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Do you think that bad bets influence tournaments a lot and more is it the way we play them that causes us to lose more chips? Do new players always set their sights on conspiracies and things like that?
 
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Do you think that bad bets influence tournaments a lot and more is it the way we play them that causes us to lose more chips? Do new players always set their sights on conspiracies and things like that?
I agree with the fact that in freerolls very often we see situations when a weaker hand runs over a stronger one. I started to notice that I rarely win 2 hands in a row when I get monster hands (like KK, QQ, JJ, AK, for example). And so yes, very often in tournaments I see conditional A8s run over conditional AJs, 1010s, 99s on the river. I would love to see the overall statistics on % percentage of such moves for all players. But such statistics, unfortunately, do not exist. :rolleyes:
 
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Bad beats have always existed and will continue to exist.
I think the fundamental thing is to see the part of your game and what is the basis for having so many bad beats.
In general if your game is solid, you will greatly reduce the chance of badbeats.
Greetings:):):)
 
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For some reason I have had several bad beats (Both ways) lately.. Full houses losing to four of a kinds, etc.
 
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Most, as in 99.99999998% of new players vastly over estimate their ability & the strength of the starting hands they play, while paying little, if any attention to position. This tends to inspire even looser play & blaming rigged sites for their lack of success. I shoved with A3 soooooooted in early position & some big stack called with a pair of 4's & they held up, BIGGEST BAD BEAT IN THE HISTORY OF POKER. Lack of Knowledge resulting in bad bets, costs new players way more chips than bad beats.
 
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For some reason I have had several bad beats (Both ways) lately.. Full houses losing to four of a kinds, etc.
Losing with a full house to quads is unfortunate but really more a cooler than a bad beat. Looking for reasons to fold full house is going to cost you more than the occasional bad beat.
 
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I agree with the fact that in freerolls very often we see situations when a weaker hand runs over a stronger one. I started to notice that I rarely win 2 hands in a row when I get monster hands (like KK, QQ, JJ, AK, for example). And so yes, very often in tournaments I see conditional A8s run over conditional AJs, 1010s, 99s on the river. I would love to see the overall statistics on % percentage of such moves for all players. But such statistics, unfortunately, do not exist. :rolleyes:
if with 10k playing the tournament anything can happen
 
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We always notice when we are moved. It's especially frustrating when this happens on the river and Villain is playing with a trash hand. And as a matter of course we take it when we run over others and even more than that we attribute it to the innate natural intuition. They have spies, and we have scouts.
 
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Do not bet unless you guarantee the profit. It is not logical to do all in when I own One Beer
 
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Do you think that bad bets influence tournaments a lot and more is it the way we play them that causes us to lose more chips? Do new players always set their sights on conspiracies and things like that?
As regards 'bad beats', it's usually closer than you think..even 7,2 os has a 12 % against AA.. just move on.. :)
 
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Do you think that bad bets influence tournaments a lot and more is it the way we play them that causes us to lose more chips? Do new players always set their sights on conspiracies and things like that?

I think Bad Beats and Suck-outs are just part of the game, Accepting that they happen in Poker makes you a better player, It is just the Bad Players who feel cheated and start yelling "Rigged" because they feel cheated and cannot accept that these things happen.
Conspiracies are just another way of blaming everyone else because they think the whole World is against them, when the fact is they themselves are their own worst enemy.
I remember in one game a player was raising too often, and caught me with a pair of 9s in my hand on my BB, I knew instinctively that he was play A/K or similar so called his raise along with another player on the SB, This other player was a bit of a Dark Horse to me but I made Trips on the Flop of 8,9,10 .
SB checked, I checked, and the Aggressive player shoved all-in, now against this one player I would be calling all the way but as the SB called I was concerned they might have spiked a straight, I mentally calculated the pot size and felt calling was my best option as I was getting 5-1 odds and called.
The turn card was a 10 giving me a Full house and the SB checked again, Now because I felt this 10 had not improved the SB hand I was convinced they had made a straight so I shoved all-in for the rest of my chips, They called and my instincts were proved right.
SB had a straight to a Queen, the Aggressor had A/K and my Full house took both pots, Luck? possibly, Bad Beat Certainly to the SBs straight, but the player screaming collusion from me and the SB was the Aggressive player thinking he had been cheated. As we had a Casino Dealer at the table he said there was no way we had colluded against him and the decision was sealed.
Bad Players will always play the Blame Game!
It is always someone else's fault they are Loser's!
 
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Do you think that bad bets influence tournaments a lot and more is it the way we play them that causes us to lose more chips? Do new players always set their sights on conspiracies and things like that?
Luck is unpredictable. There are different situations, but the main thing is our own attitude to failures. Be that as it may, those players who find the courage to continue playing disciplinedly and patiently eventually achieve their goal, achieve success.
 
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Simply necessary once and for all to understand, the Bad Beats are pursuing the All, absolutely! Because "That's Poker, Baby!" And to close this topic!
 
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I have tooo often bad beats ,,cannot explain it :(
 
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Bad beats are part of the game and we have to accept it.
If you really want to avoid bad beats, there is a solution : Don't shove and don't call any all-in !
But it will be tough to win tournaments this way o_O
 
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Bad beats are just one of those things that come with the territory of playing poker. This just happened to me in a pot that would have put me in 3rd place. What can you do apart from fold Aces(which I have done many times when its called for).
 

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I once received an award in the form of a distribution of the badbit jackpot while sitting at the same table where this jackpot was played
 
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First of all, bad beats are needed to interest beginners and get them to deposit more and more money at the tables. Bad beats are what we do for a living.
 
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Do you think that bad bets influence tournaments a lot and more is it the way we play them that causes us to lose more chips? Do new players always set their sights on conspiracies and things like that?
Yes and yes.

There are bad beats and there are coolers. Tournaments are usually won and lost on these, rather than through some slow chip atrophy. That's how poker works.

I don't know about the conspiracies, but real conspiracies do exist such as players multi-accounting or playing in teams to get an advantage over others. I've played enough that I don't consider myself to be new anymore and I definitely still don't blindly trust anything about this game other than that I am going to get screwed over sooner or later.
 
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Another day another beat.
 

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