttt: folds
cashmoney666: folds
jordanbillie: returns uncalled bet $4.20
***SHOW DOWN***
jordanbillie: mucks
jordanbillie wins $5.99

 

[Emoney07]

PLO is one of the most difficult games ive ever played... i stick to NLHE

 

[jordanbillie]

Thank you sir

Hand#3065012320000353 - Macau (6-Max) 12320 -- $0.10/$0.20 PL Omaha -- 2012/08/26 - 01:55:21
Dealer: Seat 2
Seat 1: chimichangas ($7.98 in chips)
Seat 2: fraer_sfs ($12.70 in chips)
Seat 3: purdsterrr ($37.52 in chips)
Seat 8: jordanbillie ($20.96 in chips)
Seat 9: tater49 ($21.89 in chips)
Seat 10: 1 Kingdom ($20 in chips)
purdsterrr: posts small blind $0.10
jordanbillie: posts big blind $0.20
Dealt to jordanbillie 4♦A♠A♣2♥
tater49: calls $0.20
1 Kingdom: calls $0.20
chimichangas: calls $0.20
fraer_sfs: raises to $1.30
purdsterrr: folds
jordanbillie: raises to $4.60
tater49: folds
1 Kingdom: folds
chimichangas: folds
fraer_sfs: calls $3.30
*** FLOP *** 9♣3♥10♦
jordanbillie: bets $9.90
fraer_sfs: is all in $8.10
jordanbillie: returns uncalled bet $1.80
fraer_sfs: shows A♦7♦Q♣2♦
jordanbillie: shows 4♦A♠A♣2♥
*** TURN *** K♣
*** RIVER *** 7♠
***SHOW DOWN***
jordanbillie wins $24.80 with Pair of Aces

 

[baudib1]

well this is pretty thin, stacking second set on a wet board. Stacking bottom pair/no draw for 500 BBs is pretty goddamn heroic. At least he made a boat.


$0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($48.98) 490bb
UTG+1 ($45.75) 458bb
CO ($9.27) 93bb
BTN ($1) 10bb
baudib1 (SB) ($51.62) 516bb
BB ($6.76) 68bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 6 players) baudib1 is SB K:club: J:spade: J:heart: A:spade:
UTG raises to $0.35, 3 folds, baudib1 calls $0.30, BB calls $0.25

Flop: Q:heart: J:diamond: 4:diamond: ($1.05, 3 players)
baudib1 bets $1.05, BB raises to $4.20, UTG raises to $14.70, baudib1 raises to $49.35, BB goes all-in $2.21, UTG goes all-in $33.93

Turn: 4:club: ($104.72, 3 players, 2 all-in)

River: 8:club: ($104.72, 3 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $104.72
UTG shows
4:spade: 6:spade: 8:spade: 7:club:
baudib1 shows Full House Jacks full of Fours
K:club: J:spade: J:heart: A:spade:
BB shows
7:diamond: 6:heart: 10:heart: K:diamond:

baudib1 wins $103.44 (net +$53.74)

UTG lost $48.98
BB lost $6.76

 

[jordanbillie]

Holy crap! NH sir!

 

[Charade You Are]

That's insane. Did you have history with that guy? Was he tilting?

And the previous hand, fraer_sfs, I don't understand. What did he think he had beat?

 

[jordanbillie]

No idea, this is why PLO is very profitable, lol.

 

[baudib1]

That's insane. Did you have history with that guy? Was he tilting?

And the previous hand, fraer_sfs, I don't understand. What did he think he had beat?

He and the rest of the table were on permatilt because of me. I tend to do that. He had gotten his stack almost exclusively from me. Have to say I woulda been pretty permatilted myself if I had something like AdTdQJ