All in with As ?

[karmakoumas]

Hello ,
when i play tournament no limit holdem, there is always a point where multiple player go all in, 3, 4 or five player, and you have to choose to do the same or not, specially when you have As , king, queen or jack in your hand.
i think that in this condition it would be better to have a king, queen,jack, or 10 than As, because there is more probability of player that goes all in with As in there hand and that decrease your chance of winning.
what's your opinion ?
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[Psyanide14]

If several people ahead of me go all in and they have me covered I’m reluctant to go all in even with AA unless I’m very short. The more players the greater the chance of losing, even with AA. I know it theoretically the right move due to pot odds but if it’s a tournament I’d wait for a better time, again unless I’m short then it’s praying time.

 

[vajavava]

must wait for the right time to do all in..the best choose is fold

 

[rodo 2285]

that's how i play

According to the situation you have, At the beginning of the tournament, in the bubble, for entering the final table
I try to play hands like AA, AK, AQ in an aggressive way when I play with players who pay most hands, because they can put together any project, also when I am about to enter the final table, because at most there are 5 or 6 Players, that means there are not many strong hands.
At first I have no problem folding those hands because losing chips in weak hands is not justified.

 

[Obrudzsahad32]

I go all in mostly with AA but this is not a good idea,because I louse again and again

 

[karmakoumas]

I go all in mostly with AA but this is not a good idea,because I louse again and again

Yes, you have to think about it.
maybe sometimes all in AA is good when there is a little number of player or in cash games.
But in tournament think twice before you do it

 

[Jasbleidy0]

Well, its have the best equality but nothing is sure

 

[WarrenCushing]

If 5 people are already all in and have you covered, you likely will lose. Odds are somebody will hit their card to make a set. Against 1 or maybe 2 players, odds are on your side, you might as well get your money in because it's some of the best odds you will see. If I can afford it I would play them with the whole table in. If I was waiting for the bubble to pop I would only go against 1 or 2 players tops. Sometimes you don't know how many people after you will jump in, but you can get a good idea, if there's a lot of likely jumpers I would just limp and hope to see a flop.

 

[ajtrevor]

I think you have to try and play the table as best as possible but yeah so many times I’ve been beat after going All In preflop with AAs or KKs and someone will hit on the turn or the river. I guess it’s a mix of chip stack, position, aggressive players and stuff like that more that your personal cards.

 

[linaxmama]

it depends on the context of the game, your stack, but if the all in is pre floop there is no point in folding since you are in front of any other hand

 

[xOneCoolHandx]

Consider the following from the pot odds Calculator. Against 1 random hand AA is a huge favorite, but as you add more callers, the chances of winning go down significantly. This is even worse when you are playing Ax, Kx, ect. At that point you are just playing "bingo" poker. Poker is (or should be) a game of skill. If you are a skilled player then you do not want to get it all in when the odds are not in your favor. Wait for better spots that provide more profitable opportunities.

 

[karmakoumas]

Consider the following from the Pot Odds Calculator. Against 1 random hand AA is a huge favorite, but as you add more callers, the chances of winning go down significantly. This is even worse when you are playing Ax, Kx, ect. At that point you are just playing "bingo" poker. Poker is (or should be) a game of skill. If you are a skilled player then you do not want to get it all in when the odds are not in your favor. Wait for better spots that provide more profitable opportunities.

Thank you it resume what i'm talking about.
i would like to ask a question about being a league member.
how can i join a cardschat league ?

 

[neptun1914]

I will go all in preflop with AA every time except if i am very close to the bubble and putting my tournament life on risk unnecessary. With other hands (even KK or QQ) it depends on the situation (type of players against you) if a multi way pot is developing.

 

[tatalarata]

Not calling with AA preflop, no matter if everyone in the table has shoved, is a mathematical mistake. Sure, there might be some ICM very specific scenarios where you might have to fold, but as a general rule AA is just gold.

 

[Sergei 9417]

Hello! Everyone has their own game strategy. If more than 3 players go All-in and my stack is small, I’m smaller than A, K or KK, I won’t enter the game.

 

[xOneCoolHandx]

Thank you it resume what i'm talking about.
i would like to ask a question about being a league member.
how can i join a cardschat league ?

We are in week 2 of CC League right now. It runs for 11 weeks and then we start a new season. This is done by watching this thread: https://www.cardschat.com/forum/cardschat-league-43/ and when you see a sign up for the Summer League, going in and getting on the list. You want to do it as early as possible because we only have a certain number of Captains (I am a Captain and to be eligible, you have to have played at least 1 season) and there are only 5 members of each team (including the Captain). So, this season we have 28 teams which only left 112 spots for players. You are added to the list in the order of signing up in the thread, that is why signing up early is very important.

If you have any other questions, feel free to write me back or DM me.

 

[karmakoumas]

We are in week 2 of CC League right now. It runs for 11 weeks and then we start a new season. This is done by watching this thread: https://www.cardschat.com/forum/cardschat-league-43/ and when you see a sign up for the Summer League, going in and getting on the list. You want to do it as early as possible because we only have a certain number of Captains (I am a Captain and to be eligible, you have to have played at least 1 season) and there are only 5 members of each team (including the Captain). So, this season we have 28 teams which only left 112 spots for players. You are added to the list in the order of signing up in the thread, that is why signing up early is very important.

If you have any other questions, feel free to write me back or DM me.

thank you for the response.
if i understand well the inscription in the summer league this season is closed and i have to wait for the nest season.
is there other league where i can participate. if you know and can tell me it would be nice .
thank you.

 

[19aleks57]

I think that if you are in the money, then giving up AA is a sin.

 

[karmakoumas]

I think that if you are in the money, then giving up AA is a sin.

I don't thnik so
playins always withh AA is a sin.

 

[Scottish77]

its very hard to fold AA pre flop ..i cant say i have ever folded AA pre flop and i have been playing poker for almost 15 years ..sure it will lose sometimes but its an all-in from me everytime without thought

 

[LSTBrand]

AK

I am in the same way, sometimes it's better to have a Queen than an As...

It's hard to call the all in's with AK cause i lost lot of money with thies shit...

 

[LSTBrand]

AA

its very hard to fold AA pre flop ..i cant say i have ever folded AA pre flop and i have been playing poker for almost 15 years ..sure it will lose sometimes but its an all-in from me everytime without thought

Is an All in hand

 

[johnjohn87]

Hello ,
when i play tournament no limit holdem, there is always a point where multiple player go all in, 3, 4 or five player, and you have to choose to do the same or not, specially when you have As , king, queen or jack in your hand.
i think that in this condition it would be better to have a king, queen,jack, or 10 than As, because there is more probability of player that goes all in with As in there hand and that decrease your chance of winning.
what's your opinion ?
:icon_salu

If there are 9 players at a table and every single one is all in, aces have a 33% chance of winning i believe. so if you're one of the other with j,10 then your odds are signifcantly less than that. 4 of you with j,10. k, q 9,8 6,7. would share roughly 16% chance of winning each. So give me aces always.

 

[kubistok]

If 5 people are already all in and have you covered, you likely will lose. Odds are somebody will hit their card to make a set. Against 1 or maybe 2 players, odds are on your side, you might as well get your money in because it's some of the best odds you will see. If I can afford it I would play them with the whole table in. If I was waiting for the bubble to pop I would only go against 1 or 2 players tops. Sometimes you don't know how many people after you will jump in, but you can get a good idea, if there's a lot of likely jumpers I would just limp and hope to see a flop.

You're right. Odds against 5 x all in are allways very low.

 

[karmakoumas]

You're right. Odds against 5 x all in are allways very low.

Yes, when 4 or more player are all in i think that the result will not be the one odds expect.
And that's why i think you can fold on pre-flop even with AA