I'm actually surprised by the number of people here who say they employ this strategy occassionally, or once in awhile "for information". It seems to me the information you are going to get from getting to see one hand is far, far outweighed by the value you pass up by not betting. Just my opinion. I have never done this, and will never do this.
There is value in checking it down because that forces the player to turn up their hand first, which means I get to see what cards they were playing. I get information on them that I can use against them later.
I am equally surprised that there are so many folks who reject this out of hand.
Have you never checked down a hand, ever?
I am equally surprised that there are so many folks who reject this out of hand.
Have you never checked down a hand, ever?
hmm..
Not sure how/why it's against the rules. I mean for example, I do this quite often in either, SnG's/ heads up vs someone in the early stages so I can assign ranges on them. Even if I know I have the best hand, I would rather check down to know 100% that I'm seeing their mucked hand rather than trying to get out an extra "worthless" 60 chips so early on.
Never had poker stars tell me I'm colluding with them checking down the nuts
However, though...I've heard it's illegal but hmmf, grey area imo.
I think many players will check down at the river because
They are NOT sure they have the nuts
(Ace high flush with a possible Full house on the board for example)
I mean how often do we KNOW we have the nuts on a hand?
Then it's not the nuts is it? We're talking about THE NUTS. Do you know what that means?
Johnny that WAS my point!
I am equally surprised that there are so many folks who reject this out of hand.
Have you never checked down a hand, ever?
Seriously. I mean, don't you ever get board? In the course of a million hands or so I think I've played every single hand, every single way imaginable at least once. Is it always all about EV?I am equally surprised that there are so many folks who reject this out of hand.
Have you never checked down a hand, ever?
Err... Ram, you can't collude heads-up buddy!