Making sophisticated plays against unsophisticated players will surely result in your being busted from the tournament. - Victor H.Royer
guess we found out who wrote the book.
Making sophisticated plays against unsophisticated players will surely result in your being busted from the tournament. - Victor H.Royer
guess we found out who wrote the book.
I'm just struggling to comprehend how flopping two pair, turning a boat and value betting all three streets is a "sophisticated" play...
"It isn't pollution that is hurting the environment, it's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it." - Dan Quayle, former U.S. Vice-President
guess we found out what quiche tastes like
above.It's not, just quoting the previous post.
Neither nit played the hand very well, or, played it perfectly. Ok, not. There a bajillion poker HH like this.
...No, there isn't.
I have no clue who "Victor H.Royer" is, but maybe he has a chapter about folding? Part of poker is not stacking off with 2nd best, when you know you are beat.
...Maybe, but in this situation, not stacking off with 2nd best here is such a bad play. Think about it, reread HH, plug some numbers in, etc. How can you not know who Victor H. Royer is if you're quoting him?
I'd either stack off faster, or find out I'm beat earlier in this hand.
...So, when would you stack off faster here? Preflop? That's pretty dumb. On the flop with 2 pair? Would you be able to find you only have 2nd best by betting the flop and folding 2 pair? Or you might stack off on the flop, too, but that'd be dumb and completely go against what you said in the above post. You'll still be 2nd best. On the turn you make a boat, what is the difference between not stacking with a boat and stacking earlier if you only have 2nd best hand? There is none, but with with a boat you beat out so many more hands opponenent can have/can potentially hit if they're on a draw-but no, you'd rather stack off 'faster' with 2 pair becauses it stronger than a boat.
Yeah...you're logic makes no sense to me. Please explain your reasoning.
I have no clue who "Victor H.Royer" is
That analysis is wrong in so many ways it makes me want to jump off a cliff.
He is a writer on poker and on casino games, both in his own books and as a columnist in the poker press.
Should we gather that you have not studied the works of expert writers ?
You fail on so many levels.raise preflop, 6 handed, is limped pot to YOU! BB special. The ppA is calling, I guess, as they can limp with ppA? Be a flop bunny!
But, that didn't happen. Be a flop bunny! Gotta see them flops!
A8 creams you, and you make a min bet? WTF? do you think the setA does?
Smooth calls.
The river 8 fills you up. AND you make another lame arse bet, and get raised allin? PUT THEM on a hand. Who calls, or raises you here? The fl draw?
I know flop bunnies when I sees them, just don't know what they mean?
...My god, just please stop posting because you make absolutely no sense at all.Of course not, why would I care about "expert writers" when posting about poker? Mark Twain, has written about poker, and probably qualifies as a great, oops "expert writers". Maybe Steven King can chime in? Isn't he an "expert writers" too?
...You quoted a writer. Usually when people do this, they know who they're quoting. Unless you're were just quoting for the sake of quoting to make yourself appear smarter than you really are/you're in-the-know of known poker writers and you quoted them to prove this. But like every other post, you failed at proving anything; heck you probably just googled 'poker quotes' and snagged that from a site without any knowledge of who you were quoting or what you were saying. Good job.
wtf does this have to do with the original post?
...WTF does any of your post have to do with the original post? Oh yeah...absolutely nothing.
The poster played this hand wrong. BB with limper, who is the button with ppA????
...Wrong. OP played this hand fine. You are being biased toward the BB only because you know he had AA. Since you know the results, its easy for you to say that OP played the hand wrong because no matter what the OP does, he loses the hand since we all know what button has. Quit being so one-sided/result oriented with your analysis. What if button had KK? Then I guess OP would've played it perfectly right?
OOP BB wif 2prs makes a min bet? wtf is that? You trapping now?
...Possibly. button showed no strength PF and OP probably didn't think button hit anything. Min bet to look weak to may get button to raise, maybe get a small call if button doesnt have anything, to see where he is at, etc. Ever think about that?
Turn: Fills u up, and you check to trap(guessing?), and they make a weak arse value bet??? wtf, allin here? but, NO, nit, continues the trap and flat calls.
...Villain flat calls flop and bets out on turn? What does it look like he has here? 8x, AA88, maybe A9, draw. Perfect time to trap and get it all in on the river.
River: blank
You make a slightly better value bet, get punted allin, and probably insta call.
...You would not insta-call here? Oh wait, no you wouldn't because you'd know that button had AA in his hand, right? It would be so easy for you to fold a full boat knowing what your opponent had. Yeah...you're so pro.
Obviously, a cold, cold deck, or "your trap worked great"! now u trapped too! You should have some read on the button, perhaps, or not. Considering the way u played this hand.
...What is wrong with the way OP played the hand? OP flopped a big hand, trapped, turned a bigger hand, trapped some more, and then fell into a bigger one. It happens, but OP played it fine.
Villian, oops winner. Has a read on you! I don't happen to subscribe to the limp with a big hand from the button move. But have done it myself, changing gears like...
...really? Did villain really have read? Pretty easy read when you flop a set, turn a boat-don't you think?
AND it worked for them, perfectly. What did they have to do, other call your weak bets, and raise you allin, with the best hand.
...Again, pretty easy when you have the best hand all the way through. Nothing special about this.
Regardless, you played the hand like a nit, suffered no BAD BEAT, wAAAAAY behind every street, and have a hard time folding when you are beat!
...He did not play every hand like a nit, OP never complained about a bad beat (its all you assuming he is) and he did not have a hard time folding because almost no one would fold here in this situation, given the way the hand played out. Except you, right? Becaue you always know what your opponent has.
Sorry, sorry, u don't like folding. Or betting, or reraising, but you are a "flop bunny".
...What are you talking about? OP bet out out, called to trap, overbet and got opponent to shove. Seems like he played the hand fine, just ran into a better one. And WTF is a flop bunny?
raise preflop, 6 handed, is limped pot to YOU! BB special. The ppA is calling, I guess, as they can limp with ppA? Be a flop bunny!
But, that didn't happen. Be a flop bunny! Gotta see them flops!
A8 creams you, and you make a min bet? WTF? do you think the setA does?
Smooth calls.
The river 8 fills you up. AND you make another lame arse bet, and get raised allin? PUT THEM on a hand. Who calls, or raises you here? The fl draw?
I know flop bunnies when I sees them, just don't know what they mean?
You fail on so many levels....
happy landing. remember, it's not the fall that hurts, sudden stop.
but wait!
Of course not, why would I care about "expert writers" when posting about poker? Mark Twain, has written about poker, and probably qualifies as a great, oops "expert writers". Maybe Steven King can chime in? Isn't he an "expert writers" too?
wtf does this have to do with the original post?
The poster played this hand wrong. BB with limper, who is the button with ppA????
Ok, ok, I have small probs with that, 6 handed like, but...Ok.
OOP BB wif 2prs makes a min bet? wtf is that? You trapping now?
Turn: Fills u up, and you check to trap(guessing?), and they make a weak arse value bet??? wtf, allin here? but, NO, nit, continues the trap and flat calls.
River: blank
You make a slightly better value bet, get punted allin, and probably insta call.
Obviously, a cold, cold deck, or "your trap worked great"! now u trapped too! You should have some read on the button, perhaps, or not. Considering the way u played this hand.
Villian, oops winner. Has a read on you! I don't happen to subscribe to the limp with a big hand from the button move. But have done it myself, changing gears like...
AND it worked for them, perfectly. What did they have to do, other call your weak bets, and raise you allin, with the best hand.
Regardless, you played the hand like a nit, suffered no BAD BEAT, wAAAAAY behind every street, and have a hard time folding when you are beat!
Sorry, sorry, u don't like folding. Or betting, or reraising, but you are a "flop bunny".
I'm really curious, what the Button thought about this hand. My 1st ? would be:
"wtf are u doing limping with ppA?" Methinks the answer is:
"Trapping the 'flop bunnies'!"
this is the thread that keeps on giving