What would you do???

[bob_tiger]

ok this is 45 man sit n go on full tilt and here is the hand. What do you do here??? call, fold, push all in?
Full Tilt Poker Game #3405597234: $1 + $0.25 Sit & Go (26039567), Table 1 - 30/60 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:38:55 ET - 2007/08/29
Seat 1: MaHt RoCk (6,995)
Seat 2: jgw555 (3,290)
Seat 3: TommyisPOKER (1,425)
Seat 4: bachan4575 (2,685)
Seat 5: Bigrock50 (3,520)
Seat 6: bob_tiger (1,610)
Seat 7: BR1985 (2,085)
Seat 8: maninamaze (1,995)
Seat 9: Waveland1 (205)
Bigrock50 posts the small blind of 30
bob_tiger posts the big blind of 60
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bob_tiger [8h 9h]
BR1985 calls 60
maninamaze folds
Waveland1 folds
MaHt RoCk folds
jgw555 calls 60
TommyisPOKER folds
bachan4575 calls 60
Bigrock50 folds
bob_tiger checks
*** FLOP *** [Jh 8d 2h]
bob_tiger bets 180
BR1985 calls 180
jgw555 folds
bachan4575 calls 180
*** TURN *** [Jh 8d 2h] [Kd]
bob_tiger checks
BR1985 bets 540
bachan4575 calls 540

 

[OzExorcist]

Erm... I'm pretty sure I'm folding here. Drawing to a flush that isn't the nuts, with only third pair... yep, I think I'm definitely folding. If I could see the river cheaply maybe I would, but not against this action.

 

[jeffred1111]

Why did you bet 3/4 pot against 3 players in an unraised pot holding second pair ? Somebody is bound to have a jack/overcards and you are pretty much screwed if the flush doesn't come on the turn: you are either behind or a very small favourite against four players.

It is early, we are deep, OOP and have a very, very marginal hand (even if we fill, we have a weak flush). No need to make a move. I check/fold flop most of the time unless given semi-correct odds to draw (someone bets 100 at this pot and one player calls, I might peel one off and shut UI on turn).

As played, spewy: we have nothing invested in this pot. If we in position and it was checked, a bet might be good*, but not there.

*And even then, I wouldn't like a bet since our FE is low: this flop has lots of draws and limping preflop from 3 players, somebody has a drawing hand, wether overcards, flush or straight on this board. I take the free card 80% of the time.

 

[hott_estelle]

Fold.

 

[rob5775]

The problem, Bob, is your outs your hoping for might not be outs at all. This should be an easy fold.

 

[alan1983]

your hand is pretty strong on the flop, i think id have check raised allin on flop. Turn is a tough spot now, even considering someone has 2 pairs now, you still reasonably have 11 outs if your flush is good. were only 22% to fill up, depends if you want to go in desperation mode here i guess.

 

[jeffred1111]

your hand is pretty strong on the flop, i think id have check raised allin on flop. Turn is a tough spot now, even considering someone has 2 pairs now, you still reasonably have 11 outs if your flush is good. were only 22% to fill up, depends if you want to go in desperation mode here i guess.

I find c/r allin in this spot pretty much horrible since we are pushing in our whole stack on a draw (wich might not be good) in a spot where we can afford to let this hand go (the pot is medium sized and somebody could've limped QJ, K10 or KJ and we are thus very much racing (since they'll call). We are in the BB, we got to see the flop for cheap, let us see the turn also for cheap and dump this if we don't fill up. I think I'd even dump against some action if a T were to come on the turn since:
a) Somebody has filled and he has our outs
b) We probably won't get the right odds to call
c) We put ourselves in a rough spot later chipwise

In a cash game, I agree that this hand is very strong and a candidate for playing hard, but in a SNG, we only have one shot and better spots are to be had. Risk>rewards in this case.

 

[switch0723]

i agree with the fold option, id say one of them is holding a monster hand maybe a set with the flat calling. If they dont have a monster it probably means they are drawing to a higher flush than you. Also based on the blind size it is still early in the tourny so there is no need to risk just less than half your stack on a draw which may be beaten