Wrong fold?

vincemcnabb

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I'm CantStopTheNutz

full tilt poker Game #7594312009: $100 Freeroll (57650816), Table 11 - 250/500 Ante 50 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:03:15 ET - 2008/08/10
Seat 1: tacojohn61 (36,135)
Seat 2: j-mguimont (60,343)
Seat 4: addi1996 (3,090)
Seat 5: lewdaddy21 (6,463)
Seat 6: yankee4489 (12,880)
Seat 7: graymanq (64,502)
Seat 8: CantStopTheNutz (22,380)
Seat 9: Knot-A-Clew1 (170), is sitting out
tacojohn61 antes 50
j-mguimont antes 50
addi1996 antes 50
lewdaddy21 antes 50
yankee4489 antes 50
graymanq antes 50
CantStopTheNutz antes 50
Knot-A-Clew1 antes 50
tacojohn61 posts the small blind of 250
j-mguimont posts the big blind of 500
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to CantStopTheNutz [Qc Qd]
addi1996 folds
lewdaddy21 folds
yankee4489 folds
graymanq folds
CantStopTheNutz raises to 1,500
Knot-A-Clew1 folds
smiles01 sits down
smiles01 adds 22,610
tacojohn61 calls 1,250
j-mguimont calls 1,000
*** FLOP *** [Jh 8h 7s]
tacojohn61 has 15 seconds left to act
tacojohn61 bets 4,900
j-mguimont calls 4,900
CantStopTheNutz folds
*** TURN *** [Jh 8h 7s] [6h]
tacojohn61 has 15 seconds left to act
tacojohn61 bets 6,000
j-mguimont raises to 53,893, and is all in
tacojohn61 folds
Uncalled bet of 47,893 returned to j-mguimont
j-mguimont mucks
j-mguimont wins the pot (26,700)
The blinds are now 300/600 with an ante of 75
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 26,700 | Rake 0
Board: [Jh 8h 7s 6h]
Seat 1: tacojohn61 (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 2: j-mguimont (big blind) collected (26,700), mucked
Seat 4: addi1996 folded before the Flop
Seat 5: lewdaddy21 folded before the Flop
Seat 6: yankee4489 folded before the Flop
Seat 7: graymanq folded before the Flop
Seat 8: CantStopTheNutz folded on the Flop
Seat 9: Knot-A-Clew1 (button) folded before the Flop

I thought that I was going to get outdrawn on the turn or river, because that flop was pretty draw-heavy, and it looked like the pusher made a flush on the turn. Thoughts?
 
shinedown.45

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Now that is a weak-tight fold(and I thought I was a nit).
Yes it was wrong to fold, sure it is draw heavy but without making a reraise on the flop, you just don't know where you stand.
If you continue to make these kind of laydowns, you will never get far in tournaments.
Unless you are 100% sure you will be outdrawn(teach me this method of soul read), you will be making the wrong laydown a majority of the time.

BTW, looks to me you are playing scared, which I find kinda funny since this question was based on a freeroll.
 
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Okay, I just felt like they were both drawing, and I honestly don't know why I folded this I just had a bad feeling about the hand...in actually meaningful tourneys I think I would've pushed..I just don't know what I was thinking..thanks for the advice
 
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If I am reading this right and doing the math correctly the pot was 15,100 by the time it came to you to act on the Flop, If you had shoved right there you give them both the incorrect odds to draw and maximize your foled equity if they are on draws, that is about all you can do.
 
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in a freeroll in this situation, its the standard

Fist pump, snap shove
 
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Yea, looking at that the fold was pretty weak. :( You need to consider that people generally won't call a 1500 raise with complete rubbish. However that was a freeroll which is full of donkeys and complete beginners. I would of said to raise the bet that went into you big (possibly all in) because that way people will tend not to risk all their chips on a middle pair. At the end of the day if you lose its a bad beat and you try the next freeroll. ;)

RK
 
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