What is your play with KK here?

[skoldpadda]

Large MTT. Blinds are 100/200. My stack is a hair under 7K. Just got moved to this table and won my first hand --this is my second here and I have no history vs. villain. Villain has me covered by a few K.

Dealer: Starting new hand: #9786229037
Dealer: animos1 posts small blind 100
Dealer: adrianasdad1 posts big blind 200
Dealer: Dealing Hole Cards (I have KK)
Dealer: leavem folds
Dealer: Ryan Hand folds
Dealer: TheBlueDuce folds
Dealer: BabyHumvee raises 400 to 600
Dealer: Smokingitall folds
Dealer: aceman800 has reconnected and has 16 seconds left to act
Dealer: aceman800, it's your turn. You have 15 seconds to act
Dealer: aceman800 folds
Dealer: floppy1331 folds
Dealer: animos1 folds
Dealer: adrianasdad1 calls 400
Dealer: Dealing Flop: [9h Td 4s]
Dealer: adrianasdad1 bets 1200
Dealer: BabyHumvee ?

 

[Stefanicov]

There is a str8 draw there but no flush villain makes this with any 10 qj or such i push raising wont do much good really all the chips will go in on the turn whatever if u rse decent amount here.

gotta push imo dont really want big stacks drawing v us when we r pretty sure we ahead

 

[joosebuck]

if hes the type that likes to be aggro oop to test pf raisers (which is how it seems), i dont mind a call & raise on the turn.

 

[skoldpadda]

Just glad he didn't have A4... I like getting all my chips in when I'm pretty sure I'm ahead.

Dealer: Starting new hand: #9786229037
Dealer: animos1 posts small blind 100
Dealer: adrianasdad1 posts big blind 200
Dealer: Dealing Hole Cards
Dealer: leavem folds
Dealer: Ryan Hand folds
Dealer: TheBlueDuce folds
Dealer: BabyHumvee raises 400 to 600
Dealer: Smokingitall folds
Dealer: aceman800 has reconnected and has 16 seconds left to act
Dealer: aceman800, it's your turn. You have 15 seconds to act
Dealer: aceman800 folds
Dealer: floppy1331 folds
Dealer: animos1 folds
Dealer: adrianasdad1 calls 400
Dealer: Dealing Flop: [9h Td 4s]
Dealer: adrianasdad1 bets 1200
Dealer: BabyHumvee raises 5196 to 6396 and is all-in
Dealer: adrianasdad1 calls 5196
Rhino_Zoo22 [observer]: vnh b4 babe
Dealer: Dealing Turn: [4d]
Dealer: Dealing River: [4h]
Dealer: adrianasdad1 has three of a kind, Fours
Dealer: BabyHumvee has a full house, Fours full of Kings
adrianasdad1: nh
Dealer: Game #9786229037: BabyHumvee wins pot (14092) with a full house, Fours full of Kings

Villain had JQ... OESD. Unfortunately for him, I had 2 of his outs and he was drawing dead to an 8 by the river

 

[brutus]

dont like the mini raise preflop it makes it hard to narrow his hand down. he could be possibly be playing anything. id push to avoid the draws and hope he didnt flop a set

 

[skoldpadda]

dont like the mini raise preflop it makes it hard to narrow his hand down. he could be possibly be playing anything. id push to avoid the draws and hope he didnt flop a set

What minraise? I raised 3x BB.

 

[brutus]

he's BB so he's putting 400 more for a 1300 pot. id raise 5-6x BB here

 

[F Paulsson]

he's BB so he's putting 400 more for a 1300 pot. id raise 5-6x BB here

Why?

 

[brutus]

a small part of dorkus' stop mini raising thread......

1) For value, that is to get more money in the pot while we believe we are ahead.
2) To push others out of the pot.
3) For information.

i just dont see 3x bb raise to a larger stack in bb really accomplishing any of those

 

[skoldpadda]

3x BB is not a min-raise... why raise 5-6x BB to potentially scare off a player when I have the 2nd best starting hand and in position?!!

 

[ChuckTs]

3BB is standard, brutus. We get all of the above accomplished. We get decent value, give any potential caller a measely 1.5:1 odds, and get all the info we need.

A 2BB raise may not seem like much difference vs a 3BB raise, but trust me, it is. You're now giving 3.5:1 (good enough to call with anything pretty much), and get zero info and very little value.

If you raise 3BB with your mediocre hands and 5-6BBs with your big pairs, you're making a big mistake by telegraphing the strength of your hand based on the size of your bet.

 

[brutus]

i was thinking more of 5x and yeah that is too much but i myself wouldnt go under 4