Stars - right or wrong move ???MTT $5.00+$0.50 Omaha Hi/Lo PL

Ronaldadio

Ronaldadio

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Hi guys.

I would appreciate it if a few of u guys had a look at this hand.

As you can see it was very early in a tourny. I always make the decision early in these games to push to build up a stack or go bust.

I knew what at least one of the callers if not both of them had after the flop, but I had a gut feeling I would miss all of my outs (I comment on this in the hand history)

Was this a bad call/ push?

PokerStars Game #14616878160: Tournament #73422975, $5.00+$0.50 Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/01/17 - 05:37:17 (ET) Table '73422975 3' 9-max Seat #6 is the button Seat 1: IntrepidGT (1360 in chips) Seat 2: mlj1980 (1500 in chips) Seat 3: KlNG_D0NK (1450 in chips) Seat 4: Ch1uh@n (1450 in chips) is sitting out Seat 5: WiHoldemWi (1100 in chips) Seat 6: nickbowl (1560 in chips) Seat 7: HiLoStud (2100 in chips) Seat 8: ronaldadio (1400 in chips) Seat 9: noyeujoel5 (1480 in chips)
HiLoStud: posts small blind 10
ronaldadio: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ronaldadio [8d Ac As 8s]
noyeujoel5: calls 20
IntrepidGT: calls 20
mlj1980: calls 20
KlNG_D0NK: folds
Ch1uh@n: folds
WiHoldemWi: calls 20
nickbowl: folds
HiLoStud: calls 10
ronaldadio: checks
*** FLOP *** [2s Ah 5s]
HiLoStud: bets 80
ronaldadio: calls 80
noyeujoel5: raises 360 to 440
IntrepidGT: raises 360 to 800
ronaldadio said, "I got a bad feeling here"
mlj1980: folds
WiHoldemWi: folds
ronaldadio said, ":eek:("
HiLoStud: folds
ronaldadio: raises 580 to 1380 and is all-in
noyeujoel5: raises 80 to 1460 and is all-in
IntrepidGT: calls 540 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [2s Ah 5s] [6h]
*** RIVER *** [2s Ah 5s 6h] [Jh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ronaldadio: shows [8d Ac As 8s] (HI: three of a kind, Aces; LO: 8,6,5,2,A)
noyeujoel5: shows [Js 3d 4d Ks] (HI: a straight, Deuce to Six; LO: 5,4,3,2,A)
noyeujoel5 collected 40 from side pot
noyeujoel5 collected 40 from side pot
IntrepidGT: shows [6d 3c 2d 4c] (HI: a straight, Deuce to Six; LO: 5,4,3,2,A)
noyeujoel5 collected 1055 from main pot
IntrepidGT collected 1055 from main pot
noyeujoel5 collected 1055 from main pot
IntrepidGT collected 1055 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4300 Main pot 4220. Side pot 80. | Rake 0 Board [2s Ah 5s 6h Jh] Seat 1: IntrepidGT showed [6d 3c 2d 4c] and won (2110) with HI: a straight, Deuce to Six; LO: 5,4,3,2,A Seat 2: mlj1980 folded on the Flop Seat 3: KlNG_D0NK folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: Ch1uh@n folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: WiHoldemWi folded on the Flop Seat 6: nickbowl (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: HiLoStud (small blind) folded on the Flop Seat 8: ronaldadio (big blind) showed [8d Ac As 8s] and lost with HI: three of a kind, Aces; LO: 8,6,5,2,A Seat 9: noyeujoel5 showed [Js 3d 4d Ks] and won (2190) with HI: a straight, Deuce to Six; LO: 5,4,3,2,A
 
robwhufc

robwhufc

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You couldn't have conceivably thought that at least one of them hasn't got the wheel (or at the very very least hit some sort of low hand) so you know half of the pot has gone. You know you have no fold-equity, so you are betting 1,380 chips to win 700 profit, with a max of 16 outs. Do i need to go on?
 
Ronaldadio

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You couldn't have conceivably thought that at least one of them hasn't got the wheel (or at the very very least hit some sort of low hand) so you know half of the pot has gone. You know you have no fold-equity, so you are betting 1,380 chips to win 700 profit, with a max of 16 outs. Do i need to go on?

1/2 of the pot being the low 1/2?

Yep, I agree
 
robwhufc

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1/2 of the pot being the low 1/2?

Yep, I agree
Well you didn't even have a low, and if you hit a low one of your opponents would almost certainly have a better one. You were getting 1/2 odds for a 4/5 (roughly) shot of hitting a high (with an outside but probably ignorable chance that you already were high).
 
dj11

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quote;
I always make the decision early in these games to push to build up a stack or go bust.
unquote.

You were in a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation, and damn, you did!;)

The flop was the key to your demise. You knew it held peril, yet you made the conscious decision to throw caution to the wind, and reaped the just rewards.

Had the flop been uncoordinated or even half an hour later, your betting would have been fine, but you ignored your bad gut feeling. Half an hour into a PLO Hi.Lo the contestants have calmed down, and you would have known up front whether or not opponents held wheels. But then you know this right, and you're just posting for a spanking?:eek::D
 
Effexor

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I'm not all that experienced with O8, but as soon as I got to the flop where there was a bet, raise, then reraise, I actually said to myself outloud "at least one person has 3,4". Basically you were drawing to win half the pot. I'd have folded.
 
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i have to agree, after all that raising, you have to assume someone has the wheel. Also why didnt you raise the initial bet on the flop? i dont understand why you just flat called there, you never slow play in omaha on a board like that. It didnt matter this time since you were already beat, but you should have raised.
 
Ronaldadio

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But then you know this right, and you're just posting for a spanking?:eek::D
Yep, that is about the size of it. I just wanted to be told I was an idiot :)
 
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