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jonnye01
Rising Star
Bronze Level
Thanks mate!
I think my overall stats are 100 runs started ($5 level) and 4 $60 runs - no idea if that is good or terrible! Not won one yet though!
Thanks mate!
I think my overall stats are 100 runs started ($5 level) and 4 $60 runs - no idea if that is good or terrible! Not won one yet though!
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jonnye01
Rising Star
Bronze Level
CRStals
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Thats a good rate to be honest, I think I'm between 26 and 28 $5 starts per $60 so that stat, should it continue to hold will pay off.
I do need to update my stats which I'll do on Sunday
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jonnye01
Rising Star
Bronze Level
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jonnye01
Rising Star
Bronze Level
I'm going to try this - current method is trying to get all 6 loaded at the level above before I go for it.
Takes hours to get all six $25 ready to go from the $5 level and then you run bad and you're back to the start again.
Tomacco
Rock Star
Silver Level
very interesting to read you, Chris ..
Thank you for sharing all this information .. Nice work
I'm playing the grand tour too, but starting from one dollar. I always lose at 12 dollars max.
I'm going to try leaving several games open. Great advice!!
Thank you for sharing all this information .. Nice work
I'm playing the grand tour too, but starting from one dollar. I always lose at 12 dollars max.
I'm going to try leaving several games open. Great advice!!
CRStals
Moderator
Moderator
I never knew you were such a grinder Chris. I enjoyed reading this thread.
I'm playing quite a bit right now Jeff but I have fallen in love with this game and have seriously grinded it over the last month. Wish you could join in!
CRStals
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Moderator
I'll keep this going as I continue on the tour Terry. I love the game and hope everyone can get something out of this!
CRStals
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Grinding from the $1's is a tough go - best from ROI but horrible for an hourly win rate but I know people that have done it. Not many...but it is possible.
How many $1 sprints have you played?
CRStals
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As promised and a bit late, here are my updated stats going back to my very first sprint. Couple of things I'll comment on:
My win rate at the $5's has still come down but I'm stll trending above 25% so over 469 starts I'll take it. I would like to get that up closer to 30% but they can be crap shoots sometimes - as my first stake demonstrated. Having more 2nd's than 1st's is frustrating but there's a fair bit of variance in there. My KO rate has also come down and that's a lot to do with prioritizing the sprint over the KO - something I may toy with.
My win rate at the $12's is not over a big enough sample but having an almost equal number of 2nd through 4th's with a big bump on the wins is encouraging and something I hope continues. But getting to a $25 after only 10.3 $5 starts is a great stat if you consider that for every $12 win there were 16 entrants this is a good sign if it holds. Clearly either my style is better suited for the higher buy-ins or I'm playing tighter and winning more (which may be a sign for the $5's...)
Thoughts?
My win rate at the $5's has still come down but I'm stll trending above 25% so over 469 starts I'll take it. I would like to get that up closer to 30% but they can be crap shoots sometimes - as my first stake demonstrated. Having more 2nd's than 1st's is frustrating but there's a fair bit of variance in there. My KO rate has also come down and that's a lot to do with prioritizing the sprint over the KO - something I may toy with.
My win rate at the $12's is not over a big enough sample but having an almost equal number of 2nd through 4th's with a big bump on the wins is encouraging and something I hope continues. But getting to a $25 after only 10.3 $5 starts is a great stat if you consider that for every $12 win there were 16 entrants this is a good sign if it holds. Clearly either my style is better suited for the higher buy-ins or I'm playing tighter and winning more (which may be a sign for the $5's...)
Thoughts?
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jonnye01
Rising Star
Bronze Level
Just won my first Grand Tour - from the $25 level... bizarre
Knocked out the guy in 3rd to get HU - then got the Final Sprint animation, KO'd the last guy next hand then was told I'd won!?
Won $146 and the guy I knocked out in 3rd was for a $21 bounty so maybe that was big enough.
I don't know - so odd.
Still had two proper $60 games left to play, both I got HU, got it in both times with 99 with even stacks and both times they had an overpair, brutal!
Knocked out the guy in 3rd to get HU - then got the Final Sprint animation, KO'd the last guy next hand then was told I'd won!?
Won $146 and the guy I knocked out in 3rd was for a $21 bounty so maybe that was big enough.
I don't know - so odd.
Still had two proper $60 games left to play, both I got HU, got it in both times with 99 with even stacks and both times they had an overpair, brutal!
CRStals
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What may have happened is a small glitch in the game...
The intention is for you to play against people with similar bounties but sometimes at the $25 level if there aren't enough players in the $60 level...they pair 2 $60 bounties with 2 $25 bounties.
Mathematically there's no way for you to win the grand tour from the $25 level against 3 others in that level:
$25 bounty --> $12.50 to your bounty to get knocked out. If you take all three out that's only $37.50 to your bounty, so you had to have been against higher players and may not have realized it.
But whatever - take it! Congrats!
The intention is for you to play against people with similar bounties but sometimes at the $25 level if there aren't enough players in the $60 level...they pair 2 $60 bounties with 2 $25 bounties.
Mathematically there's no way for you to win the grand tour from the $25 level against 3 others in that level:
$25 bounty --> $12.50 to your bounty to get knocked out. If you take all three out that's only $37.50 to your bounty, so you had to have been against higher players and may not have realized it.
But whatever - take it! Congrats!
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jonnye01
Rising Star
Bronze Level
Yes mate I started with 14bb and they all had 28bb!
CRStals
Moderator
Moderator
That's definitely what happened then - no way you would ever start with that big of a deficit unless the bounties weren't level and a $25 and a $60 getting in there would explain it.
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jonnye01
Rising Star
Bronze Level
Thanks for confirming - very lucky!
On another quite unbelievable note
My wife has just asked what this game I keep playing is. Loads up her account and says she is going to have a go.
Loads ONE $5 game - WINS Grand Tour - WTF!?
Looks at me like some sort of idiot not knowing what's so hard about it all! haha ridiculous!
On another quite unbelievable note
My wife has just asked what this game I keep playing is. Loads up her account and says she is going to have a go.
Loads ONE $5 game - WINS Grand Tour - WTF!?
Looks at me like some sort of idiot not knowing what's so hard about it all! haha ridiculous!
CRStals
Moderator
Moderator
Good for her! Just remember...
While this is a high variance, high reward format it does only take 1 sprint ultimately to win a grand tour.
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jonnye01
Rising Star
Bronze Level
After grinding Grand Tour for the last two weeks I had a session today that might put an end to my time on the Tour!
Won 3 tours in the two weeks which was fun (been playing from the $5 level).
Today I played 100 $5 games
I won 9... NINE
I lost all 9 of the $12 games.
Game didn't change - just didn't win a hand for 5 hours lol
AA all in 20bb v AK... lose
KK lose etc etc
Extracting value in standard spots and they river gutshot etc
I lost with a straight flush in one pot to a higher one...
Realising you can have a -$421 session playing the $5 in a format where bounties should keep you somewhat alive during a bad session was pretty crushing.
Unsure whether to keep grinding - lost all enjoyment of it today.
Won 3 tours in the two weeks which was fun (been playing from the $5 level).
Today I played 100 $5 games
I won 9... NINE
I lost all 9 of the $12 games.
Game didn't change - just didn't win a hand for 5 hours lol
AA all in 20bb v AK... lose
KK lose etc etc
Extracting value in standard spots and they river gutshot etc
I lost with a straight flush in one pot to a higher one...
Realising you can have a -$421 session playing the $5 in a format where bounties should keep you somewhat alive during a bad session was pretty crushing.
Unsure whether to keep grinding - lost all enjoyment of it today.
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Kontos_198
Rising Star
Bronze Level
Hello
I ve played grand tours on pokerstars from the start i won couple of them and i have some final races too
Before 6 days happened somthing to me two times in a row on the same race (25$)
On 19/8 i ve played my grand tour matches as usual i won 4 in an a row and i climb to 25$ race with bounty of 27$
And then pokerstars starts the table with 3players of 25$ race (27$ bounty each)
And a player of 60$ buy in (54$ bounty) something that means pokerstars give him double chip advantage vs us
On the next day again i won 4 race in a row and i am going to play my 25$ race with 32$ bountys
Then pokerstars put in a table of 60$ players (and the 3 players has more than 60$ bounties) they play final race if someone won the match they get paid but still i have to play another race after if i won . so pokerstars give them again double stack advantage and if i won someohow vs 3 double stacks i have to play again another game
I informed support either greek one and the english one and noone response to me
Also sent a twitter and message to support on twitter and still no respone and this is the 6th day
Idk if something like this happened to you or anyone?
I ve played grand tours on pokerstars from the start i won couple of them and i have some final races too
Before 6 days happened somthing to me two times in a row on the same race (25$)
On 19/8 i ve played my grand tour matches as usual i won 4 in an a row and i climb to 25$ race with bounty of 27$
And then pokerstars starts the table with 3players of 25$ race (27$ bounty each)
And a player of 60$ buy in (54$ bounty) something that means pokerstars give him double chip advantage vs us
On the next day again i won 4 race in a row and i am going to play my 25$ race with 32$ bountys
Then pokerstars put in a table of 60$ players (and the 3 players has more than 60$ bounties) they play final race if someone won the match they get paid but still i have to play another race after if i won . so pokerstars give them again double stack advantage and if i won someohow vs 3 double stacks i have to play again another game
I informed support either greek one and the english one and noone response to me
Also sent a twitter and message to support on twitter and still no respone and this is the 6th day
Idk if something like this happened to you or anyone?
CRStals
Moderator
Moderator
This is just like a KO SnG with the exception that if you win the round you don't win your bounty - but the reward at the end is definitely worth it for the buy-ins that we'd be playing at. Even from the lower buy-ins I feel there's more profit here than in a standard KO SnG
CRStals
Moderator
Moderator
It's a high variance format no question but the added bounties make this a fascinating and fun format to play. However like straights, if you go chasing bounties you can have massive downswings