50 cash game hands

Effexor

Effexor

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To save space I condensed this, I was curious if the starting hand selection was ok.

full tilt poker Game #829803248: Table Sierra Vista - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em -

1:35:48 ET - 2006/07/25

Button is (9), SB is (1), and BB is (2)
Hand #, (position), cards, notes


1.(5) Dealt to Effexor K♠ 4♠
2.(4) Dealt to Effexor Q♦ 7♥
3.(3) Dealt to Effexor 4♣ [Td]
4.(2) Dealt to Effexor A♦ J♥ raised PF, hit 2pr, bet the pot, all folded
5.(1) Dealt to Effexor Q♦ K♦ raised PF, missed flop, cbet and won
6.(9) Dealt to Effexor 8♣ [Td]
7.(8) Dealt to Effexor [Tc] 3♣
8.(7) Dealt to Effexor 2♦ J♦
9.(6) Dealt to Effexor 3♦ 4♠
10.(5) Dealt to Effexor J♣ 4♠
11.(4) Dealt to Effexor 9♠ 4♥
12.(3) Dealt to Effexor Q♣ 6♣
13.(2) Dealt to Effexor 9♥ 3♥
14.(1) Dealt to Effexor 3♦ 6♥
15.(9) Dealt to Effexor 4♠ K♠
16.(8) Dealt to Effexor 2♠ [Tc]
17.(7) Dealt to Effexor 9♣ 3♣
18.(6) Dealt to Effexor 3♥ 3♠ limped, folded to 2 reraises
19.(5) Dealt to Effexor [Th] Q♠
20.(4) Dealt to Effexor 5♦ Q♣
21.(3) Dealt to Effexor J♠ A♣ raised PF, cbet when I missed the flop, checked the

turn and folded to a bet on the river, *** RIVER *** [Ts 4c 7c 4h] K♠
22.(2) Dealt to Effexor 7♦ K♥
23.(1) Dealt to Effexor 4♦ J♣
24.(9) Dealt to Effexor J♦ [Tc]
25.(8) Dealt to Effexor 2♦ [Tc]
26.(7) Dealt to Effexor 9♦ Q♣
27.(6) Dealt to Effexor J♠ Q♣ limped in, folded after flop bets *** FLOP *** [7h 8c

Ac]
28.(5) Dealt to Effexor 7♥ 6♥ limped, folded after raise then all-in Preflop
29.(4) Dealt to Effexor 7♦ [Th]
30.(3) Dealt to Effexor 8♦ 8♣ BB, checked, folded to bet on flop of *** FLOP *** [9s

4c Qc]
31.(2) Dealt to Effexor 3♣ [Td]
32.(1) Dealt to Effexor Q♣ 9♠
33.(9) Dealt to Effexor Q♦ 6♥
34.(8) Dealt to Effexor 6♥ [Ts]
35.(7) Dealt to Effexor Q♠ 3♦
36.(6) Dealt to Effexor J♣ 5♥
37.(5) Dealt to Effexor 6♦ [Tc]
38.(4) Dealt to Effexor 5♥ 9♦
39.(3) Dealt to Effexor 9♠ 8♣
40.(2) Dealt to Effexor 9♥ K♠
41.(1) Dealt to Effexor 5♦ 9♦
42.(9) Dealt to Effexor 9♥ 5♥
43.(8) Dealt to Effexor K♣ [Tc] BB, checked. folded to flop bet on *** FLOP *** [3s Ah

Ac]
44.(7) Dealt to Effexor 3♦ K♠
45.(6) Dealt to Effexor Q♦ 8♥
46.(5) Dealt to Effexor 4♣ 3♠
47.(4) Dealt to Effexor 9♦ A♦ called min raise PF, folded to flop bet on *** FLOP

*** [9c Tc Kc]
48.(3) Dealt to Effexor J♥ A♠ raised 5xbb, folded after flop bets on *** FLOP ***

[Ks Jd Qc]
49.(2) Dealt to Effexor 8♥ K♣
50.(1) Dealt to Effexor A♣ 6♣


if there are no notes I folded.

Too tight? Too loose?

I know it's not a huge sample, but it's very representative , in the last 400 hands I only won 16.

Edit: I just noticed that the positions I have listed aren't quite right, somewhere the order got messed up... bah, it's close though, somewhere I must have missed a hand.

 
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Stick66

Stick66

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Hi FXer.

I was on this table with you for a while. At first, I thought you appeared a bit too tight. But with these hands, I probably would have been tight, too. Sometimes you just don't get the cards. My luck was running semi-bad that day. So by the the time I got to that table, I had an aggressive attitude. If you remember, out of all the hands I won I only showed 1 or 2. The rest I was using position combined with semi-good cards and I won by getting a few folds. I'd say my wins at that table were 33% bluffs/64% good cards.

It was kind of a weird table. Like on hand #48 above: When you raised 5x BB w/AJ after 2 limpers, the BB & the 2 limpers called. You and BB folded the flop after the 2 limpers were in for $1. Ends up that Limper #1 had called your PF raise with Q9o and kept betting at 2nd pair. Limper #2 had called your PF raise w/22 and hit his set on the turn. He got the other guy all-in and took it down.

Now why would they call your 5x raise with such junk? Not sure. They were all folding when I raised to 50c. Why not you? Maybe just luck.

Anyway, when your cards won't come, try some bluffs. Right now, I'm really working on picking my spots to bluff. Sometimes I'm right, sometimes I'm wrong. Also, there are some hands that may be worth a limp in an unraised pot like suited connectors or a suited King or Queen. You know. Hands you wouldn't normally play but might work while you're desperate.

To sum up: All I can say is practice bluffing and be patient during your cold-card spells. There's nothing worse than donking off all your chips in frustration when you can't get a hand. Hope we can play again sometime.
 
Effexor

Effexor

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One of the things I noticed about your play compared to mine, was that I didn't bet the flop nearly as hard as you did. That might be why people were willing to call me with sub-par hands and not you, as they could expect to face a much larger bet on the flop from you.

I think I need to ramp up my aggression still. Both PF and afterwards. I also think I may start to show some of the good hands I win ( expected sometime in 2007 when I get one lol )
 
Stick66

Stick66

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Effexor said:
One of the things I noticed about your play compared to mine, was that I didn't bet the flop nearly as hard as you did. That might be why people were willing to call me with sub-par hands and not you, as they could expect to face a much larger bet on the flop from you.

Ahhh. Very interesting. I didn't know it was noticable. Yep, I guess a pot-sized flop bet seems to do the trick in micro-limits. Whether you want a call or not.
 
joosebuck

joosebuck

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48.(3) Dealt to Effexor J♥ A♠ raised 5xbb, folded after flop bets on *** FLOP ***

limp from utg with AJo
 
Stick66

Stick66

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joosebuck said:
48.(3) Dealt to Effexor J♥ A♠ raised 5xbb, folded after flop bets on *** FLOP ***

limp from utg with AJo

Here's the hand. He was actually in middle position (MP). There was a lot of limping going on and he had a tight image. I would have raised there, too.

FullTiltPoker Game #829914608: Table Sierra Vista - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 2:17:32 ET - 2006/07/25
Seat 1: tuna_klr ($5.15)
Seat 2: MrSticker ($9.85)
Seat 3: aDEVIOUSone ($4)
Seat 4: PREMIUM_619 ($12.85)
Seat 5: Wolvie88 ($12.35)
Seat 6: snowave ($8.90)
Seat 7: Effexor ($6.35)
Seat 8: FragrantWind ($3.80)
Seat 9: Rioux ($6.40)
MrSticker posts the small blind of $0.05
aDEVIOUSone posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MrSticker [8d Jc]
PREMIUM_619 folds
Wolvie88 calls $0.10
snowave calls $0.10
Effexor raises to $0.50 w/Jh As
FragrantWind folds
Rioux folds
tuna_klr folds
MrSticker folds
aDEVIOUSone calls $0.40
Wolvie88 calls $0.40
snowave calls $0.40
*** FLOP *** [Ks Jd Qc]
aDEVIOUSone checks
Wolvie88 bets $1
snowave calls $1
Effexor has 15 seconds left to act
Effexor folds
aDEVIOUSone folds
*** TURN *** [Ks Jd Qc] [2d]
Wolvie88 bets $4
snowave raises to $7.40, and is all in
Wolvie88 calls $3.40
snowave shows [2s 2h]
Wolvie88 shows [Qs 9h]
*** RIVER *** [Ks Jd Qc 2d] [8h]
snowave shows three of a kind, Twos
Wolvie88 shows a pair of Queens
snowave wins the pot ($17) with three of a kind, Twos
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $18.85 | Rake $1.85
Board: [Ks Jd Qc 2d 8h]
Seat 1: tuna_klr (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: MrSticker (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: aDEVIOUSone (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: PREMIUM_619 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: Wolvie88 showed [Qs 9h] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 6: snowave showed [2s 2h] and won ($17) with three of a kind, Twos
Seat 7: Effexor folded on the Flop
Seat 8: FragrantWind didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: Rioux didn't bet (folded)
 
Bombjack

Bombjack

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The answer is.... it depends

Look OK to me in general. Difficult to judge, as you would fold certain hands if they were raised in front of you (I usually fold AJ to a raise because it's one of those hands that can get you into trouble). Also I don't think AJ is a raising hand except maybe from late position. Any suited ace such as in hand 50 is worth a limp from late position as well. K-4 suited on the button (hand 15) could be worth a limp in.

At these stakes I don't think you have to play too tight - in fact it could be a disadvantage - because you get great implied odds, i.e. people will pay you off if you hit so there's no harm in spending a few extra big blinds on some extra limp-ins.
 
twizzybop

twizzybop

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Just a question your last hand the a,6 suited?? why didn't you limp in with it at least? Nut flush is always good to beat any others who play soooted cards.
 
Mr.Callaway

Mr.Callaway

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yeah that last hand is the only time you didnt limp in. Its also the only hand with a ace in it you folded. I think you played 50/50 between loose and tight. But every hand you saw a flop with was a good hand your werent reall playing any garbage
 
Stick66

Stick66

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twizzybop said:
Just a question your last hand the a,6 suited?? why didn't you limp in with it at least? Nut flush is always good to beat any others who play soooted cards.

He hasn't given us all the details, you guys. Maybe it was raised too much by the time it got to him.
 
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