Should I open shove AJss with 10bb?

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With no ICM considerations and antes, it's a shove.

Just bc you ran into AQ/AK a couple times, doesn't mean it isn't a shove.


I shoved A7ss in EP to MP(8 handed) with ~9BBs, a really nitty image and a BB who was similarly stacked and who had and VPIP of 8% last night in an MTT well before the money. There were big antes and given my image I still like the shove, but it's definitely worth discussion.

AJss with 10BBs is a shove.
 
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With 10BB, in such a tourney, it could easily seam like an automatic shove. The many variables, especially the dynamic of the table could however dictate otherwise. Your decision should be based on whatever info you'd have accumulated at that table...
 
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AJ on 10 bb utg 9 handed is little to weak AK-AQ +77
 
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I genuinely dont get why people don't think this is a good hand to shove? You have TEN big blinds, you're short stacked. Saying you need AQ+ or any pair over 77 is silly, you'll be blinded out of the tournament most of the time, and you don't want to get to the point where oyu're so short stacked you want to see just 1 King or Ace in your hand to shove with.... AJ is certainly alot better then any 2 cards, and you're not going to wait forever... Hes suited , he has a decent kicker if he hits his ace, and top kicker if he hits his jack...

I get everyone's all about table image and position and blah blah, but you're short, so this stuff shouldn't come into account when making your decision.
 
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If the pot consists of equal or greater chips to your stack, then a shove would be optimal.
 
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To me there is no definitive right or wrong answer here. It depends on the situation, the table, how you have been running. You got to ultimately decide that if you shove with the AJ and bust will you feel good about the play. If you answer no then its an obvious fold. Sometimes listening to your gut works as well.
 
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Better yea than no

AJss Utg 10 bbs stack mid stages not near the money is this profitable I've ran into AK a few times and bust ?
It depends on the position you have.
In early position - fold.
In middle position - fold.
In other positions (blinds and late) - better to bet all-in.
 
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I think if we get one back UTG raise it prefers a strong hand. AJ but not bad either.
Weaker players than the recall may also JQ.
If you know a player can tell you more but I failed many times with AK against AJ J I came up and there was so much.
 
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I would shove mostly. But I don't think, that folding is totally incorrect.
 
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with 10bbs in a standard sng you can shove AJs in the hijack...so shove happily
 
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It all really depends. If you have the big stack beside you, I probably wouldn't shove it. As someone stated before, you are about to be 1.5bbs down real soon as you are UTG. I know a lot of people are not a fan of this play but you could even limp, see how the hand develops and then make your decision from there.
 
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I genuinely dont get why people don't think this is a good hand to shove? You have TEN big blinds, you're short stacked. Saying you need AQ+ or any pair over 77 is silly, you'll be blinded out of the tournament most of the time, and you don't want to get to the point where oyu're so short stacked you want to see just 1 King or Ace in your hand to shove with.... AJ is certainly alot better then any 2 cards, and you're not going to wait forever... Hes suited , he has a decent kicker if he hits his ace, and top kicker if he hits his jack...

I get everyone's all about table image and position and blah blah, but you're short, so this stuff shouldn't come into account when making your decision.

What this guy said, you can't count on a much better hand than that. The only thing that would matter slightly to me is if there's someone at the table who has a shorter stack than me. If there was I would probably think a little harder about it and weigh some other variables.
 
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im against shoving in tournys that stage. i would only go for it if it was late stages\appx near the bubble as usually you would find players get tighter at that spot
 
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Mainly it depends on your position at the table. IF your in late position then you can play it, though I wouldnt shove alot of chips, but tripling the BB would make it so you can win a big pot.
However, if your sitting in early and mid, I would just try and limp in with that kind of hand, AQ AK AA KK QQ JJ 1010 are your big threats, so too little outs for you to be aggressive so early in the game.
 
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NO. Not mostly unless you want to make a gut call.

I would shove only when I have suited AJ in either middle or late position.
 
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10BB i probably would shove here for sure but it depends on the stage of the tourney and antes
 
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I remember watching the wsop on TV several years ago. Howard Lederer gave this advice to the player next to him who was short stacked, "Once you are down to 10x BB, shove all in with any A, any suited connectors, or any pair." The announcers then said on air, "He is giving good advice." I have followed it ever since. Why wait for the perfect hand when your chip stack is low. As you lose more to antes and blinds, you lose fold equity. Be aggressive when your stack is still big enough to induce others to fold.
 
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AJss Utg 10 bbs stack mid stages not near the money is this profitable I've ran into AK a few times and bust ?

I would simply call the blind and wait for a raise. then you go over the top. That would be the most profitable way. The best part about this call is that if any 3 bets or chip leader attacking the 2nd largest stack, then i say get the hell out!! So yes, i say call first
 
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This is obv a fistpump jam AINEC. Can you link the RIO video where someone says this should be a fold please OP? I'm intrigued.
 
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I just go all in, 10bb short stack
 
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In any tourney if you are down to 10 BB's you will need to chip up or blind out, A/J UTG is not the best of hands but not the worst either. A little luck goes a long way...
 
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I'd shove with AJ suited in from any position, 10 bb's it is very small stack, cause the main before bubble is to grow your stack.
 
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FR or 6max tourney? how many players dealt in regardless of format?

Are ante's in play?

Any huge stacks at the table? what's your position relative to the big stacks? has it been an agressive table or a passive table?

Turbo blinds or reg speed?

All very good and legit questions
 
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