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DS3
Legend
Loyaler
No, seldom if ever.
If you know your push fold range, if anything, it is an exciting moment when you can dramatically increase your stack.
In one recent session I had AA fail and then a Full House got busted by quads. Next session, my AA put out KK and AQ to triple my stack. Swings and roundabouts. But, it is an unavoidable part of the game particularly in MTTs. You aren't getting anywhere without winning coin flips, so you might as well embrace them.
If you know your push fold range, if anything, it is an exciting moment when you can dramatically increase your stack.
In one recent session I had AA fail and then a Full House got busted by quads. Next session, my AA put out KK and AQ to triple my stack. Swings and roundabouts. But, it is an unavoidable part of the game particularly in MTTs. You aren't getting anywhere without winning coin flips, so you might as well embrace them.
daddybrooks
Rock Star
Bronze Level
Yeah, not scared of the all-in, either jamming it in or calling. However, either way, it does get the heart rate up a bit when it's still with cards left to come out. I'm not a fan of sweating those last cards hoping my hand doesn't get sucked out upon.
P86
Visionary
Bronze Level
I'd say avaid unnecessary shoves or allins but no point in being afraid if you are confident of the spot or the read go for it and no matter what poker isn't an exact science in which each time you have the best hand means you win. Once I accepted that bad beats don't bother me that much...
AizenFalck
Legend
Bronze Level
I understand that sometimes it can be frustrating and the truth is that many of us get carried away by the fact that a good hand has a better chance of winning than an inferior hand. But the truth is that in poker anything is possible, a pair of aces may well be beaten by a 4 9 offsuit if the right cards appear on the table, annoying? Yes, can it happen? completely. That is why an all-in at a table is always a moment of tension whatever the scenario. Regards.
6
63burner
Visionary
Bronze Level
You don't have to take a chance, until you have to..
. Usually, the smart thing to do is fold an all-in and play another hand. My example: MTt: getting late, have A3(suited), I shove all-in.
Short version, opponent accepts my all-in, hits the Ace, and pairs the board with his kicker; I lose to their full house. It doesn't hurt so bad when you know you are going against TAG tactics, despite the probabilities.
I was an underdog, took a chance, and lost; I knew what I was doing; it's a coin-flip, the chance you have to take to win a Mtt.
. Usually, the smart thing to do is fold an all-in and play another hand. My example: MTt: getting late, have A3(suited), I shove all-in.
Short version, opponent accepts my all-in, hits the Ace, and pairs the board with his kicker; I lose to their full house. It doesn't hurt so bad when you know you are going against TAG tactics, despite the probabilities.
I was an underdog, took a chance, and lost; I knew what I was doing; it's a coin-flip, the chance you have to take to win a Mtt.
misterwilliams
Enthusiast
Silver Level
All-In Pre-Flop, scary for a reason
Going All-In pre-flop is scary and was a weakness of mine. It was a poor habit I picked up from inexperienced players early in my poker career. Today, I rarely go all-in pre-flop, and that choice has done wonders for my play. Do not get me wrong; the urge to go All-In is strong sometimes; however, statistics of my play have shown I play better when I refuse to go All-In pre-flop. :deal: (Bear in mind that the amount of Big Blinds your stack has plays an important factor.)
Going All-In pre-flop is scary and was a weakness of mine. It was a poor habit I picked up from inexperienced players early in my poker career. Today, I rarely go all-in pre-flop, and that choice has done wonders for my play. Do not get me wrong; the urge to go All-In is strong sometimes; however, statistics of my play have shown I play better when I refuse to go All-In pre-flop. :deal: (Bear in mind that the amount of Big Blinds your stack has plays an important factor.)
ObbleeXY
Visionary
Bronze Level
The outcome of any given hand is not really relevant. What is relevant is whether you made the correct decisions. Correct decions will make you money, whereas lucky hits will stifle your development.
I don't really feel any emotion when someone has shoved all in. I just try to evaluate whether I am ahead, what stage the game is in, and whether it is a good idea to stake a major (or complete) portion of my stack on the current hand against the current opponent, keeping in mind where I a sat, and how they play.
You can train your fear away by playing high-frequency-shove games (e.g. the grand tour...Neymar KO poker, Spin-n-gos...
Study up, perhaps, on GTO poker so you can be more comfortable with the maths behind the decisons.
Or...play lower stakes. Generally, you should not be playing at a stakes level which makes you feel that way. And if you feel that way whilst playing online, you are going to get killed when you play live...as this may translate into a perceived weakness...and the sharks will team up against weak fish.
The best way to deal with this, in game, is to stop playing crappy hands. Stop limping. Stop calling. You either bet or fold and play hands that support this primary strategy.
Then you add layers on top -- like attacking the BB... 3-betting out of position, check-raising in position, Aggressive CBet sizing.
Bottom line -- once you are playing the maths game and not the psychological game, you start out ahead.
Play more games. I've played between 75-100K hands in the past year. It is nigh on impossible to get emotional with every shove when you see it every few minutes.
PLAY MORE GAMES
Cheers,
ObbleeXY
ObbleeXY
Visionary
Bronze Level
PS I just lost a shove after flopping Ace-High flush vs KK.
Unfortunately Turn was K.
River was K
NutFlush destroyed by KKKK.
Chip-wise, it hurt.
Otherwise...already forgotten which game it was in. Doesn't matter. Move on.
Unfortunately Turn was K.
River was K
NutFlush destroyed by KKKK.
Chip-wise, it hurt.
Otherwise...already forgotten which game it was in. Doesn't matter. Move on.
ObbleeXY
Visionary
Bronze Level
Good point.
People are far too ready to shove with a big stack.
You almost allude to Kid Poker's version of pot-control...keep the pots manageable and you can reduce the variance and getting impacted by 72o hitting well...
For example, shovong AKs looks great on paper...but with a table full of LAGs or Fish...it can quickly degenerate into the worst hand. So raise for value when you open...but no need to shove it. A tournament is rarely a race. Keep your open shoves at bay until you are late game trying to recover from a bad beat.
If you are confident that your actual poker decisions are better than others at the table, then pre-flop shoves should be rare as it will more likely reduce your equity than increase it.
Get your value.
But in the end -- reviewing my stats...my Calling of shoves had been a huge leak. If you've got a made hand and it won't go multiway, sure, give it a shot. But IMO you're better off holding mediocre cards against a single opponent, than you are with good cards agains 5 chancers.
Play the maths. The rest will work itself out.