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It all depends on the opponents, if aggressive then limp if not then 2.3-3bb.In poker there are no unique solutions
 
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It depends on the other players at your table If you are facing aggressive players behind you, you can try to call and then come over the top to isolate players when someone raises.
 
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It depends on the other players at your table If you are facing aggressive players behind you, you can try to call and then come over the top to isolate players when someone raises.

+1 exactly.

A raise isn't always needed with AA UTG. In this instance I limped and called a raise.

PokerStars - 250/500 Ante 50 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 11,636 (VPIP: 14.00, PFR: 10.20, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, hands: 51)
SB: 27,710 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
BB: 30,009 (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 10)
Hero (UTG): 7,268
UTG+1: 4,675 (VPIP: 7.69, PFR: 4.35, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 26)
MP: 31,806 (VPIP: 31.82, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
MP+1: 515 (VPIP: 10.34, PFR: 6.98, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 87)
CO: 48,275 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 3)

8 players post ante of 50, SB posts SB 250, BB posts BB 500

Pre Flop: (pot: 1,150) Hero has A:club: A:spade:

Hero calls 500, UTG+1 raises to 4,625 and is all-in, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 4,125

Flop: (10,400, 2 players) 6:heart: 5:spade: J:diamond:

Turn: (10,400, 2 players) 3:spade:

River: (10,400, 2 players) 8:spade:

Hero shows A:club: A:spade: (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 80%, Flop 87%, Turn 86%)
UTG+1 shows 7:heart: 7:diamond: (One Pair, Sevens)
(Pre 20%, Flop 13%, Turn 14%)
Hero wins 10,400

Another where I just limped knowing someone was going to raise it.

PokerStars - 1250/2500 Ante 250 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 57,265 (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 6.67, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 15)
MP: 83,766 (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
MP+1: 310 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 26)
MP+2: 13,930 (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 3.45, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 33)
CO: 6,379 (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 6.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 33)
BTN: 20,645 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 33)
SB: 70,750 (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
BB: 65,309 (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 3.33, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 33)
Hero (UTG): 34,420

9 players post ante of 250, SB posts SB 1,250, BB posts BB 2,500

Pre Flop: (pot: 6,000) Hero has K:diamond: K:club:

Hero calls 2,500, fold, fold, fold, fold, CO raises to 6,129 and is all-in, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 3,629

Flop: (18,258, 2 players) A:diamond: J:spade: T:spade:

Turn: (18,258, 2 players) 5:club:

River: (18,258, 2 players) J:heart:

Hero shows K:diamond: K:club: (Two Pair, Kings and Jacks)
(Pre 80%, Flop 88%, Turn 95%)
CO shows 6:spade: 6:diamond: (Two Pair, Jacks and Sixes)
(Pre 20%, Flop 12%, Turn 5%)
Hero wins 18,258

And limping in the SB.

PokerStars - 600/1200 Ante 125 NL - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 10,375 (VPIP: 17.81, PFR: 4.29, 3Bet Preflop: 4.00, Hands: 73)
CO: 32,195 (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 8.51, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 48)
BTN: 15,991 (VPIP: 12.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 50)
Hero (SB): 40,846
BB: 14,811 (VPIP: 34.00, PFR: 12.24, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 51)
UTG: 63,335 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 9.52, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 22)

6 players post ante of 125, Hero posts SB 600, BB posts BB 1,200

Pre Flop: (pot: 2,550) Hero has A:spade: A:heart:

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 600, BB raises to 14,686 and is all-in, Hero calls 13,486

Flop: (30,122, 2 players) 3:heart: 7:club: 5:club:

Turn: (30,122, 2 players) K:spade:

River: (30,122, 2 players) A:club:

Hero shows A:spade: A:heart: (Three of a Kind, Aces)
(Pre 81%, Flop 86%, Turn 95%)
BB shows J:heart: J:club: (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 19%, Flop 14%, Turn 5%)
Hero wins 30,122

Yes, I could of been beaten if villains had got their set, but thinking like that is being results orientated, which we don't want to be!! Even raising every time you have AA can lose some of the time, as it is poker and any hand can actually win. Mixing up your play will confuse your player and that's what we like to do.
 
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I think standard big raise is enough..and if someone after you have big hands like AK , KK ,QQ , JJ you will probably will play this hand 1vs1
 
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I agree with EvertonGirl that it's important to mix up your play. If you always raise 3BB when you have AA it is too predictable. If you always raise with big hands and call with so so hands people can read that like a book. Call occasionally with AA and people will be less likely to raise you off your so so hands - you'll get more respect for those.
 
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I will bet, but do not raise, that would collect a larger bank
 
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always raise 4-5bb at least if you are short stacked all in alll the time
 
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+1 exactly.

A raise isn't always needed with AA UTG. In this instance I limped and called a raise.

PokerStars - 250/500 Ante 50 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 11,636 (VPIP: 14.00, PFR: 10.20, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 51)
SB: 27,710 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
BB: 30,009 (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 10)
Hero (UTG): 7,268
UTG+1: 4,675 (VPIP: 7.69, PFR: 4.35, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 26)
MP: 31,806 (VPIP: 31.82, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
MP+1: 515 (VPIP: 10.34, PFR: 6.98, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 87)
CO: 48,275 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 3)

8 players post ante of 50, SB posts SB 250, BB posts BB 500

Pre Flop: (pot: 1,150) Hero has A<font color='black'>♣</font> A<font color='black'>♠</font>

Hero calls 500, UTG+1 raises to 4,625 and is all-in, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 4,125

Flop: (10,400, 2 players) 6<font color='red'>♥</font> 5<font color='black'>♠</font> J<font color='red'>♦</font>

Turn: (10,400, 2 players) 3<font color='black'>♠</font>

River: (10,400, 2 players) 8<font color='black'>♠</font>

Hero shows A<font color='black'>♣</font> A<font color='black'>♠</font> (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 80%, Flop 87%, Turn 86%)
UTG+1 shows 7<font color='red'>♥</font> 7<font color='red'>♦</font> (One Pair, Sevens)
(Pre 20%, Flop 13%, Turn 14%)
Hero wins 10,400

Another where I just limped knowing someone was going to raise it.

PokerStars - 1250/2500 Ante 250 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 57,265 (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 6.67, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 15)
MP: 83,766 (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
MP+1: 310 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 26)
MP+2: 13,930 (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 3.45, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 33)
CO: 6,379 (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 6.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 33)
BTN: 20,645 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 33)
SB: 70,750 (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
BB: 65,309 (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 3.33, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 33)
Hero (UTG): 34,420

9 players post ante of 250, SB posts SB 1,250, BB posts BB 2,500

Pre Flop: (pot: 6,000) Hero has K<font color='red'>♦</font> K<font color='black'>♣</font>

Hero calls 2,500, fold, fold, fold, fold, CO raises to 6,129 and is all-in, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 3,629

Flop: (18,258, 2 players) A<font color='red'>♦</font> J<font color='black'>♠</font> T<font color='black'>♠</font>

Turn: (18,258, 2 players) 5<font color='black'>♣</font>

River: (18,258, 2 players) J<font color='red'>♥</font>

Hero shows K<font color='red'>♦</font> K<font color='black'>♣</font> (Two Pair, Kings and Jacks)
(Pre 80%, Flop 88%, Turn 95%)
CO shows 6<font color='black'>♠</font> 6<font color='red'>♦</font> (Two Pair, Jacks and Sixes)
(Pre 20%, Flop 12%, Turn 5%)
Hero wins 18,258

And limping in the SB.

PokerStars - 600/1200 Ante 125 NL - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 10,375 (VPIP: 17.81, PFR: 4.29, 3Bet Preflop: 4.00, Hands: 73)
CO: 32,195 (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 8.51, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 48)
BTN: 15,991 (VPIP: 12.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 50)
Hero (SB): 40,846
BB: 14,811 (VPIP: 34.00, PFR: 12.24, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 51)
UTG: 63,335 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 9.52, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 22)

6 players post ante of 125, Hero posts SB 600, BB posts BB 1,200

Pre Flop: (pot: 2,550) Hero has A<font color='black'>♠</font> A<font color='red'>♥</font>

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 600, BB raises to 14,686 and is all-in, Hero calls 13,486

Flop: (30,122, 2 players) 3<font color='red'>♥</font> 7<font color='black'>♣</font> 5<font color='black'>♣</font>

Turn: (30,122, 2 players) K<font color='black'>♠</font>

River: (30,122, 2 players) A<font color='black'>♣</font>

Hero shows A<font color='black'>♠</font> A<font color='red'>♥</font> (Three of a Kind, Aces)
(Pre 81%, Flop 86%, Turn 95%)
BB shows J<font color='red'>♥</font> J<font color='black'>♣</font> (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 19%, Flop 14%, Turn 5%)
Hero wins 30,122

Yes, I could of been beaten if villains had got their set, but thinking like that is being results orientated, which we don't want to be!! Even raising every time you have AA can lose some of the time, as it is poker and any hand can actually win. Mixing up your play will confuse your player and that's what we like to do.

Limping with AA and shoving vs 1 opponnent, nice play, I have to agree with this. I bet villains didnt expect you having AA. But I want to ask you, what is the max amount of allin players you will still caĺl with limp AA?
 
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Limping with AA and shoving vs 1 opponnent, nice play, I have to agree with this. I bet villains didnt expect you having AA. But I want to ask you, what is the max amount of allin players you will still caĺl with limp AA?

Limping AA can be tricky and can bite you on the ass some of the time. It is best to only bring this move into play when you have 10-30 bbs and it is also best you use it when you believe that only 1 or 2 players are likely to raise when you limp. If for example in my first hand where the UTG+1 shoves his remaining stack, there were a few loose players. I don't think I could even think about folding AA even if 2 of those big stacks had called the shove, I would just of shoved and prayed :D
 
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Another one I did today, my heart was in my mouth tho :D

PokerStars - 1000/2000 Ante 200 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 6.03 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
MP+1: 8.95 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
MP+2: 15.39 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
CO: 35.14 BB (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
BTN: 3.96 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
SB: 11.66 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
BB: 16.77 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
Hero (UTG): 14.63 BB
UTG+1: 35.57 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)

9 players post ante of 0.1 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.4 BB) Hero has K:diamond: K:club:

Hero calls 1 BB, fold, MP calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 3.86 BB and is all-in, SB raises to 11.56 BB and is all-in, fold, Hero raises to 14.53 BB and is all-in, MP calls 4.93 BB and is all-in

Flop: (34.81 BB, 4 players) 2:diamond: A:diamond: 3:heart:

Turn: (34.81 BB, 4 players) K:spade:

River: (34.81 BB, 4 players) 8:diamond:

SB shows Q:heart: A:spade: (One Pair, Aces)

Main Pot [17.34 BB]: (Pre 22%, Flop 75%, Turn 0%)
Side Pot#1 [6.22 BB]: (Pre 27%, Flop 84%, Turn 0%)
Side Pot#2 [11.25 BB]: (Pre 32%, Flop 90%, Turn 0%)

Hero shows K:diamond: K:club: (Three of a Kind, Kings)

Main Pot [17.34 BB]: (Pre 47%, Flop 9%, Turn 100%)
Side Pot#1 [6.22 BB]: (Pre 59%, Flop 10%, Turn 100%)
Side Pot#2 [11.25 BB]: (Pre 68%, Flop 10%, Turn 100%)

MP shows K:heart: J:heart: (One Pair, Kings)

Main Pot [17.34 BB]: (Pre 12%, Flop 6%, Turn 0%)
Side Pot#1 [6.22 BB]: (Pre 14%, Flop 7%, Turn 0%)

BTN shows 6:spade: 6:diamond: (One Pair, Sixes)

Main Pot [17.34 BB]: (Pre 19%, Flop 10%, Turn 0%)

Hero wins 34.81 BB
 
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This seem to be so routine that I'm seriously wondering whether I should ever play AA out of position unless I can get it all-in pre-flop. I'm first in with AA. Bet 3X, hoping to get raised (which never seems to happen when I want it to). Of course villain just calls (standard play with small/mid pair).

On the flop I'm crushed, but don't know it yet. Bet 1/2 pot (because I want a call, or at least I think I do, no real concerns about draws). Crusher just calls (standard set play). I bet 1/2 pot again on turn, get min-raised (standard "I've got you crushed" play). All that's left to do is hang around and watch my chips go away. I lose 1/2 my stack. Would have lost all of it if I'd played more aggressively.

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pokerstars - Hold'em Cash Games - $0.01/0.02 Blinds - 6 Players
Hand Converter by Pokerhand.org

SharkyOTH (BTN): $2.05
Anton Sle (SB): $2.38
KrisAlex7 (BB): $2
Tito644 (UTG): $4.04
MattRyder (UTG+1): $1.74
thewalcott (CO): $2.68

Pre-flop: Dealt to MattRyder A A
(1 folds), MattRyder raises to $.06, thewalcott calls $.06, (3 folds)

Flop: ($.15) 5 Q 7 (2 Players)
MattRyder bets $.07, thewalcott calls $.07

Turn: ($.29) 4 (2 Players)
MattRyder bets $.14, thewalcott raises to $.34, MattRyder calls $.20

River: ($.97) 5 (2 Players)
MattRyder checks, thewalcott bets $.44, MattRyder calls $.44
thewalcott Showed 7 7
MattRyder Mucks A A
thewalcott wins $1.79 with a full house, Sevens full of Fives

http://www.pokerhand.org/?6843124

Sorry btw, I noticed after I posted this that it is a tournament thread.
 
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It depends of the type of tournamet, wheter it is a freeroll or if it is paid.If it is a freeroll you must play hard, because there are many players who pay with everything.
If it is a paid tournament you can do 3bet or 4bet.
 
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obviously come in for a raise, but once the flop comes...

TWO WORDS: Pot Control! you only have a pair if you dont hit trips, your chance of improving is Nil (20+ to 1) each street. So keep the pot small, if the villan wants it big, he probably has you beat, you only have a pair.
 
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there was a time in poker when AA in the position of utg limp, but now it's in the past! a standard raise depending on the size of the blinds!
 
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less than 10 bb is all in, more is 4-5 bets, but I want to note that quite often this hand kills some kind of fish with 57 or similar)
 
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My opinion is a standard raise of a normal size, I believe that all our bets should be of the same size, so as not to give out the power of the hand
 
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Right at the bubble, all in only with aces. Oops- out of tournament.
 
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In the early stages, I put somewhere in the 5th-6th pitch, later, when the blinds grow up and will be felt on your stack, I put 3 pace and in turn I hope that someone will rearrange me to rearrange it and thereby disperse the bank. Someone read that there are professionals who Even the limp opens, but it's not for me
 
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