Omaha Hand -- Stupid play i think.

[KMC1828]

full tilt poker Game #3555403409: Double Stack $5 + $0.50 (27077230), Table 17 - 20/40 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 22:58:22 ET - 2007/09/13
Seat 1: gian-poker-luca (6,245)
Seat 2: mow grass (2,840)
Seat 3: zoezoo (2,810)
Seat 4: Stunever (4,290)
Seat 5: Thewineguy (2,690)
Seat 6: Break17 (2,910)
Seat 7: Ricky925 (2,135)
Seat 8: zaxxo (2,825)
Seat 9: grinditout31 (3,240)
grinditout31 posts the small blind of 20
gian-poker-luca posts the big blind of 40
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Break17 [6h 6c 7d Th]
mow grass calls 40
zoezoo calls 40
Stunever has 15 seconds left to act
Stunever calls 40
Thewineguy calls 40
Break17 folds
Ricky925 calls 40
zaxxo folds
grinditout31 raises to 320
gian-poker-luca calls 280
mow grass folds
zoezoo folds
Stunever has 15 seconds left to act
Stunever folds
Thewineguy calls 280
Ricky925 calls 280
*** FLOP *** [4s As 3s]
grinditout31 checks
gian-poker-luca checks
Thewineguy bets 1,400
Ricky925 folds
grinditout31 calls 1,400
gian-poker-luca folds
*** TURN *** [4s As 3s] [5d]
grinditout31 checks
Thewineguy bets 970, and is all in
grinditout31 calls 970
Thewineguy shows [Kd Ts 5s Td]
grinditout31 shows [Ac Qc Ah 8d]
*** RIVER *** [4s As 3s 5d] [Kc]
Thewineguy shows a flush, Ace high
grinditout31 shows three of a kind, Aces
Thewineguy wins the pot (6,140) with a flush, Ace high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6,140 | Rake 0
Board: [4s As 3s 5d Kc]
Seat 1: gian-poker-luca (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: mow grass folded before the Flop
Seat 3: zoezoo folded before the Flop
Seat 4: Stunever folded before the Flop
Seat 5: Thewineguy showed [Kd Ts 5s Td] and won (6,140) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 6: Break17 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: Ricky925 folded on the Flop
Seat 8: zaxxo (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: grinditout31 (small blind) showed [Ac Qc Ah 8d] and lost with three of a kind, Aces



Grinditout31 tried to defend this play by saying that that guy was a donk for calling his preflop raise with that "crap" hand. I laughed at him and told him that he called a 1400 bet with a flush and straight possible board with trips. then of course he called the 900+ all in with even more of a straight possibility.

 

[Alon Ipser]

Just out of curiosity, what are the odds of the board pairing up after the flop turning the set into a fullhouse?

 

[blankoblanco]

i believe the chance to full house or quad up by the river is about 37% (although seeing all the hole cards, it was actually higher, probably about 40+%, since there were no other 3s or 4s to be found)

 

[Alon Ipser]

Thanks combuboom. I didn't have that on my chart because the outs increase with the extra card on the turn. So as far as the post goes grinditout31 didn't have the pot odds or assumed odds for the 1400 but did to call the 900.

 

[Dashir]

If you have a pair in your hand, matching one on the board, you have seven outs on the turn, ten outs for the river - combined 2-1 against. If the board has paired matching one in your hand, you have 10 outs on both the turn and river, for a combined 3-2 against. (These includes the quads or full house).