$ NL HE MTT: Did I play this hand well?

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Hello friends, how do you think I played this hand? Taking into account that there were a couple of players with short stacks, maybe I should have played differently, what do you think?

 
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Hi ammje

I think you played the hand as well as most. Personally, I like to see a flop with AK or AQ unless I'm <15BB. All-in preflop has not been kind to me so I avoid it when I can. Even then it's not foolproof. I've seen too many runner-runner suck-outs (read as I've suffered at the hands of too many runner-runner suck-outs).
 
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Unlucky hand Juan, although you had over cards to his jacks.

I will tell how I would've played it, and that would be my opinion to the play and hand:
You have a stack around 20bbs, I wouldn't consider any open shove with any hand especially if you are deep in the tournmanet.
From your position it's better to open raise rather than shoving especially that the early position player limped. And I would've also 3-bet any open raise.

So, from that position (many players are still in play after you), any early limp or open, and depending on your situation in the whole tournament (which seems to be in a deep phase) especially if near bubble, better to see flop.

Goodluck in your tournaments!
 
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You started the hand with less than 20BB, and the original raiser was even shorter. In that situation there is not enough room to make a non all-in 3-bet, and therefore you should have jammed. With your sizing you put in more than 1/3 of your stack, which mean, you are committed to the pot and can never fold either preflop or postflop. The problem with this is, that it screams strenght, and you can never have a bluff.

If the other players are paying attention, they will think: "Hey wait a minute, why does he not jam, when he is so short? He must really want action." And then they might exploit you by folding hands like AQ or AJ, which you want to get action from. Here it did not matter, because someone had JJ, an this is a completely standard and unavoidable spot for both you and the opponent. Most tournaments end like this, so the only thing to learn from this hand is preflop sizing.
 
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I agree with fundiver199, with less than 20bb and the small open raise before (2bb), then you should to 3bet-push there, because if your bet is biggest than 1/3 of your stack then you have to push, you are committed with the pot and if you fold there against 4bet for example, fold there will left to you very short stack.
This is a important rule to know and remmember: when we gonna 3 bet more than 1/3 of our stack, then it is directly push.
Anyway you had not luck against jacks there Juan. Greetings! :)
 
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Hello friends, how do you think I played this hand? Taking into account that there were a couple of players with short stacks, maybe I should have played differently, what do you think?

Replaying hand one step at a time no results seen yet

Preflop with stack sizes at 20bb or less eff we can shove this hand vs 3 betting- we want a little more post flop equity for our 3 bets AKs AQs as we have to call shoves or we get flat called-

The rest is nothing to think about---Shoving does not change the outcome by the way JJ just reshoves- it is other holdings that we get to fold to the shove that is +EV in this spot
 
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Unlucky hand Juan, although you had over cards to his jacks.

I will tell how I would've played it, and that would be my opinion to the play and hand:
You have a stack around 20bbs, I wouldn't consider any open shove with any hand especially if you are deep in the tournmanet.
From your position it's better to open raise rather than shoving especially that the early position player limped. And I would've also 3-bet any open raise.

So, from that position (many players are still in play after you), any early limp or open, and depending on your situation in the whole tournament (which seems to be in a deep phase) especially if near bubble, better to see flop.

Goodluck in your tournaments!
Hi Jay, yes you're right, I forgot to mention that it was the final table of the CC freeroll.
 
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Hi ammje

I think you played the hand as well as most. Personally, I like to see a flop with AK or AQ unless I'm <15BB. All-in preflop has not been kind to me so I avoid it when I can. Even then it's not foolproof. I've seen too many runner-runner suck-outs (read as I've suffered at the hands of too many runner-runner suck-outs).
You started the hand with less than 20BB, and the original raiser was even shorter. In that situation there is not enough room to make a non all-in 3-bet, and therefore you should have jammed. With your sizing you put in more than 1/3 of your stack, which mean, you are committed to the pot and can never fold either preflop or postflop. The problem with this is, that it screams strenght, and you can never have a bluff.

If the other players are paying attention, they will think: "Hey wait a minute, why does he not jam, when he is so short? He must really want action." And then they might exploit you by folding hands like AQ or AJ, which you want to get action from. Here it did not matter, because someone had JJ, an this is a completely standard and unavoidable spot for both you and the opponent. Most tournaments end like this, so the only thing to learn from this hand is preflop sizing.
Replaying hand one step at a time no results seen yet

Preflop with stack sizes at 20bb or less eff we can shove this hand vs 3 betting- we want a little more post flop equity for our 3 bets AKs AQs as we have to call shoves or we get flat called-

The rest is nothing to think about---Shoving does not change the outcome by the way JJ just reshoves- it is other holdings that we get to fold to the shove that is +EV in this spot
Thank you for your comments, they are very accurate. I will take them into account. :)
I forgot to mention that it was the final table of the CC freeroll.
 
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I agree with fundiver199, with less than 20bb and the small open raise before (2bb), then you should to 3bet-push there, because if your bet is biggest than 1/3 of your stack then you have to push, you are committed with the pot and if you fold there against 4bet for example, fold there will left to you very short stack.
This is a important rule to know and remmember: when we gonna 3 bet more than 1/3 of our stack, then it is directly push.
Anyway you had not luck against jacks there Juan. Greetings! :)
Hi Tefy, yes you're right, next time I won't forget your advice, thank you. ;)
I forgot to mention that it was the final table of the CC freeroll.
 
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fundiver's response is good imo.
Also, keep in mind that generally CC freeroll players allow their stacks to get way too short in later stages. TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS FACT!
 
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