Originally Posted by niphon56
If you learn poker from poker school, they teach you fold even A-A in hand on bubble.
I was knocked out on bubble many times, just because i got a good hand.
So. 99.9999% make sure the other player was stealing, 100% fold in theory.
I can see the argument, but I'm not folding QQ+ to a big stack abuser. Maybe I fold QQ with 100 BBs left, but never KK+. I mean, I get the argument and this sould be the "moneymaking" play, but I tend to do analysis balancing the ICM analysis with the "play to win".
KK is over 80% against random cards, including hands like JT and QJ (with blockers to their backdoor outs). Just too much equity to fold in a MTT bubble. I'm likely to call. I can bust out, but MOST LIKELY I'm winning the pot and starting the ITM game with 202.5 BB - ABSOLUTELY DREAM SPOT.
Originally Posted by Zorba
Easy fold Abdi, for the same reason you got KO'd, suckouts happen.
Does that include tourneys where all the prizes are the same, would you still not fold.
If the tourney have all the prizes equal, than ICM rules and I'm not putting 100 BB on the table on the bubble no matter aces. The "call anything with AA because it's +EV" is a "play to win" approach, but no matter what, with 100 BB in this scenario, you already won, you don't have to play pots anymore. Even aces put yourself to risk.