Nut flush draw

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grunta0

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NLHE MTT tournament.


deedeknows is at seat 0 with 3200.
Hero is at seat 1 with 5720.
Villain is at seat 3 with 3685.
luxor1 is at seat 4 with 945.
bobbowls is at seat 5 with 1475.
mrsjd01 is at seat 7 with 1205.
rollingwreck is at seat 8 with 1830.
jim4jo1 is at seat 9 with 2075.
The button is at seat 1.

Villain posts the small blind of 15.
luxor1 posts the big blind of 30.


Pre-flop:

bobbowls has disconnected, is dropped.
bobbowls folds. mrsjd01 calls. rollingwreck calls.
jim4jo1 calls. deedeknows folds. Hero (A
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K
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) raises to
95. Villain calls. luxor1 calls. mrsjd01 calls.
rollingwreck calls. jim4jo1 calls.

Pot 570

Flop (board: 8
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Q
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K
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):

Villain checks. luxor1 checks. mrsjd01 checks.
rollingwreck checks. jim4jo1 checks. Hero bets
325. Villain raises to 1545. luxor1 folds.
mrsjd01 goes all-in for 1110. rollingwreck folds.
jim4jo1 folds. Hero ??

No read on the villain as he has just come to the table.

What is the correct play here ?
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NineLions

NineLions

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I would have raised more preflop. You've got 3 limpers in ahead of you; 3 standard raise + 3 limpers = 180, especially with AK where you don't want many postflop.

On the flop, you've got TPTK with the Ace of the flush suit. You've got so many people seeing the flop there's a good chance one has a made flush and was waiting for someone else to lead (which is a bad play, I think). At this point I push and hope another diamond shows, or that the other players are freerollers betting with QT/KJ or something.
 
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joeeagles

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Like NL said, raise more PF when 3 limpers are in to reduce the field.

With no reads tough spot here, if you shove he will likely call this because of pot size, and you can't get rid of 3rd player because he's all-in. When counting your outs here, if someone has a flush made you are down to 7 outs. With 2 players in you have to consider 1 of them having the flush as a strong possibility.

This is another one of those hands where you need to think ahead. It's very likely that if you smooth call villain will shove on the turn and you will have to call his (2000) bet. You are getting about 3 to 1 to call this now which are good odds but in reality not enough for the flush even if you do have 9 outs, which you might not. Another thing to consider is that it's not ideal to be drawing (if indeed you are) in tourneys for such a high % of your stack, odds or not.

I think I just fold here, keep a nice stack and move on. It may be weak/tight but that's what I would do.
 
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Styrofoam

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I disagree. I call here. You have TPTK and the nut flush draw... I think you're good if you catch your ace as well. I think you ran into a dominated hand catching up with KQ...... but i really REALLY think you might be good... its a tough one, but I think i call here.
 
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grunta0

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Yes I thought the preflop raise was a bit weak.

I actually never considered folding. I was trying to calculate my odds against a set and the flush.

Hero goes all-in for 5625.
Villain goes all-in for 3590.
Hero is returned 2035 (uncalled).

Tournament all-in showdown -- players show:
Hero shows K A.
Villain shows 9 7
mrsjd01 shows Q Jd .

Turn (board: 8 Q K 3 ):
(no action in this round)

River (board: 8 Q K 3 3 ):
(no action in this round)


Showdown:
Hero has K A K 3 3 : two pair, kings and threes.
Villain has 9 7 8 Q K : flush, king high.
mrsjd01 has Q Q K 3 3 : two pair, queens and threes.

Thanks for the replies.
 
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