You are UTG with 40BB in a 9ring, MP players are loose, BB too. You have AsAd after the break. you raise 4x, the MP1 with 19BB 3bet x7, MP2 with 70BB calls, everybody folds. You 4bet 20x, they call. Flop is 7s7d9s. Whay would u do after?

If I'm reading this correctly then you'd only have about 25% of the pot left in your stack, and MP1 is already all in? So with those attacks just shove the rest in, given the stack to pot that shouldn't be scaring MP2 away

I would definitely give all in, as I would hardly have a 7 on the flop and bluff and your equity is better.

After all this you are committed to the pot, only the shove is left

On a raised pot looks like a good flop for AA. Keep betting.

All in. there is nothing to think about here. If someone tries to suck out on you it will be expensive. You also have a max runner flush draw.

At the flop, I would have jammed all in. They were willing to play ball and you were already in heavy. By the flop, yes an all is called for. The other guy could attempt a bluff and this just shuts him down from that. Then again, bluff from him and shove from you would be good.

Well, can you believe that the villain called with this.
I did shove the flop.

Your stack is 40bb, you have a pocket pair of AA, you make a 3-bet, the opponent makes a re-raise, in this case you do not need to make a call or re-raise, you have only one move here is to put all-in.

You played badly on the preflop. Your first bet was very good, but when you have AA and get a re-raise from a short player, you have to go all in! You have the strongest and best hand, in this situation everything is very simple! The second player paid well when he called x7! To avoid a bad option for yourself, when you see the river, the second player must be knocked out, using all in and easily get chips when he made a call after the first player and all the chips of the first! In the current situation, you should not invent problems for yourself!

Originally Posted by Alex70793

Your stack is 40bb, you have a pocket pair of AA, you make a 3-bet, the opponent makes a re-raise, in this case you do not need to make a call or re-raise, you have only one move here is to put all-in.

Agree witht that one. Considering the action preflop you are risking to be pot committed on the flop by 4-betting to 20bb so instead a 4-bet shove looks like a better option. If villain still calls loose then nothing you can do but also nothing you can regret as you have the best hand preflop.

Originally Posted by LFC_yllnwa

You played badly on the preflop. Your first bet was very good, but when you have AA and get a re-raise from a short player, you have to go all in! You have the strongest and best hand, in this situation everything is very simple! The second player paid well when he called x7! To avoid a bad option for yourself, when you see the river, the second player must be knocked out, using all in and easily get chips when he made a call after the first player and all the chips of the first! In the current situation, you should not invent problems for yourself!

Yes you are right, however I think that the other fella was going to call anyway because he was playing this way all the time.

lol what happen there of cource and call you this is one badBeat man!!

Originally Posted by peaceofcoke

Yes you are right, however I think that the other fella was going to call anyway because he was playing this way all the time.

I can argue with you. But maybe you're telling the truth, because we can't imagine what player 2 would do. But you have 40bb (player 2 has 70bb), when you play all in, he has to bet more than 50% of the pot.. I don't know.. I think you should give more statistics about the tournament: what stage, what prizes, how many people are left before the prizes or is it the final table? I do not know any of this, and it is difficult to talk about the possibility of making a very large call!

Definitely in this case all in is the optimal solution. But AA ofc is not invincibile.

There's a saying: small cards brings big pots, guess that works pretty much of the time

With the pre-flop action this is an easy shove.

I also don't mind a pre-flop shove. A pot sized raise after the 3-bet and call would be 33.5BB, so shoving with 40BB is not crazy and you pick up a nice sized pot at little risk, or will normally be heads up with a huge advantage.

You've already invested a lot in the pot. I think you can go all-in straight away in this situation. The flop only helps a few players. A C-bet is therefore mandatory and then you can go all-in right away.

Originally Posted by LFC_yllnwa

You played badly on the preflop. Your first bet was very good, but when you have AA and get a re-raise from a short player, you have to go all in! You have the strongest and best hand, in this situation everything is very simple! The second player paid well when he called x7! To avoid a bad option for yourself, when you see the river, the second player must be knocked out, using all in and easily get chips when he made a call after the first player and all the chips of the first! In the current situation, you should not invent problems for yourself!

Sooooo if we let them get to the flop and that happens should we fold?

Originally Posted by Shay

Sooooo if we let them get to the flop and that happens should we fold?

You repeat the question of the author of the topic) No! In this situation, it is impossible to fold on the flop! When you have the best hand and get a re-raise from your opponent, you have to play the preflop very aggressively, but if you played poorly, the flop gives you another chance and you have to play all in, except for one situation, I think! When there are 3 cards of the same suit on the flop, but your aces do not fall into this suit, and this is very dangerous for you (a flash draw for the opponent), you need to play carefully!

easy call

just push the rest to the middle, but in those spots, a lot of times against loose players, if you straight shove pre, usualy you will get at least 1 caller

Keep betting. I probably would put All in because it is hard to believe that the others have a 7 in their pocket.

Originally Posted by peaceofcoke

You are UTG with 40BB in a 9ring, MP players are loose, BB too. You have AsAd after the break. you raise 4x, the MP1 with 19BB 3bet x7, MP2 with 70BB calls, everybody folds. You 4bet 20x, they call. Flop is 7s7d9s. Whay would u do after?

There are a lot of situations that can happen with AA . What is the stage of the tournament, what is the stack, what are the options ....There is only a wish not to put AA in the multi-mode, the power of this hand immediately disappears ... One - on-one is the most winning olin . In general, you should not always be confident in your hands in long tournaments...Always evaluate the situation and outplay your opponents with your skill rather than looking for simple ways like Ollin .

keep betting or check raise. bet size is 33% and trigger the opponent to blaff all in.

personally, I would have shoved preflop. As strong of a hand as AA might be, you still don't want to play against multiple opponents. If they fold, well, great then, you won a lot of dead money. But if one of them calls, you are a huge favorite.


And as for the situation you described, Its definitely an allin situation on any flop. your Stack to Pot ratio is to high, you are very committed, and cannot ever fold

Originally Posted by WickedFRoST

personally, I would have shoved preflop. As strong of a hand as AA might be, you still don't want to play against multiple opponents. If they fold, well, great then, you won a lot of dead money. But if one of them calls, you are a huge favorite.


And as for the situation you described, Its definitely an allin situation on any flop. your Stack to Pot ratio is to high, you are very committed, and cannot ever fold

I do the same. I learned the hard way not to limp AA. A guy can get a two pair and get you out.

There Isn’t a magic formul. But when you received the 3 -bet, you need to put all in because your stack.

Originally Posted by peaceofcoke

Well, can you believe that the villain called with this.
I did shove the flop.

with all the investment so far, the only way is All In, no regrets!

The pair of AA can be killed very easily, for this reason, when I come out I always throw all in, because it is less likely that they will bind you cards by making an initial bet

The question is not how he played the preflop, but what to do next. I'd keep betting, hoping my opponent doesn't have a 7.

I cant imagine what field can it be where so weak players get with you all the way.
But doesn't change the fact that if they re-raise your bet, no matter what are the circumstances considering your stack or in general its 99% all-in all the time.

Originally Posted by carlosnuno

The pair of AA can be killed very easily, for this reason, when I come out I always throw all in, because it is less likely that they will bind you cards by making an initial bet

any pair can be bit ollin, that's a coinflip)))

but ace has better chances than others

I think I would have gone all-in after the other raises, you have the best hand. Maybe a few are not willing to risk everything. SO take the pot now which seems to be a nice size or at least it may thin the competition by a player or two.

For sure all-in preflop

With aces, I almost always raise. If I play cash and there is an aggressive player at the table, then limp with aces from early position.

I don't like to rush, but AA is always AA, and if I beat regardless of whether it's a Cash or tournament, I risk it, 80% to 20%, for sure

all in no messing! boom

Fold. Definitely.

Originally Posted by LFC_yllnwa

You played badly on the preflop. Your first bet was very good, but when you have AA and get a re-raise from a short player, you have to go all in! You have the strongest and best hand, in this situation everything is very simple! The second player paid well when he called x7! To avoid a bad option for yourself, when you see the river, the second player must be knocked out, using all in and easily get chips when he made a call after the first player and all the chips of the first! In the current situation, you should not invent problems for yourself!

I don't understand why you would wanna deny equity with AA. Like what is gonna happen if you jam all in, basically the guy with 70BB is gonna fold, then you are playing heads up against the 20BB stack.

Raise 20BB good, because it looks like you are trying to bully the deep stack out of the pot, and you have potentially a weakish hand.

Also that way the guy calls, and if he flops a pair, he has to go with his hand, while being a huge under dog.

It's like, if you jam AA in against a flopped pair, vs let's say, a pair of jacks, your equity is about the same. You are huge favourite.

Of course somewhere around sub 10% of the time, your AA will be out flopped, but that's just the nature of the game.

Anyways, point is, I think your assessment is a bit ridiculous lol. OP got unlucky, not much you can do. Guy could easily of had a open ender or slow playing KK QQ, JJ, even 10's. Could be as loose as guy shots too. You never know, people stupid things all the time.

You gotta give them a bit of rope in my opinion. Also, you gotta give action, to get action.

might as well go all in at this point, you've committed the majority of your chips to the pot so no turning back

put 10 bb or more, maybe all in... if i m in front the risk is not mine...

Originally Posted by peaceofcoke

You are UTG with 40BB in a 9ring, MP players are loose, BB too. You have AsAd after the break. you raise 4x, the MP1 with 19BB 3bet x7, MP2 with 70BB calls, everybody folds. You 4bet 20x, they call. Flop is 7s7d9s. Whay would u do after?

does 7x = 7bb? (or 7x the size of previous bet?)

If it's 7bb & 20bb... your sizing pre is poor. You're putting in half your stack & you're only going to have ~ 1/3 pot sized bet left in stack.

Don't slow play your AA's most of the time is not good.

I actually get mad when someone calls 1BB with AA, they should go all in instead.

If i have more than 20 BB i use to raise 10 BB, if i have less than 20 i go all in

Raise in the hope that who will 3bet or allin

I just go all in. Too many times I limped in the past and was burned with a garbage two pair.

in his 4bet calling range ak + kk qq ,and very little 7, so we play for the whole stack.

I would go all in on this flop because I wouldn't give the opponent a 7, but rather what we AK AQ AJ A 10, small pocket maybe ... I would put the hand all in after the flop because I still hold the AA and assume that I'm in front