When did every pair become an all in hand

[BlackJesus]

It's simply not true that pairs are instant all-in pre-flop. It's simply not true.

There are cases when shoving deuces are completely legitimate and necessary move. People do that sometimes. But, yeah, people are able to fold even TT, so your statement do not correspond with actual facts.

 

[007Leon]

i guess, when you got only 7 bb or less

 

[neptun1914]

If you are short stack it is completely ok to shove even with low pair especially from late position and without much action before you. Shoving with 50BB and something like 66 or 77 though is something that is completely illogical to me but happens more and more frequently nowadays.

 

[Movi84]

i think a lot of the all-in's are made because the buy-in size is small or free.Another thing is the number of players rising which means a lot of new players that play by their own style .

 

[Katie Dozier]

i guess, when you got only 7 bb or less

This is pretty darn true, barring some unusual circumstances

 

[Zvezda kz]

It's just that recently an influx of new players has come from the casino. These players are used to risking everything and going all-in with any pair. (either yes or no, there are only 2 options). And for this you do not need to study anything with enough minimal knowledge.

 

[Maiuchi]

I think that the fact that there are many more players makes them expand the possibility and types of bets, so now there are many more people who risk everything with any pair to be recreational, or not mind leaving the tournament.

 

[frazzle1991]

Playing tilted I'm also causes this, guilty lol

 

[el_soma77]

Pair of aces and pair of kings in hand is everything, before the flop, hahahahahahaha that's the way I play it like this, I don't raise 3 blinds or 4 bet everything in first position, so that tragedies or bad bets don't happen. my favorite pocket pair is pocket 7.

If you lose, don't bother, understand that you gave your best ...

 

[INISHTE]

Hi friend.

Well, you must meet pure fish, friend, because that move is not very successful.

 

[Jrrazor]

the badest thing is when u fold a 33/44/55 and on flop turn of river comes 3 of a kind and u get folded preflop ...............

 

[Pokerpoet2]

Depends on your chip stack, for instance if you are down to below 10 BBs I would definitely shove all-in pre flop with practically any pocket pair, after all you are holding a pair which beats any suited connectors, unless of course they make a straight or flush, and you are in a situation where you need to double up.
The all-in shoves I hate are hands like A/K or A/Q etc, sure you have a top card with a decent kicker but you do have to connect in order to win the hand, even against Pocket Deuces, It all boils down to your own personal choice, and you cannot wait around for Pocket Rocket's to make an appearance.
Everyone has a favorite hand and when in a situation where they need to double up, will push all-in with it, because they believe it is a lucky hand, that always wins for them, but as we all know there are no sure winning hand's, it is all superstition, and they will remember when it hits for them but forget the times it misses.
Once in a Tournament I was dealt K/J off suit on the BB, not my favorite hand but is a good starting hand, the player UTG pushed all-in with J/10 and declared it to the whole table, saying it was his favorite hand, I waited to see what the rest of the table were going to do, and when everyone folded to me I called simply because I only had to miss the 10, I had actually considered folding if someone else had re-raised before me, but when we both missed the Flop, Turn and River, my King high won! and that is why I do not have a favorite hand.

When the fun Stops, STOP!

 

[weralomos]

What happen to folding a pair it seems now almost at any stage of a tourney, people call off or shove there whole stack with any pair.
When did this become a thing ??

This is probably because you play in fast tournaments, where it is within the norm.
Or if it's a knockout tournament

 

[smallfrie]

What happen to folding a pair it seems now almost at any stage of a tourney, people call off or shove there whole stack with any pair.
When did this become a thing ??

freerolls and low buy-in tourneys is where this happens constantly.

 

[FoxMS]

I think it depends more on the skill and experience of the player. Obviously, most players prefer to play bingo, but not poker.

 

[terryk]

Freerolls and lo buy-in tourneys is where this happens constantly.

i see it everyday,,,players over-playing their pairs like they have the nuts,and others Not calling these players because their afraid,,,esp in BB's :deal: i luv it $$$

 

[GRIN281289]

For about a year, this became a reality. What caused this behavior of the players, I have not thought about it yet, it is necessary to take into account many factors that have occurred during this period.

 

[ekgbeat]

In a high stakes tournament you rarely see anything like that.

That is good to hear that the solvers haven't changed. Sounds like people wanting to gamble, but I guess that was never something new. Just a lot of new people.

 

[AizenFalck]

I think this happens lately in tournaments where you can pay your entry unlimited times in the late registration period. I have noticed that what you say is very right, people now go all in with 22, 44, 55 etc and they do not mind losing because they know that the odds of winning with para are high compared to an A4 let's say so. So you see how most of these hands succeed in an all-in. Regards.

 

[Hemified]

Its the norm lately, I assume its all about the 💰 and by ins, and people don't care..lol. I do the same sometimes if I get into a tournament idc about or if it has rebuys matters too. Good luck and don't hesitate on folding or raising, and remember to have fun.

 

[pltelles]

In freerolls it happens all the time

 

[dirty_nerd]

When did every pair become an all in hand




Tell me about it. I'm glad to know that others have noticed this. For a while I thought people were just picking on me. I am amazed how often people move all in or call large raises with mid to small pairs. I personally think it's just asking for trouble but I have seen it so often that it has forced me to spend some time seeking out more recent poker philosophies and schools of thought. I was starting to think that because I don't play small and mid pairs, that maybe I needed to adjust the way I play. Perhaps I was looking to be convinced otherwise but playing small and middle pairs doesn't work out in my favor a vast majority of the time, but I'm not lucky. I see small and middle pair, pre-flop shoves pay off with big pots way too often. I could be wrong though and just overly sensitive to it when it happens because of the trauma experienced with loosing to those type hands in critical moments during a session. It's clearly a "thing" now and quite honestly the risk/reward analysis of the play could lend strong support. It does keep you on your toes though. Just another example of why pokers is hard.

 

[Carlloss]

I believe there are more people playing poker every day. The more people, the more recreational players, and many, without much appreciation for their money.

 

[Plut41]

I am micro player currently building my bank roll, currently playing 0,01$/0,02$ cash games and slowly trying tournaments. So I get into 2-3 dollar tournaments through satelites and that's kind of a big buy in for me, by bank roll is just 58$. I can't do anything there, people shove on me a lot, play like they know my cards and once I get premium hand my QQ KK get cracked. Is it even worth posing tournament with small bank roll?

 

[Jedrey]

I think online is kind of normal, because most people try their luck, and when they get low pairs, they take the opportunity, which often doesn't work.
Live is already different, you have more reading of opponents and also be more careful.