How to use late registration to your advantage?

[jordanbillie]

I still think you are better off playing from the start and having an opportunity to get chips from the fish before they are gone rather than jumping in at the last minute and hoping you get lucky with your short stack. If you are a short stack expert then why not just play short stacked tourneys?

It's a mathematical loophole essentially. Many times you are "hoping to get lucky" after you are already in the money.

Here are some bullet points:

1) It's not really that big of an advantage to accumulate an early chip lead.

2) Playing from the beginning of the tournament, take a look at the average (and above average) players ITM (in the money) % (25% is about average).

3) Understand that you can outperform this ITM% (easily!) by using proper game selection and last minute late registering.(my ITM% is 42%).

4) By balancing ITM% and ROI (with your on the felt aggression) you can find your sweet spot (many great players are 30 - 35% ITM and ROI).

5) It shouldn't take long to notice that you can outperform early reggers and your hourly will be even greater, because of the time savings.

6) It's not all luck with 10BBs

7) Remember, our focus is on the quantum game (not just on 1 tournament)!

 

[pokerguy79]

Agree 100% with you, mate! That's the most important skill to master.

I couldn't agree more. Whenever there are PKO TOURNEYS, you want to jump in from the start or as soon as you can because it just makes sense, the reason why is that your evenly stacked, whereas later on in a tournament, to anyone who is being "Totally Honest"", knows that the RNG typically favors big stacks over Little Stacks, as it is designed to end tournaments as quick as possible, so the the casino can make the max amount it can, so always try to play when PKO MTT's.n


Now as far as regular MTT TOURNAMENTS, to me I agree with the statement I'm replying to. How many times have you jumped in a tournament with like an hour or two "Late Registration" just to see that money just went back & forth where it was just a waste of time to sit through all that, but other tournaments, rather you or another player you've seen, jump into a tournament at the end where either yourself or a player who just joined in the last 5 mi utes of registration, end up coming ahead within the first 10 minutes of yourself or another player joining, and now you or another player now have more chips than the person who's been playing from the very beginning to 2 hours later.

You have to keep in mind if you just bought into a tournament at the very last final minutes of a late registration, generally the RNG does favor Big Stacks over Little Stacks, no matter how crappy the Big Stacks hand is, but when you just jump in it's not going to try to make it super obvious and just take you out, let's say 7 out of 10 times, plus you have to remember your not the only person that jumping in at the very last minutes of a late registration, plenty of others as well.

Like say tonight on one of the sites I play on, I literally jump at the very last seconds of a MTT(multi-table-tournament) and then it's add on time. Now I haven't played 1 hand, late registration lasted an 1 hour, now I jump in, without playing 1 single hand yet, click the ADD ON BUTTON, which gives me an extra 10k, maybe 20 people left and pays 6 places or less, and generally I win the tournament on most of them.

Give it a try, you'll see all these other players didn't really go up in chips, AT ALL. All they did was play "Musical Money" instead of "Musical Chairs", just going back and forth with no big gain ahead of when they first started.

I play short regardless if it's Tournament by registering at the very end of Late Registration OR rather I'm playing Cash Games, rather it's online or playing LIVE with a real dealer at a casino poker room. I know you'll see people buy into a game with the max amount, and they'll say so they can get the max out of a hand when it comes to that possible Big Hand they're waiting on, or they'll say the BOOK SAYS, BLAH BLh BLAHHHH!!

Let me tell you something, I went 2 years without a loss playing 2/5 NL, back before the casinos came here and I had to drive to Lawrenceburg Indiana, not to mention I played and talked to Kevin Hart, back when he was in Comedy Central and got him for $300, and this is how you know how I tense poker can get, when he sat down, guess what, no one gave a F**K and kept playing.

So I would buy in for $200 and make about $1500 or more, and 95% of the time I never had to rebuy. When the casinos finally came to Ohio I had to adjust my game playing 1/2 NL, because there's never a bunch of 2/5 tables to play on due to everyone playing 1/2 NL. ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS remember the "Higher Stakes" is a lot easier to win and gets rid of most of the people who think they're good, but they suck, or the people who lose and say I just play this for fun and don't spend my rent money on it as they crush their coffee cup in their hand and extra butt hurt about the money their down, them type people. Also players at 1/2 NL who like to play "2, 8, OFFSUIT" would go quickly broke at Higher Stakes.

Now always buy in for the minimum when starting out. Let's say we're playing 1/2 and whenever someone gets knocked out the game they can buy up to the biggest stack on the table, so would you rather spend $100 to $200 on a hand you have a great chance of hitting or $500 to a $1000 on a hand just like it, the only difference is you didn't take as great of a hit if it doesn't hit compared to the guy who lost a lot.


Keep in mind I AM TALKING ABOUT LIVE DEALER POKER, NOT RNG POKER. I try not to play Cash Online, it's beyond rigged, and a bunch of back and forth so they can make rake or try to make max rake per hand. If you choose to play online for cash games, YOU DEFINITELY BUY IN FOR THE MINIMUM, DON'T BE DUMB, AND THE RNG IS NOT TOTALLY RANDOM, THERES A LOT OF FACTORS Programmed IN THAT RNG.

 

[gustavofuentes2]

what is the best strategy for tournaments with and without bounties in terms of when to enter the tournament, when the late registrations are dating or so what is the tournament open?

I think that is a matter of what your style of play is. If you are a tight player, you need more time so that your card may come out. If you are a loose player, then you can get in just before the late reg ends and hope that you can bluff your way to a decent stack before you slow down.

 

[Berandir]

I see many players using late registration in tournaments, but I honestly don't have an opinion on this game tactic! I prefer to manage my stack from the beginning of tournaments!

 

[Dimidrol2]

Not using re-entry several times will definitely help in your goals, and so come in and play, the winner is the one who will play longer.

 

[Lena M]

what is the best strategy for tournaments with and without bounties in terms of when to enter the tournament, when the late registrations are dating or so what is the tournament open?

I will never register for a knockout tournament or hyper tournament if that tournament has already started. Late registration in such tournaments makes playing more risky, and such a risk is not foreseen by my bankroll management system. As for other tournaments, this issue is individual and each case must be considered separately.

 

[pancho_1954]

In bounty tournaments I like to play from the beginning of the tournament because if I wait a long time and the intention is to win a bounty I feel like I have a disadvantage compared to other players, so from my point of view it is better from the beginning when we all have the same amount of chips, the only one I make a difference is when it is mystery bounty since those tournaments have very long registration and the bountys are placed after closing the registration (at 888poker)

 

[skaterick]

late reg in normal MTT is just a winning ,+EV move . in bounty or PKO events it's the opposite !

 

[najisami]

It's definitely not worth entering a tourney at the last minute if the starting stack would be less than 15 blinds when registering, especially if it's not a rebuy tournament.

 

[Igor Popadyk]

if you have enough skills to play with a small stack and are ready to play push-fold, then you can benefit from it, but also be prepared to crash quite often, but I think that entering with a stack of less than 20 bb is super unprofitable

 

[Matt_Burns88]

Give this video a watch -

 

[RENEY444]

It saves plenty of time if you enter late . Go big or go home !

 

[skaterick]

great video Matt B88 , thanks .

 

[odonob]

Play late and you will be relatively fresh mentally.
The downside of a late entry is that you may run out of time very quickly and not be able to build a stack.
Early stage entry means you can build a stack with less risk, see more flops and not have to go all in a lot.

 

[antonis32123]

If it's a high buy in tourney or a bounty tourney , then I would like to play it from the very beginning. But in other cases I like late registration, especially if it's a low or micro buy in event (that I usually play)

 

[mariale_1990]

When I start playing poker I liked to register from the beginning without wasting a second, but for a few years I have taken into account the initial stack, blind time and how long the registration time is, in a tournament with a long registration time I register a little later to be able to withstand many hours of tournament, if it is a fast blind and bounty tournament I register from the beginning

 

[andron205]

it makes sense but we need to play more aggressively